Looking at the other side of yesterday's match

[Danny Chook Fan Club]

(Note: I've stolen this idea off a Hawthorn messageboard, but it's my messageboard so I'm allowed

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Hawthorn beat Collingwood by a goal in Round 1. After the game on the radio, on the Sunday footy shows, and in the wrap-ups in the paper, the prevailing wisdom was that Hawthorn were a) poor, b) lucky and c) overrated, because Collingwood got so close to them.

Essendon beat Collingwood by eight points yesterday. I saw both games, and Collingwood played no better yesterday than they did in Round 1. But now the focus is "Oh, weren't Collingwood good? Aren't Collingwood going to be a good team?"

My question is - where's the dissection of Essendon? Were Essendon poor? Lucky? Are Essendon overrated?

Maybe I'm biased (!) but it seems a bit inequitable that two very comparable performances against Collingwood could be treated so differently by the media.

 

[windyhill]

you hate us,and I absolutely love it,how 84/85 and our current good run must haunt you,love it.

 

[magpie_joffa]

Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club:
(Note: I've stolen this idea off a Hawthorn messageboard, but it's my messageboard so I'm allowed

)

Hawthorn beat Collingwood by a goal in Round 1. After the game on the radio, on the Sunday footy shows, and in the wrap-ups in the paper, the prevailing wisdom was that Hawthorn were a) poor, b) lucky and c) overrated, because Collingwood got so close to them.

Essendon beat Collingwood by eight points yesterday. I saw both games, and Collingwood played no better yesterday than they did in Round 1. But now the focus is "Oh, weren't Collingwood good? Aren't Collingwood going to be a good team?"

My question is - where's the dissection of Essendon? Were Essendon poor? Lucky? Are Essendon overrated?

Maybe I'm biased (!) but it seems a bit inequitable that two very comparable performances against Collingwood could be treated so differently by the media.

LOL...LOL WHAT A MEANINGLESS POST !!!

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good ole collingwood for ever,we know how to play the game,side by side we stick together to uphold the REAL magpies name,see the barrackers are shouting,as all barrackers should,YES the premiership's a cakewalk for the good ole collingwood.
'YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE'http://www.mp3.com/joffa

 

[CJH]

OF course Richmond beat Collingwood by 15 points!

Lest we forget!

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I See Sunshine On a Cloudy Day The joys of knocking off Collingwood!
Long Range Support - Following the Tigers from interstate.

 

[SS11]

maybe essendon and hawthorn are 1st and 2nd on the ladder...OH THEY ARE

maybe it was cos the pies are so greatly improved, and the media thought the pies got close to hawthorn cos of hawthorn stuffing up, and giving no credit to the pies..OH THATS TRUE AS WELL

maybe the pies were good enough to match and in some places better essendon...OH THATS TRUE ALSO!!

get the point?

 

[elt]

SS11,

Maybe you will come close to a couple more good teams this year! Maybe you'll get a couple more honorable losses on the board (where abouts on the ladder do they appear?)

Get the four points?

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

 

[Danny Chook Fan Club]

Originally posted by SS11:
get the point?

Well ... no. I thought that was my original question - where is the dissection of Essendon?

 

[Arch]

Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club:
[BI saw both games, and Collingwood played no better yesterday than they did in Round 1. .[/B]

Youre totally kidding yourself arnt ya ???? Bollocks Danny.

 

[Danny Chook Fan Club]

Not really Arch - as I said, I saw both games - did you?

Btw, you can change your location back - you're on top again.

 

[Joel]

Elt - Essendon lost one game last year...we came 15th. We will get ours back - this is why we are not too worried. We see the BIGGER PICTURE.

Originally posted by elt:
SS11,

Maybe you will come close to a couple more good teams this year! Maybe you'll get a couple more honorable losses on the board (where abouts on the ladder do they appear?)

Get the four points?

 

[SomeCatsFan]

Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club:
I saw both games - did you?

I saw both games and both teams have improved a fair bit (Collingwood & Hawthorn).
I don't care what they say about Collingwood because they said the same thing last year when Collingwood were 5-0. We all know what happened then don't we.

 

[kaz68]

Originally posted by windyhill:
you hate us,and I absolutely love it,how 84/85 and our current good run must haunt you,love it.

Yep we do hate you ... but guess what, so does everybody else. Perhaps it has more to do with your so called supporters and that scum sucker of a coach you have than anything else. Are you still haunted by '83 ?? Or '90 for that matter ?? Get REAL.
Go Hawks
Kaz




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http://www.kaz68.homestead.com/heaven.html

 

[ah_19]

joffa can you PLEASE for once post something INTELLEGENT

 

[jod23]

Nice post Elt.

And for the record i think Essendon are slightly overated and wont be as dominant this year as last, Hawthorn are a little overated especially now on the back of 4 straight wins and the Pies are underated and will be better this year.

SO after all that Hawks and Essendon will be there at the business end and Collingwood will be around 10th or 12th.

 

[elt]

Joel,

What I am saying is that Collingwood have improved but if the fans and the club continue to rave about how good these losses are it is not going to build a winning culture. Yes you have some youngsters that can be the makings of a good side but the backslapping and self congratulations for the results you've had are laughable. You are improving but surely after the last couple of seasons the only way was up?

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

 

[Joel]

Elt, I understand...the following is a post from Nick's site:

I posted it!

NO, Spidergirl you are wrong!!!!! You have misread this completely. We aren't happy that we lost but happy that we nearly beat the best team in the comp...REMEMBER they lost 1 game last year...ONE GAME!!! The other difference between Collingwood and Essendon is that they won the premieship, while Collingwood came 15th. Another - we have not made the finals for SEVEN YEARS!! This is the difference.

Now, do you understand?

 

[Pessimistic]

The question should be (and they will be asking it after round 8)

WHO CAN BEAT HAWTHORN ?

Sure wer'e still making too many clangers but that means wev'e been that much more better than anyone we have met this year. Throw in a lopsided free kick statistic and the Hawks could be underrated. Also look at big man depth and the good players kicking Ass in for Box Hill then it could be a 'special' year