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Claypigeon said:
I guess it depends on what you class as a slight strain, its not that simple. .. Just because its not standard procedure for joe average doesn't mean its not a viable solution in the case of an elite sportsman. .. Simple fact is that any level of injury can benefit from immobilisation and rest at appropriate times. ..

Edit: They could even be waiting for results of a scan and treating it as worse case. .. but that wouldn't change my initial premise that slings can be used for minor injuries. ..
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Except he's had the injury for well over a week now so they would know what it is and if it had been a slight strain there is no way in hell it would still be in a sling. Pretty obvious you know very little about shoulder injuries and are only guessing here.
 
Mitchell suffers minor setback
Mitchell underwent a right shoulder scope after sustaining the injury at training earlier in the month.

Carlton’s General Manager Football Operations, Steven Icke told carltonfc.com.au that the injury is likely to sideline Mitchell for 14-16 weeks.

“Following consultation with the surgeon and our medical team we determined it was in Luke’s best interests to repair the shoulder now, allowing him to play the 2011 season with a stable right shoulder,” Icke said.

“While it is disappointing for Luke, we expect him to return to full training prior to the start of the season, giving him every opportunity to be available for selection early in 2011.

Mitchell missed a large chunk of last year’s TAC Cup season with a left shoulder injury.
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Mitchell suffers minor setback

At least it wasn't the bad shoulder. :(

Small mercies. :(
 
Sin City said:
Except he's had the injury for well over a week now so they would know what it is and if it had been a slight strain there is no way in hell it would still be in a sling. Pretty obvious you know very little about shoulder injuries and are only guessing here.
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Not guessing, tts all opinion at this point isn't it. .. I'm willing to be corrected if you can show me something that states a sling is never used to rest and help repair a minor injury but I doubt you'd find something definitive to say that. .. So I'll base my opinion on my experience and knowledge until shown otherwise. .. ;)

From what I read I thought he had only had it in a sling since the 11th (no more than a few days). .. Which as it turns out was post scope, if I understand correctly. .. So it was obviously not a minor strain but I stand by my claim that a sling does not necessarily mean something major injury. .. Obviously a sling is more likely to be used the worse the injury is though. ..
 

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Claypigeon said:
Not guessing, tts all opinion at this point isn't it. .. I'm willing to be corrected if you can show me something that states a sling is never used to rest and help repair a minor injury but I doubt you'd find something definitive to say that. .. So I'll base my opinion on my experience and knowledge until shown otherwise. .. ;)

From what I read I thought he had only had it in a sling since the 11th (no more than a few days). .. Which as it turns out was post scope, if I understand correctly. .. So it was obviously not a minor strain but I stand by my claim that a sling does not necessarily mean something major injury. .. Obviously a sling is more likely to be used the worse the injury is though. ..
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Wake up FFS, he's just had surgery and is missing 14-16 weeks. Your knowledge of sports injuries is not something you should be relying on as it's non-existent.
 
Sin City said:
Wake up FFS, he's just had surgery and is missing 14-16 weeks. Your knowledge of sports injuries is not something you should be relying on as it's non-existent.
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Where did I state that his injury was minor. .. I just said a sling wasn't necessarily major. .. As it turns out this one was not minor. .. Does not change my original position one iota. ..

It's like saying someone is an alcoholic if they are drinking in a bar at 9am. .. While its more often likely the case its not necessarily always true. ..
 
Claypigeon said:
Where did I state that his injury was minor. .. I just said a sling wasn't necessarily major. .. As it turns out this one was not minor. .. Does not change my original position one iota. ..

It's like saying someone is an alcoholic if they are drinking in a bar at 9am. .. While its more often likely the case its not necessarily always true. ..
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Look, this is what you said

Claypigeon said:
It's possible they are just been rightly precautious and making sure not to turn a slight strain into a long term issue. ..
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This is what I said which should be obvious to anyone

Sin City said:
He wouldn't have his arm in a sling for a slightly strained shoulder
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This is sadly what happened.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/106178/default.aspx

Mitchell underwent a right shoulder scope after sustaining the injury at training earlier in the month.
Carlton’s General Manager Football Operations, Steven Icke told carltonfc.com.au that the injury is likely to sideline Mitchell for 14-16 weeks.
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http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/106178/default.aspx

No one puts their arm in a sling for a slight shoulder strain, not even the biggest pansies around. It's simply not required.
 
Claypigeon after Sin was done:

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broken down after he left his 2cents worth :p



I didn't read the posts...but that picture-joke was too good to pass up :cool:
 
zeeCFC said:
Claypigeon after Sin was done:

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broken down after he left his 2cents worth :p



I didn't read the posts...but that picture-joke was too good to pass up :cool:
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hehe. .. I'm a target. .. all he has to do is say "Pull!" and I'm there to be shot down ;)
 
From Colourman on TC
"Spoke to Luke Mitchell regarding his shoulder, he mentioned that the op was more precautionary to ensure he didn't do more damage to it during the season with a longer period on the sidelines; he expected to be ready for footy activities in 12 - 15 weeks. He mentioned some work was done on a loose tendon (labral or labrum i think) to prevent the shoulder popping out in future!"

Not sure what that means exactly. Could be biceps tendon which attaches to the glenoid labrum. Doesn't sound like a major shoulder recon-type problem though.
 
12 weeks is a shoulder reco

Its one thing for a midfielder to have shoulder problems.. and totally another for a KPF to have troubled shoulders.

2 by 19 is not a good sign!
 

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TheHeatleyStand said:
but unless technology advances have been made in shoulder surgery recently.... there a quite a few players who have had those recos who dont like (or cant) raise their arms above their head...
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That's what I thought at first too but then I remembered he had no trouble raising his left arm once he came back to the TAC cup last year. Hopefully this one is just as successful.
 
my mail is he did the good one before or during the finals this year.

it didnt seem to worry him in the TAC GF!
 
Sin City said:
That's what I thought at first too but then I remembered he had no trouble raising his left arm once he came back to the TAC cup last year. Hopefully this one is just as successful.
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this \nomeme :thumbsu: 9 scoring shots and grabbing everything above his head...not bad for a bloke that can't raise his arms ;)
 
Can't see what the big deal is. I'm struggling to think of any quality KP forward who hasn't had shoulder issues at some point, and often at the start of their careers. It's an occupational hazard. The important point is A) It's relatively minor and B) We managing it perfectly. He'll be fine.

Just delighted he slipped to our draft pick. We were amazingly lucky in the draft this year.

:)
 

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Kennedy went to draft camp with a dislocated shoulder.

I recall the reports stating that JK had undergone a partial shoulder reconstruction rather than the full reconstruction.

Interesting spin. ;) :D

Kennedy had another shoulder operation in the post-season.

Robbie Tarrant played ten VFL games in 2010 after having undergone four shoulder reconstructions. I hope Mitchell isn't cursed like Tarrant and Griffiths who cost these clubs top 20 picks. It isn't good new after JK, Rusling and Cam Cloke had further shoulder problems, yet Mitchell was worth the risk at pick 42. Hopefully he's as lucky as Jamison who played every game this year after having shoulder problems. Jamison doesn't have a problem getting his arms to be one of the best spoilers in the game.
parrot said:
Can't see what the big deal is. I'm struggling to think of any quality KP forward who hasn't had shoulder issues at some point, and often at the start of their careers. It's an occupational hazard. The important point is A) It's relatively minor and B) We managing it perfectly. He'll be fine.

Just delighted he slipped to our draft pick. We were amazingly lucky in the draft this year.

:)
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Who do you support?

Why aren't you listed as a Carlton supporter?

Take your spin and garbage posts elsewhere.
 
If what has been said is correct, that it is more precautionary and not a major injury, then I'm very happy to hear it. As has been mentioned here, other players have had shoulder problems and have bounced back, so hopefully Mitchell can do the same. I wasn't expecting to see much of him in the senior team in 2011 even before the injury, but I would think this would mean he will end up spending the entire year in the VFL, which will probably help his development leading into 2012.


Oh yeah, TheGeneral seems pissed off too. What's wrong TG?
 
12 to 15 weeks is not minor, any shoulder injury is not that good. so i dont expect to seem him at all in the seniors. Reason he will be able to get his aerobic fitnes up, but very little strength work on the upper body. Being a first year player, precautionary measures must be taken which will be taken. So dont expect him to play very much senior football this year, and possibly have a late start to VFL capper as well.
 

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