Current Lloyd Rayney Trial / Appeal

BlueE

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Can I just ask, what are the theories behind the differences in whether the car was travelling forwards or backwards to the gravesite? Have just read through the thread with a large dedication to this point, but unsure why, as the car was found around the corner and involved in dumping the body. Just struggling to see the relevance. Am I missing something???

If the answer is within the 60 Minutes episode, please don't make me watch it. I don't like watching the Sunday version of A Current Affair.....
Don't think it matters. Facts are that there were one set of tire prints and no room to turn the car around. I think the point of contention was that the middle bollard which had been under repair may have been known and the bollard was removed. However there seems to be a lump of concrete or wood that the car then ran over (either going forwards or backwards) that pieced underneath the car and cause an engine oil leak.

There was much expert evidence given about the size capacity of the oil and how fast it would flow and run out, and plausible that the car could be driven and disposed of in the Kershaw St, Subiaco with the oil trail then leading back to the disposal site.

A point of contention was when the car was disposed of as one witness said she heard a car schreeching when she was in bed around 2.20 am (she looked at clock radio) and another witness who said he saw a car matching the description driving erratically and schreeching on Thomas St driving towards Kershaw St at around 5.20 am when he had woken up. T

he latter did not fit the prosecution story that Lloyd had disposed of the body, then driven in the opposite direction to home ditched the car and walked home in time for the children not to notice and him not being seen.
 

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Also if I was reading the experts report correctly the gears crashed one after the other when the engine oil kept draining.

That is, 5th worked then 4th, 3rd, 2nd and then only 1st gear which would explain a straining noise as the car ended up at Kewshaw St.
 

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A "significant cloud" remains over Lloyd Rayney's future as a lawyer after an appeal against a tribunal recommendation that he be struck off the West Australian roll was thrown out.
The Legal Profession Complaints Committee pursued Mr Rayney over allegations of misconduct, including secretly recording conversations on a dictaphone with his wife Corryn before she was murdered in August 2007.
Mr Rayney's lawyer Martin Bennett said the order of the State Administrative Tribunal that referred the matter to the full court of the WA Supreme Court would now take effect and they would determine whether he can keep his job.
"He's presently not able to practise," Mr Bennett told reporters outside the WA Supreme Court on Friday.

 

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WASCA report Re; RAYNEY -v- LEGAL PROFESSION COMPLAINTS COMMITTEE [2019] WASCA 104

HEARD :23 APRIL 2019
DELIVERED: 2 AUGUST 2019


Catchwords:
"Legal practitioner - Professional misconduct - Findings of State Administrative Tribunal (Tribunal) that practitioner knowingly contravened Surveillance Devices Act 1998 (WA) in recording conversations with his late wife and knowingly gave false evidence about the recordings - Whether Tribunal's intermediate findings of fact open on the evidence - Whether findings glaringly improbable or contrary to compelling inferences
Practice and procedure - Application to reopen to tender further evidence before the Tribunal on day scheduled for closing submissions - Where additional evidence relevant to expert evidence - Where matters not put to experts - Where Tribunal dismissed practitioner's application - Whether practitioner was denied procedural fairness. Practice and procedure - Applications to adduce further expert evidence and evidence of fact from practitioner on the hearing of the appeal."



For those interested in reading this decision/judgement doc, heads up its a big read.
268 pages.
 

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Rayney was back in court yesterday.

Here's the reported outcome of the hearing for his defamation trial against a WA Police forensic investigator.

Lloyd Rayney set for defamation trial against WA Police forensic investigator (online)
Rayney case set for trial (paper)

Tim Clarke
3 October 2019

Lloyd Rayney - the former top prosecution lawyer cleared of murdering his wife - is set for another defamation trial, this time against the WA police forensic investigator who he claims defamed him in a public forum.

Mr Rayney began defamation action against Mark Reynolds in 2015 over a statement made at a forensic science forum in Perth a year earlier.

But with Mr Rayney's many other legal cases including seperate defamation case against WA Police and the battle to retain his law licence - the matter has only now reached the pointy end. Yesterday, that end was confirmed as being a three-day trial in January next year.

Dr Reynolds represented himself at the brief hearing fixing the trial date, saying he would be ready to face the defamation accusation in January.

That three-day trial is set to hear evidence about alleged comments made by Mr Reynolds to a forum in June 2014. Dr Reynolds attended the forum with other detectives from the Operation Dargan taskforce, which investigated the murder of Mr Rayney's wife Corryn.
 

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Rayney was back in court yesterday.

Here's the reported outcome of the hearing for his defamation trial against a WA Police forensic investigator.

Lloyd Rayney set for defamation trial against WA Police forensic investigator (online)
Rayney case set for trial (paper)

Tim Clarke
3 October 2019
I always wonder, whenever crooked cops or dodgy forensics makes the press in WA whether any of them were involved in the CSK investigation.
 

Sorbet Bliss

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A follow on from BFew post. Here are the July and August 2016 WASC docs for those who haven't read them.
Both documents are quick reads.


CITATION: RAYNEY -v- REYNOLDS [2016] WASC 219
HEARD :14 JULY 2016
DELIVERED :14 JULY 2016
PUBLISHED:19 JULY 2016



CITATION: RAYNEY -v- REYNOLDS [No 2] [2016] WASC 254
DELIVERED: 16 AUGUST 2016

 

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^ no because Lloyd also lied under oath and misled the Court ^

The State Administrative Tribunal (SAT) described Mr Rayney's conduct as "disgraceful and dishonourable", saying it was satisfied he "was not a fit and proper person to engage in legal practice".
The SAT found Mr Rayney had engaged in professional misconduct by "knowingly giving false evidence on oath" to a 2009 Magistrates Court hearing when he said Corryn Rayney knew, and consented to, the recording of about nine of her conversations on a handheld dictaphone between April and July 2007.

However, the SAT said his actions were "not isolated", because he repeated the false evidence in prior proceedings before the tribunal in 2015 and the Supreme Court during his 2017 defamation case, and again before the tribunal in this matter.
"It is our view that Mr Rayney lacks the honesty and candour that are essential attributes for a legal practitioner," it said in a written judgment.

SAT recommended Mr Rayney be reprimanded and a recommendation be made to the full bench of the Supreme Court that his "name be removed from the roll of persons admitted to the legal profession".
 

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Thought I'd bring that discussion over here as it's off topic in the other thread.

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I understand about the butt being found with that person's DNA on it, but why bring it up in their article? Are they suggesting Webb put the DNA on the butt?
 

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Thought I'd bring that discussion over here as it's off topic in the other thread.

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I understand about the butt being found with that person's DNA on it, but why bring it up in their article? Are they suggesting Webb put the DNA on the butt?
I think it was more to do with saying that DNA evidence was ignored and possibly to just point out he was involved in a wrongful conviction case.
 

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Mr Rayney is struck off as a lawyer.
Lloyd Rayney has been struck off as a lawyer for secretly recording Corryn's conversations and then giving false evidence about it in court (he lied)






The court said the decision to strike him off, "was essentially because of Mr Rayney's fundamental failure to adhere to his duties to the court to act honestly".

The court ruled that Mr Rayney's "dishonest behaviour" was so serious that "the only appropriate order for the court to make was an order to remove Mr Rayney's name from the roll of practitioners".
 

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Mr Rayney is struck off as a lawyer.
Lloyd Rayney has been struck off as a lawyer for secretly recording Corryn's conversations and then giving false evidence about it in court (he lied)



Cya Lloyd.
 

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