AFL Autopsy Loss to the Hawkes

[astrowizzle]

Scrimshaw you maggot. Is #freekickhawthorn a thing again?

Scumshaw more appropriate

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

Prior was really, really bad

 

[Nicholas61]

Also, another big **** off to the umps. The second half was a joke and pretty much ensured we never go within striking distance.

The free against Draper for a legitimate spoil and virtually no body contact on Day was disgusting. That was an ump itching to give them one and it changed the game massively. We kept fighting to the boys credit but we don't have the talent over the ground to combat that umpiring against the better teams.

 

[mike14]

Prior was really, really bad

It'll be interesting to see what we do with him. New player, round 1, one bad game, did enough to get selected in the first place, blah blah...
If we are serious about standards and accountability then he has to be dropped. Not as a 'never to be seen again', but as a 'there are minimum standards and even if it's an anomaly, that kind of performance gets you demoted until you show us otherwise'.

 

[Shack18]

As a neutral I thought was a very good first up performance by the Bombers, strong around the ball, terrific effort and intensity - winning inside 50’s and equal scoring shots. 2MP will straighten team up. Concerns for me would be number 25 he was poor, get Shiel out of backline and lower eyes more often going forward of centre.

 

[jdstorm]

Scumshaw more appropriate

#hockballspitonthatwhistle

 

[Yoda_]

We just aren’t clinical enough. Merrett is probably our only elite kick. It feels like we work twice as hard for our goals compared to our opposition

I haven't watched the game but the end of quarter scores suggests we had opportunities in the third (3.6) to really ram home and get back into the game.

25 scoring shots (Essendon) to 26 (Hawks) is always the common denominator in Essendon losses. Good goal kicking and we win.

 

[crackers65]

Until we go past McGrath,Redman, Shiel, Prior in the backline we are just going to be the same old same olds.
Caddy also needs more help. He keeps getting manhandled and will take time to put on size and build up core strength.

 

[crackers65]

Scumshaw more appropriate

Always scumshaw. He plays for the s**t and p**s.

 

[astrowizzle]

Okay, it's a loss. A bit of perspective is in order though.
Hawks went deep in finals last year.
We won just about every team metric tonight. The two main deficits were in disposal efficiency and centre stoppages.
Our work ethic is clear when you consider we had more of the ball (won both the contested and uncontested) and still had more tackles than them. Moore's comment, "That was a tough win," is reflective of this.
We had their measure for most of the game. If anything, we were outdone by the greasiness of the conditions, the wrong boots, inefficiency and a lack of pace on the outside.
Worth remembering they got to blow the cobwebs out against a quality opponent last week.
Loved Caldwell, Jones and Roberts tonight. Also Merrett, Duursma and Kako. My boy Prior won't be happy with himself. Probably Redders should have started back and Duz should have had the Day job.
I thought Bryan worked his way into the game - wasn't unhappy.
And Scrimshaw got what he deserved.

No he deserved some 80s on the field justice
Weak as piss ass hole

 

[justlookingaround]

Sleeping on it, it was a good performance in many metrics, but there were still a lot of the same problems as last year when it comes to scoring and connection.
Once again we dominated play for extended periods of the game but failed to put it on the scoreboard, and leaked goals when it slingshotted out of our press.
Those fastbreak goals, a slow start and goals from centre bounce ended up losing us the game - it wasn't general play in which we were clearly on top for ~65% of the match.
Round 1 obviously, and you'd back our front and back synergy to improve - but already having key injuries to senior players in these areas is going to stretch us a fair bit.
They are the sort of problems you kind of feel might suddenly gel together and have us looking real good the same way the Hawks did last year and the Blues the year before that and Melbourne in 2021... but also it's Essendon so that probably won't happen, at least not this year...

So, it wasn't a bad loss... Hawks punished us like we can expect good teams to do.
But glass half empty the bones for a bad loss were kind of there... If Caldwell has an off night and you throw immobile Parish into the middle and Laverde gets a call up down back we probably lose that by 55 points.
Glass half full the bones for a win were there if we capitalise on our time in forward half.

 

[Chief Hopper]

25 scoring shots (Essendon) to 26 (Hawks) is always the common denominator in Essendon losses. Good goal kicking and we win.

Many of our scoring shots were from harder angles, rushed kicks. Hawks missed some set shots from fwd50 marks.
Next step, amongst a few, is to start marking more in the fwd 50. Easy said then done though.

 

[jdstorm]

It'll be interesting to see what we do with him. New player, round 1, one bad game, did enough to get selected in the first place, blah blah...
If we are serious about standards and accountability then he has to be dropped. Not as a 'never to be seen again', but as a 'there are minimum standards and even if it's an anomaly, that kind of performance gets you demoted until you show us otherwise'.

Well Ridleys hurt and he’s the player who fills that role so at very least he should get 2 more games

 

[Yoda_]

Many of our scoring shots were from harder angles, rushed kicks. Hawks missed some set shots from fwd50 marks.
Next step, amongst a few, is to start marking more in the fwd 50. Easy said then done though.

Ive often said that our poor shot accuracy is due to what you just said. Our inability to open up the better lanes inside 50 leads to harder shots. Furthermore, having trust to kick it to the big guys (like draper and a shit 2MP) loses all faith. When you add the lack of marking power from our smalls, our get out is the spot up kick inside 50

 

[Milanista28]

Explain to me the logic of playing an inside mid out of position forward while having a perfectly capable forward sitting as sub?

A coach that's getting paid close to a million dollars should know the answer to this?

 

[Lore]

Explain to me the logic of playing an inside mid out of position forward while having a perfectly capable forward sitting as sub?

A coach that's getting paid close to a million dollars should know the answer to this?

Rotations

 

[Honey Crumpets]

Brad Scott, the coach who did so well at NM "with list he had" signed up for another year.
Our kicking is horrible.
My 12 y/o son told me this week he no longer wants to barrack for the Dons and now goes for Sydney, although he tried to make me feel better by saying Essendon is his 2nd favourite team.

I'm completely pumped for another season of the mighy Dons

 

[Milanista28]

Rotations

Hobbs rotated in 3 times, Redman got in more. All the while our front half lacks zip and structure.

If Hobbs had any form of outside game I'd give you rotations as a good excuse but because he doesn't...

 

[EnolaGay]

Saad in without even a second thought. No way do we keep Prior in after that game.

He had a howler for sure, not sure the match ups did him any favours at times. I’d give him another go to see how he bounces back. We need to see more than one game from him.


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[EnolaGay]

Can we just make boots with long stops mandatory. Beyond ridiculous how many times we straight out slipped and lost a vital contest.

That was another stat we won convincingly.

Slips: Essendon 8 - Hawthorne 0


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[EnolaGay]

Okay, it's a loss. A bit of perspective is in order though.
Hawks went deep in finals last year.
We won just about every team metric tonight. The two main deficits were in disposal efficiency and centre stoppages.
Our work ethic is clear when you consider we had more of the ball (won both the contested and uncontested) and still had more tackles than them. Moore's comment, "That was a tough win," is reflective of this.
We had their measure for most of the game. If anything, we were outdone by the greasiness of the conditions, the wrong boots, inefficiency and a lack of pace on the outside.
Worth remembering they got to blow the cobwebs out against a quality opponent last week.
Loved Caldwell, Jones and Roberts tonight. Also Merrett, Duursma and Kako. My boy Prior won't be happy with himself. Probably Redders should have started back and Duz should have had the Day job.
I thought Bryan worked his way into the game - wasn't unhappy.
And Scrimshaw got what he deserved.

100% agree [emoji106]


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[Chief Hopper]

Oh, and wtf was up with Redman trying to play a tagging role in the middle… Note that we actually outscore them after that bizarre tactic was halted.

To me it looked like Redman was in the middle to beef up that area. Might've helped with Setters there instead.

 

[jdstorm]

I haven't watched the game but the end of quarter scores suggests we had opportunities in the third (3.6) to really ram home and get back into the game.

25 scoring shots (Essendon) to 26 (Hawks) is always the common denominator in Essendon losses. Good goal kicking and we win.

From memory a lot of those behinds were bad half chances under high pressure

 

[Cold Sober]

Did someone not tell Reid AFL is a bit quicker than Leongatha seconds.
Awareness and reaction time of Forrest Gump.

 

[JT_the_Man]

To me it looked like Redman was in the middle to beef up that area. Might've helped with Setters there instead.

We could’ve just had Durham in there, which is what we eventually did to help turn the tide back our way.