LIVE Federal Election Coverage 2016

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With the exception of katter who has a solid personal brand, cross benchers are never safe. I think who is more likely to go a full term will figure highly in their decisions, last thing they would want is an early election to break a deadlock.
Wilkie has a pretty bug majority, Brandt seems to be getting fairly safe (and as a party might like another election for a crack at Batman if the political winds are blowing right), McGowan seems to be developing a pretty solid base and NXT seems to be 'on the rise'.

If they can spin their decision to not support something as being for their electorate, they'd probably gain from it.
 

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I don't think the speaker is a major concern. It'll be 76-74, so take a speaker out and it's still a majority at 75-74.

I suspect there will be a lot of dodgy policies, it's just that most will either be to satisfy the minors or fairly blatant vote grabs to try and setup for next time. What there wont be is a lot of unpopular legislation enacted 'for the good of the country' (tough budgets for example).
well at least (according to Bishop) Malcolm is talking to all cross bench members. Picture should be clearer tomorrow.
Meanwhile I am really enjoying W Roy's lamenting that the One Nation votes cost him his seat.
Nah Wyatt your born to rule attitude cost you your seat.
Now go and get a real job.
 

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Why is it a given that the ALP wont support the libs?
because of politics. neither major party would endorse the other, they'd sooner burn the entire country to the ground. see 2010 election for example, both bickering over who has "the right" to form government. as if they were lining up to pull Excalibur itself out of the ground.
 
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Why is it a given that the ALP wont support the libs?
Not in Labor's interests to do so.

In fact, it could be argued that forming a minority government (even if they could) is not in Labor's interests (re: next election). Bowen said on Q&A it was an error last time under Gillard in hindsight.

Better for the ALP to play a patient game and the old school Australian political card of promoting a stable united single party that can govern in its own right versus a messy, divided and unstable (greater) coalition of non-Labor parties. Economic uncertainties and deficits aren't going away between now and the next election, and neither is more years of a Turnbull (small l)/Abbott (conservative) divide within the LNP, and nor is this even more difficult and eclectic Senate.

More of what we've seen from this LNP government will have the electorate bringing their baseball bats to the next election and the ALP will only need to pick up a further handful of seats to gain majority government.
 

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Not in Labor's interests to do so.

In fact, it could be argued that forming a minority government (even if they could) is not in Labor's interests (re: next election). Bowen said on Q&A it was an error last time under Gillard in hindsight.

Better for the ALP to play a patient game and the old school Australian political card of promoting a stable united single party that can govern in its own right versus a messy, divided and unstable (greater) coalition of non-Labor parties. Economic uncertainties and deficits aren't going away between now and the next election, and neither is more years of a Turnbull (small l)/Abbott (conservative) divide within the LNP, and nor is this even more difficult and eclectic Senate.

More of what we've seen from this LNP government will have the electorate bringing their baseball bats to the next election and the ALP will only need to pick up a further handful of seats to gain majority government.

Works both ways, as evidenced by last time.

I suspect it could be the other way around this time due to a combination of the impetus to hold onto power (so the incumbent is more desperate) and Turnbull's ego.
 

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Actual current figures

Coalition 70
Labor 71
Greens 1
Others 5
4 yet to be determined

Senate:

Coalition 29
Labor 26
Greens 9
NXT 3
Hanson 5
Hinch 1
Lambie 1
Christian Democrats 1
Liberal Democrats 1
 

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Very amusing result so far.

Say the Coalition gets 74-76 seats, what are people's thoughts on the probable strategy for the Speaker?
Can't see it.

At best Coalition wins the seats it narrowely leads..taking it to 73 to Labor 74.

Possible speakers:

Tony Smith (current speaker - and did a decent job in the last Parliament)
Joanne Ryan (Labor member of speakers panel and former teacher - hardly likely to take any bullshit from anyone)
 

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This campaign has been a disgrace, especially from Labor - but the Liberals have been just as bad previously.

Surely it's about time for some genuine, strong legislation around electioneering, and the standards of behavior and ethics that are acceptable.

The Medicare thing was an absolute disgrace, then reports of tele-callers ringing Wyatt Roy's electorate slandering him.

The Medicare thing was the backbone of their entire campaign - and it was a complete and blatant fabrication; that type of shit should not be acceptable.
It was probably non-core campaigning.
 

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I was speaking with someone who worked an Adelaide seat Saturday. The Senate ballots ( being so big) were crammed , screwed, wrongly marked , etc. So much so that votes with just a 1 were counted. HoR votes were counted if boxes were left empty , yet not counted if there was a fraction of pencil in the remaining empty box/es. Scrutineers were finally told '' Its the intent we are looking for''
 

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Kidding, right?
During the last Labor government there was a small smear campaign regarding the PM, and her actions as a lawyer, I believe this board touched briefly on it. But the Medicare campaign was an absolute scandal, and it's perpetrators should be jailed. Brilliant.
The Coalition has long-standing form in doing all they can to mortally wound Medicare, the public knows that, so I think most of them see semantic arguments about whether it was specifically "privatisation" as being neither here nor there.
 

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Is anyone actually saying that the Medicare thing is criminally prosecutable? If so that's bananas.

It's not a bit of a lamentable commentary on the state of political discourse though, and not at all edifying for Shorten and the ALP.
 

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Kidding, right?
Bishop on 7.30 mewling and whining like a 3 year old.
These flogs don't even acknowledge their shitness.
They are unfit to run let alone rule.
Yes, we have a situation where the Foreign Minister blatantly policitised national security with her dishonest comments on Anne Aly. She should resign on that alone.
 

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Actual current figures

Coalition 70
Labor 71
Greens 1
Others 5
4 yet to be determined

Senate:

Coalition 29
Labor 26
Greens 9
NXT 3
Hanson 5
Hinch 1
Lambie 1
Christian Democrats 1
Liberal Democrats 1
Please god no - I know we have our fair share of far-right lunatics but I didn't think it was that many
 

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Was driving last night and listening to bolt.

Very dismissive of turnbull but it was typical bolt, the whole discussion is framed that turnbull 'frittered' away abbotts mandate. There was not even one second of acknowledgement that abbott did most of that himself
Least Abbott actually believed in his own policies, however wrong they may have been. That could be Bolt's point.
 

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During the last Labor government there was a small smear campaign regarding the PM, and her actions as a lawyer, I believe this board touched briefly on it. But the Medicare campaign was an absolute scandal, and it's perpetrators should be jailed. Brilliant.
Impersonating a government department is a bit of a big deal.

People would go to gaol if they could find the ones who impersonate the ATO to achieve their goals.
 
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Please god no - I know we have our fair share of far-right lunatics but I didn't think it was that many
If you have been paying attention to these boards of late, then you'd know that Hanson is (unfortunately) fully representative.
 
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