List Mgmt. List structure 2021 - how many spots do we have? (2 rookie spots available)

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If we did that, you know what would have happened.

"Grundy and Cameron have had an unfortunate incident in training, and will be out for 6-8 weeks."

Always need a few extra rucks.

We have about six though including Cox Roughead and Moore. With limited lists, specialist rucks are a luxury.

Cameron and Lynch need to add some other weapons to their artillery otherwise they will just be waiting for injuries to occur.

So just throwing the Lynch to defence thought out there.

 

[Jen2310]

We have about six though including Cox Roughead and Moore. With limited lists, specialist rucks are a luxury.

Cameron and Lynch need to add some other weapons to their artillery otherwise they will just be waiting for injuries to occur.

So just throwing the Lynch to defence thought out there.

With someone of his size.. I wouldn't limit him to ruck. Could try him in defence.

 

[sr36]

With someone of his size.. I wouldn't limit him to ruck. Could try him in defence.

Is he sharp enough in his movements and reactions - a lot of rucks - even the mobile ones, don't defend very well - eg. Grundy.

 

[manicpie]

We have about six though including Cox Roughead and Moore. With limited lists, specialist rucks are a luxury.

Cameron and Lynch need to add some other weapons to their artillery otherwise they will just be waiting for injuries to occur.

So just throwing the Lynch to defence thought out there.

Didn't Lynch get delisted

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Didn't Lynch get delisted

I dont believe so. I'm respnding to a comment that hes been retained.

Are you trying to make a point?

 

[Harry O]

Interesting Hine saying that the Pies might only use 5 picks tonight and save one for the pre season supplemental or mid season draft opportunities. Probably makes sense for those top age Vic kids who will inevitably slip through the net. Although I think you can use vacant rookie list spots in the mid season draft as well?

 

[whiskeytown]

Didn't Lynch get delisted

Unless he is to become a competent full back... then Lynch will likely be delisted 12 months from now. A bung investment.

No point putting (by then) 5 years into these project players for them to still not make the grade. The Ben Hudson

Ben Hudson

Age

45

Ht

199cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

17.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

6.4

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

3.8

3star

HO

9.8

5star

type veteran ruck on the rookie list is the way to go for ruck depth.

Same can be said of depth full backs in my opinion. No point investing years into a 18 year old kid who eventually won’t make the grade as a full back... when plenty of veteran full backs that can be rookied

They hung onto him one year too long, but Dunn is the perfect example of that

 

[partypie]

Interesting Hine saying that the Pies might only use 5 picks tonight and save one for the pre season supplemental or mid season draft opportunities. Probably makes sense for those top age Vic kids who will inevitably slip through the net. Although I think you can use vacant rookie list spots in the mid season draft as well?

We can't do that unless something has changed, as the pre-season supplemental and mid season drafts only allow players to be added as rookies. We also still have two Cat A rookie spots left if we want to invite one or two kids over to train so that we can get a better look at them before making a decision.

We need to add 6 more players to the senior list and there's really no benefit in us promoting Keane or Noble early (as we might need one or both promotions to fill our 3 player quota at the ND next year), although it wouldn't surprise me if that's what Hine is thinking because keeping an open mind / keeping your options open has never really been his strong suit.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Are there any more DFA windows?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Unless he is to become a competent full back... then Lynch will likely be delisted 12 months from now. A bung investment.

No point putting (by then) 5 years into these project players for them to still not make the grade. The Ben Hudson

Ben Hudson

Age

45

Ht

199cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

17.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

6.4

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

3.8

3star

HO

9.8

5star

type veteran ruck on the rookie list is the way to go for ruck depth.

Same can be said of depth full backs in my opinion. No point investing years into a 18 year old kid who eventually won’t make the grade as a full back... when plenty of veteran full backs that can be rookied

They hung onto him one year too long, but Dunn is the perfect example of that

I think the issue with Lynch is that he’s too similar ( just younger) to Cameron. I’m happy having a younger ruck developing on the list. But he is going to have to prove he can play key position to some extent. The same is true of Cameron.

Two backup specialist ruckman is one too many

 

[whiskeytown]

I think the issue with Lynch is that he’s too similar ( just younger) to Cameron. I’m happy having a younger ruck developing on the list. But he is going to have to prove he can play key position to some extent. The same is true of Cameron.

Two backup specialist ruckman is one too many

For mine Cameron is already the perfect ruck depth who can float forward and take a contested mark. I’d keep him on the list in some capacity for years to come

Problem is we have poor KPF stocks so we rely on Cox playing forward. If we had adequate KPF... then Grundy, Cox and Cameron is all the ruck stocks that are needed imo.

 

[manicpie]

Unless he is to become a competent full back... then Lynch will likely be delisted 12 months from now. A bung investment.

No point putting (by then) 5 years into these project players for them to still not make the grade. The Ben Hudson

Ben Hudson

Age

45

Ht

199cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

17.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

6.4

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

3.8

3star

HO

9.8

5star

type veteran ruck on the rookie list is the way to go for ruck depth.

Same can be said of depth full backs in my opinion. No point investing years into a 18 year old kid who eventually won’t make the grade as a full back... when plenty of veteran full backs that can be rookied

They hung onto him one year too long, but Dunn is the perfect example of that

I've watched Lynch play on numerous occasions and he just can't play the game. He can't play as a defender because he is just s**t

 

[manicpie]

I dont believe so. I'm respnding to a comment that hes been retained.

Are you trying to make a point?

No, I genuinely thought he was delisted

 

[whiskeytown]

I've watched Lynch play on numerous occasions and he just can't play the game. He can't play as a defender because he is just sh*t

I’ve seen pics of him playing defender. Has all the attributes it seems but not every big guy can do a Roughead and play multiple positions on the ground. Maybe Lynch proves us all wrong in 2021?

I’d have delisted him this year. Even a taking Majak Daw

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Majak Daw

Age

33

Ht

195cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

as a rookie is a better list option as he can fill a gap in the ruck or down back

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I’m happy to retain Lynch . Big blokes do take time and 2020 was a complete write off for developing players like him.

But it’s make or break.