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3736 | 0 | Hawking | Arthur Thomas | 70 yrs. | 15/12/1952 |
I see The Encyclopedia has the South Melbourne player as "ex-Kyabram", and Wikipedia also has Kyabram as his original team (players' Wiki pages often have what the book has). But did Thomas Edward Hawkins (who the AFL's records have as the player) leave Ballarat (where the family was living) to go to Kyabram while still a teenager and get recruited from there in 1904?:Newspaper reports re: the Round 13 game, identify the player as Hawking from Kyabram:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/165171650?browse=ndp%3
FOOTBALL - SOUTH MELB. v. FITZROY. - Record (Emerald Hill, Vic. : 1881 - 1954) - 20 Aug 1904
PLUCKY EFFORT BY ST. KILDA. - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 1 Aug 1904
[?] MELBOURNE (10.5) BEAT ST. KILDA (6.10). - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - 1 Aug 1904
There's an Arthur Thomas Hawking who is buried at Kyabram who died in 1952 aged 70. He's the right age, but I haven't been able to track anything to suggest he was a footballer:
3736 0 Hawking Arthur Thomas 70 yrs. 15/12/1952
Bill Jones played three games or Geelong in 1915.
From currently published dates of birth and death, it seems that the player has been identified as William David Jones, born in Williamstown on 11 May 1887 and died in Williamstown on 26 October 1979
From contemporary newspaper reports there is limited identifying information, but we do have:
The current person identified as the player resided in Williamstown, was 28 at the time he played (not really a lad?) and never enlisted to serve in WWI – it seems quite likely he has been mis-identified.
- The Geelong Advertiser match report after his first match referred to him as “the Inverleigh lad”
- The Geelong Football Club annual report at the end of the 1915 season included that “during the season the following players have enlisted …. W. Jones”
My searches on Trove didn’t show much as far as a Jones playing for Inverleigh – but there was a W. Jones who played for Bannockburn who seems a more likely candidate.
William Herbert Jones was born in Bannockburn in 1895 and enlisted to serve in WWI in mid-1915 in Geelong. He was injured a couple of times and suffered from trench foot before returning to Australia near the end of the war. He subsequently left the Geelong area around 1920 and moved to NSW.
He died in a tragic car accident in Molong, NSW in August 1941 along with his wife and children.
I think this person is a much better fit to what limited information we do have about the Geelong player - but would love it if we could find anything more conclusive.
It's a really awful story that one, with two families wrecked.
The Kyabram Historical Society has sent me a copy of the obituary for Arthur Thomas Hawking. It states that he played almost continually for Kyabram from 1901 for about 12 Years. He played for a period with the South Melbourne league team.It appears questionable whether Tom Hawkins played for South Melbourne in 1904. According to Wikipedia he was from Ballarat.
I see The Encyclopedia has the South Melbourne player as "ex-Kyabram", and Wikipedia also has Kyabram as his original team (players' Wiki pages often have what the book has). But did Thomas Edward Hawkins (who the AFL's records have as the player) leave Ballarat (where the family was living) to go to Kyabram while still a teenager and get recruited from there in 1904?:
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It does seem a bit unlikely. Especially as the papers do have the player as Hawking so often.
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This is all I've seen so far. It might mean something!
He was from Kyabram at about the right time:
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Finding something that really helps would be handy!
Good stuff! There shouldn't be any doubt about it now.The Kyabram Historical Society has sent me a copy of the obituary for Arthur Thomas Hawking. It states that he played almost continually for Kyabram from 1901 for about 12 Years. He played for a period with the South Melbourne league team.
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Change SummaryGood stuff! There shouldn't be any doubt about it now.
Change Summary
Player currently identified as Tom Hawkins (one game for SM in 1904) should be
Arthur Thomas Hawking (note change of surname as well)
Born: 19 February 1882 at Redcastle, Victoria (Vic BDM 1882/9842) - note: exact date comes from Ancestry trees; no primary source found
Died: 15 December 1952 at Kew, Victoria (Vic BDM 1953/1721) - as per death notice, obit and grave
...interesting side note for australianfootball.com Oliver Gigacz : he was the uncle of Carlton player George Hawking
Like seeing a lot of 1970-2000 newspapers being digitised in SA.Newspapers coming to Trove over the next month or so
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Coming soon to Trove
These items are being digitised and will soon appear on Trove. Titles have been funded for digitisation by various contributors, which are indicated at the end of each listing. If an item you are interested in has not yet been digitised, why not consider partnering with us and adding titles to...trove.nla.gov.au
Nice work! Unfortunately, this doesn't make it clear just when the kick that ended up with Skilton came (out of his first 3 kicks):But also some new additions:
Harry Hickey
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Goal From First Senior Kick - The Herald (Melbourne, Vic. : 1861 - 1954) - 26 Jul 1937
HICKEY, a Footscray Seconds player, who made his debut in League football when he replaced Merrison on Saturday, scored a ...trove.nla.gov.au
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ST. KILDA REMAIN IN
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What Globe-experts saw. - Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) - 21 Jul 1954
CARLTON for wards’ the song might well be “The legion of ...trove.nla.gov.au
And an update - the Wikipedia page has Bill Smeaton scoring a goal with his first kick - Turns out he got three from three.
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Bright Play At St. Kilda - The Herald (Melbourne, Vic. : 1861 - 1954) - 7 Apr 1951
St Kllda's early game today produced some bright football and several recruits showed improved form. ...trove.nla.gov.au
And a few more that I've found on AFL Tables:
Mick Mulligan (2 goals, 2 kicks on debut, may be more as he kicked 3 goals from 6 kicks in game two)
But also some new additions:
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Roy Files (third game)
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What Globe-experts saw. - Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) - 21 Jul 1954
CARLTON for wards’ the song might well be “The legion of ...trove.nla.gov.au
And, whilst an encouraging start noted at the time, Smeaton's effort doesn't make the list at all.But also some new additions:
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And an update - the Wikipedia page has Bill Smeaton scoring a goal with his first kick - Turns out he got three from three.
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Bright Play At St. Kilda - The Herald (Melbourne, Vic. : 1861 - 1954) - 7 Apr 1951
St Kllda's early game today produced some bright football and several recruits showed improved form. ...trove.nla.gov.au
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I can see why you thought Morrow belonged on the list, but the article's wording in his second game must mean "first kick of the game."But also some new additions:
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Bill Morrow (second game)
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And, whilst an encouraging start noted at the time, Smeaton's effort doesn't make the list at all.But also some new additions:
And an update - the Wikipedia page has Bill Smeaton scoring a goal with his first kick - Turns out he got three from three.
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Bright Play At St. Kilda - The Herald (Melbourne, Vic. : 1861 - 1954) - 7 Apr 1951
St Kllda's early game today produced some bright football and several recruits showed improved form. ...trove.nla.gov.au
Bill Smeaton might still have managed the feat! This is from his debut game (where he kicked just the one goal):He was playing in a pre-season practice match.
And, whilst an encouraging start noted at the time, Smeaton's effort doesn't make the list at all.
Bill Smeaton might still have managed the feat! This is from his debut game (where he kicked just the one goal):
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There's a bit of a difference between "less than a minute" and "within a few seconds of the start", so who knows?!
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It's probably rather likely that it was his first kick of the game.