Loyalty

[RupetFan]

Dane Swan was shopped to GWS was he not a few years back.?
More of a cheeky Eddie meeting that left GWS people sure that he was getting shopped for draft picks. A quip quip from Eddie subsequently denying it happened.

No he wasn't.

 

[MISFITS]

No he wasn't.

Nobody will ever get to the bottom of it but that is what GWS was claiming.

 

[Vicky Park]

Catch that one Vicky Park ?

They could start to increase during the trade and draft period.

 

[Vicky Park]

Dane Swan was shopped to GWS was he not a few years back.?
More of a cheeky Eddie meeting that left GWS people sure that he was getting shopped for draft picks. A quip quip from Eddie subsequently denying it happened.

You're spoiling the fun, and the self-congratulations.

 

[Magpie Girl]

Travis Cloke says get stuffed Buckley.

I saw Cloke today with Buckley and the team.
They were all lunching together, very casually
He is so much a part of that group; there is not the slightest hint of sour grapes or disharmony.
It's going to be interesting to see what really happens here rather than the media driven campaign.
Even if he leaves I'm impressed with his attitude.
But at this stage he's still 100% Black and White

 

[THATSGOLD]

I saw Cloke today with Buckley and the team.
They were all lunching together, very casually
He is so much a part of that group; there is not the slightest hint of sour grapes or disharmony.
It's going to be interesting to see what really happens here rather than the media driven campaign.
Even if he leaves I'm impressed with his attitude.
But at this stage he's still 100% Black and White

Cloke has a great attitude and is probably just happy to leave Collingwood for his own sake. No sour grapes but our treatment towards him has been crap. He's a credit to him to keep calm.

 

[jathanas]

I'm loyal to Collingwood, but as a fan, I romanticize. Players are professionals and the clubs are profit making entities.

Loyalty exists to a degree but the AFL is a business.

 

[Apex36]

Travis Cloke says get stuffed Buckley.

I'm not sure how that's relevant. The question was does loyalty exist, not are clubs and players unwaveringly loyal to each other all the time...

 

[35Daicos]

I'm not sure how that's relevant. The question was does loyalty exist, not are clubs and players unwaveringly loyal to each other all the time...

I think TG was just looking for an excuse to be able to put "get stuffed Buckley" into a sentence!

 

[Saintly Viewed]

All true. But, the supporter has a different idea of loyalty. If a player is great, they don't want him to leave, and pull the loyalty card, asking where's the loyalty after we drafted you, developed you, and now you leave.. (Hi Mr Beams).
Then, on the other hand, supporters get all excited when a gun player wants to come to their club, after the original club drafted them, developed them and now they want to leave. Loyalty is no big deal... (Hi Mr Treloar).

But, if a player is not rated, loyalty doesn't come in to it. Otherwise, we owe Blair another 4 year contract. He has been loyal to the club for many years, and busted his arse for us. We should now be loyal to him, for his efforts, and keep him in our squad. Same with Gault. Same with Cloke.

What exactly is loyalty, if the goal post move depending on which side of the fence you sit???

Correct well said.
The best you can say is
If a clubs supporters knew giving up a star loved player would yield a flag, they would congratulate the club on a job well done

 

[lyfsux]

What is loyalty?

To a supporter it's their club being loyal to winning flags.

To a player it's loyalty to support them in their decisions.

To player managers loyalty is to their client (and the 5% cut they get)

To the aFL loyalty is supporting GWS first and foremost

To the umpires loyalty is paying free kicks to Hawthorn

 

[Ulahoopski]

I read that Harvey forced the decision onto them rather than waiting until the end of the season.

That's what Brayshaw has been saying then adding that "the club is bigger than any one player". So if the latter is the case then why did they pander to Harvey and make the announcement now? Wouldn't you say to Boomer, "Surely you realise the football club is the most important thing right now and as such we can't risk derailing our finals campaign with the upheaval that any delisting announcements might bring?" The excuse from Boomer that he wanted to know so his family and friends could get to what may be his last game in Melbourne is feeble - does it take that to get those people close to him to come to the game this weekend?? I think Boomer's been incredibly selfish, and NM incredibly soft by caving in to his demand.

 

[slugger01]

To the umpires loyalty is paying free kicks to Hawthorn

Or even truer, NOT paying frees to Collingwood !!!!

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Or even truer, NOT paying frees to Collingwood !!!!

Quoting TD (currently suspended)
Scumps

 

[Roverjg]

That's what Brayshaw has been saying then adding that "the club is bigger than any one player". So if the latter is the case then why did they pander to Harvey and make the announcement now? Wouldn't you say to Boomer, "Surely you realise the football club is the most important thing right now and as such we can't risk derailing our finals campaign with the upheaval that any delisting announcements might bring?" The excuse from Boomer that he wanted to know so his family and friends could get to what may be his last game in Melbourne is feeble - does it take that to get those people close to him to come to the game this weekend?? I think Boomer's been incredibly selfish, and NM incredibly soft by caving in to his demand.

The Club came out and announced it on Wednesday because the players in question led by Harvey wanted to know now because this week is potentially their last game in Melbourne this year. They wanted to have family and friends at the game if it was going to be their last game as their first final is most likely interstate and even if they win their second final may also be interstate. So they told the players and asked the players if they wanted a press conference to announce their pending "retirements". The players said no and said they were happy for a press release instead. So the Kangaroos were damned if they do and damned if they didn't.

 

[Sco80]

Correct well said.
The best you can say is
If a clubs supporters knew giving up a star loved player would yield a flag, they would congratulate the club on a job well done

I can understand the other 3 players but Harvey is in career best form. I can understand the anger

 

[eddiebankbalance]

Just like J.Howe. I will gladly take a pay cut for a better working environment.

 

[Sco80]

Just like J.Howe. I will gladly take a pay cut for a better working environment.

Top recruit he has been

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I can understand the other 3 players but Harvey is in career best form. I can understand the anger

Harvey is the dumb one, done in a dumb way,timing dumb too

 

[Sco80]

Harvey is the dumb one, done in a dumb way,timing dumb too

Please explain

 

[davywap]

I saw Cloke today with Buckley and the team.
They were all lunching together, very casually
He is so much a part of that group; there is not the slightest hint of sour grapes or disharmony.
It's going to be interesting to see what really happens here rather than the media driven campaign.
Even if he leaves I'm impressed with his attitude.
But at this stage he's still 100% Black and White

He was also sitting next to Buckley during the Caff & Tooves farewells the other day, didn't look like two blokes at odds with each other to be honest.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Please explain

They could easily have given him another year.
If not their inclination, only announce it after season concludes for them.
Just tell him, decisions at end of year.

 

[Pie eyed]

Cloke has a great attitude and is probably just happy to leave Collingwood for his own sake. No sour grapes but our treatment towards him has been crap. He's a credit to him to keep calm.

There's always some manufactured negative bullshit in everything you post TG.
Do you have cancer or something?
Never been associated with such a negative person.

Where do you get this crap?

 

[mike123]

Just like J.Howe. I will gladly take a pay cut for a better working environment.

He took a pay cut? Thought he only knocked back a better offer from GC

 

[mike123]

There's always some manufactured negative bullshit in everything you post TG.
Do you have cancer or something?
Never been associated with such a negative person.

Where do you get this crap?

The last 3 year might have something
To do with it.