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Originally posted by localyokel
As good as when Hawke recieved the same treatment in the '80s Frodo?
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Did Bob go at a time when thousands had just been killed in USA. When congresses thoughts were on a trajedy. When Congress was still a prime target in an attack on USA.

I think most PM's would have been whisked back home!!!
 

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Alfie put the angry pills away, this is John Howard were talking about and not the three umpires from the last Essendon/Collingwood match! ;)

Regardles of what you all think of him, this is a political goldmine for Howard.

Send away the Afghan boat folk and be in Washington during the greatest terrorist act of all time. Now all he needs is for a scuffle to break out in East Timor, requiring more Australian troops and a bit of dirt on Kim and he could win this election with a 99% approval rate!

Sad but true!!!
 
Originally posted by TigerTank
It's becoming quite clear who the evil one is here.
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I know what you are saying but I think we can safely say that no-one mentioned in this post or posting in this topic are evil

Alf gets carried away and goes right over the top though. Calm down mate.


I am not a Howard fan but I think he is home and hosed now as Aussies won't want to risk CHANGE in such a volatile environment.

My dreams of Natasha being PM are further away than ever!;)


Frodo - your praise of Howard is a bit over the top as well., It was luck that he was there at this time - whether bad or good

Clearly Americans appreciate the support that this COUNTRY has given them - on both sides of politics I might add.
 
im with you frodo!

made me very proud to be an australian. and when bill clinton had those kind words to say about our PM and our people!
 
Originally posted by Boof458
... I am not a Howard fan but I think he is home and hosed now as Aussies won't want to risk CHANGE in such a volatile environment ...
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If what you say is true, it just goes to prove what a piss-weak concept democracy is.

Think about it.

Terrorists bomb New York ... therefore John Howard wins the Australian election.

Logical, huh?

Stuff democracy.

No wonder people fly planes into buildings.

Just for the record ... my post, which has obviously been deleted, was to the effect that little Johnny Hunt, Amerika's little deputy in the Antipodes was only in Amerika at the time of the terrorist attack by accident. And the only reason the little mug didn't piss off back to Australia immediately was because they'd grounded all the planes.

Frodo's carrying on as if he's done something heroic.

He's no hero. He's just a lucky mug. If he wins an election over this it just proves how stupid Australian voters are.

I presume my post was deleted because of the death threats that followed my otherwise quite valid statement. I admit, this was over the top and apologise.
 
The weird thing here is that Howards great political hero Menzies managed to win an unwinnable election in the early 60's helped in part by another huge American tradgedy, the assassination of Kennedy.
The assassination occured during the election campaign and Menzies just held on, with the election coming down to the last seat-which incidetally the Libs won on communist party preferences.

Weird huh?
 
I liked Bob Hawke more than John Howard but I detested Paul Keating.

However, if it had been Keating there instead of Howard I would have been just as proud. It's not about the bloke, it's about Australia, what we stand for and how we are perceived by the heads of a very important country and as such by the western world.

Damn, it makes me proud. Don't anyone belittle this nation because for all it's faults there is non better than Australia.
 
Never thought i'd say this, but i agree with Alf.

What has John Howard done, really????

Read out a few speeches written by his advisors, and received a standing ovation from a bunch of Americans who are yet to work out what a joke he is.

Oh, and burdened Nauru with the task taking care of a group of
refugees that we could easily have taken care of ourselves.

Democracy?

What a joke.

Why am I paying for John Howards vote-grabbing attempt? I can't stand the idiot. Where's the democracy in that?

Democracy is just a rule made to be broken by the very people who preach it.

Look at the US election.
 
You might find that Nauru will be paid via extra foreign aid grants for their part in the refugee debacle.

If John Howard wins an election due to the fact that he was in the US at the time of the bombings, I'm packing up and leaving for America where pollies at least have to pay off people to get elected...
 

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Originally posted by Bluey
You might find that Nauru will be paid via extra foreign aid grants for their part in the refugee debacle.
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Err......i know. Hence this comment:

(posted by yours truly)

"Why am I paying for John Howards vote-grabbing attempt? I can't stand the idiot. Where's the democracy in that?"

If John Howard wins an election due to the fact that he was in the US at the time of the bombings, I'm packing up and leaving for America where pollies at least have to pay off people to get elected...
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I think you'll find Mr Sheen has already done that. He's paying off Nauru in order to win the votes of Australians.
 
Originally posted by AlfAndrews


If what you say is true, it just goes to prove what a piss-weak concept democracy is.

Think about it.

Terrorists bomb New York ... therefore John Howard wins the Australian election.

Logical, huh?

....
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If - and this is a BIG if - the Liberals get up in the coming election, it will be because of Howards strong stand on the refugee issue.

Personally, I don't think this will be enough to save him though. All Labor have to do is mention those 3 letters - G. S. T. - which will serve to jolt peoples memories.

Sad really, as I think is it a case of "out of the frying pan, into the fire" with Windsock Beasly.

Oh for another strong leader!

Originally posted by AlfAndrews

I presume my post was deleted because of the death threats that followed my otherwise quite valid statement. I admit, this was over the top and apologise.
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Yes.
 
Originally posted by CJH
If - and this is a BIG if - the Liberals get up in the coming election, it will be because of Howards strong stand on the refugee issue.
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Strong stand??????????? lmao!

More like desperate.
 

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Originally posted by CJH


If - and this is a BIG if - the Liberals get up in the coming election, it will be because of Howards strong stand on the refugee issue.
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If by strong you mean playing the race card and playing on irraitonal fears of the country being overrun by non-whites then I agree with you.


He is a small pathetic little man.
 
And whatever mileage Howard may have gained from the international crisis, Beazley probably just gained more from his address at the ansett rally in Syndey.

I have never thought of Beazley as a 'leader' type person before. But watching him then? Well lets just say the man did way better than I ever expected.
 
Originally posted by Bluey
gP - Sorry, I was just responding to THIS line:

"Oh, and burdened Nauru with the task taking care of a group of refugees that we could easily have taken care of ourselves."
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I don't know if you've missed what i'm trying to say, or if you're being a smartarse? :confused:

In case you missed it, i'll post the relevant bits again:

(posted by gPhonque)
"Oh, and burdened Nauru with the task taking care of a group of
refugees that we could easily have taken care of ourselves.

Democracy?

What a joke.

Why am I paying for John Howards vote-grabbing attempt? I can't stand the idiot. Where's the democracy in that?"



We are paying all expenses involved in Nauru taking in the refugees. I'm against sending them to Nauru - whether we are paying the bill or not - sending them to Nauru is basically Mr Sheen's way of "making a stand" - translation: clutching at straws in an attempt to grab the votes of the racists/rednecks by effectively telling the refugees to piss off.

He's forcing Australians such as myself, who disagree with his racist and intolerable view on the situation, to pay for his publicity-stunt/vote-catching attempt.

Not very Democratic.

The racists don't mind though.

Like i said - Democracy is just a rule made to be broken by those who preach it.

As far as i'm concerned, John Howard has NO right to speak, or to act, for me.

Hell, George Dubbuya Bush was actually outvoted by Al Gore.

The majority of Americans voted for Gore! Not Bush!

Yet, here we have Bush preaching the values of Democracy!

Ironic?

Or hypocritical?

You'll like this too:

de·moc·ra·cy (d-mkr-s)
n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

2. A political or social unit that has such a government.

3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.

4. Majority rule.

Majority rule?

Not in America.


I'm just rambling now......i could go on, but i'm sure you don't want me to. lol :)
 
Bluey - also, if you did actually know what i was getting at, and i've misunderstood your last post, then i apologize for subjecting you to the above rant. :)
 
A lot of people give John Howard crap but he has turned the economy of the country around (with Costello).

Our trade deficit is at lowest level, economic growth has been strong and he has taken some strong stances on issues.

The Labor party has no policies. They base their election philosophy on attacking the Liberals policies.

The Howard Governments economic reform has turned the country around for the better.

I haven’t really read how people are criticizing him for being in the United States, but he had to be there.

Howard is there with the possibility of setting up a free trade area/partnership with the USA. He has done this because Asia will not allow Australia inclusion in their regional trade areas.

With the rise of the European Union and Asia RTA, Australia could be positioned out of the global economy.

His visit to America was to look after our future through setting up a free trade area with America (like NAFTA).
 
Originally posted by Rohan Coventry
. He has done this because Asia will not allow Australia inclusion in their regional trade areas.

With the rise of the European Union and Asia RTA, Australia could be positioned out of the global economy.
(like NAFTA).
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What? When did that happen. I guess Mahatir finally got his way then:(
 

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