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Watching him on saturday - for the second time - this man is ready for AFL. I don't give a stuff if he is overweight, he uses the ball good and gets it out of the packs (something we were killed at today).

Others I'd like to see in...

Betheras
Freeborn
maybe Kinnear
 
ready

He is as ready as MCG was last year with on exception he can kick. MCG is gone, his disposal kills him along with a lack of pace. Trade him at year end.
 

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Shak isn't close to being ready yet.

McGough is a significantly better footballer and in his limited time yesterday, he was good. Deserves more time on the field.

Betheras was mediocre on Saturday.

Swan was quite good.

Freeborn is poor at VFL level and the last thing we need in, is a guy who kicks to contests.

Kinnear is an almost passable VFL standard player, but seriously, won't ever make it at AFL level.

Cam Cloke is the only player on our list who can win hitouts (and I mean properly). I say play him.
 
Originally posted by Nic
What about Richards?
Was useless IMO.

He makes Josh look like Primus. Weak, gangly and rarely got his hand on the ball. "Outstanding tap ruckman"?? Plus has little to no idea around the ground.

As soon as Cam-Clo went in the ruck, we won some hitouts.

Delist Richards at seasons end. Won't make it.
 
Yea Figy - some sense at last on this topic.
Thanks mate.
But isn't it funny how others can't see it.
Spot on about Richards he has had 3 years and is still yet to play seniors, he just is not up to. If he was he would have at least played a handful of games by now (same as Kinnear but he is just a dud). But don't delist him, throw him in the mix for a trade.
For instance Richards & Kinnear are at least worth a 7th round draft pick. Say pick 90 to 100. Hey it's gotta be better than what we have now

C-Clo at least has a brain and competes.
 
Fat Shack is coming along nicely. Might be worth playing him.

I agree with Figjam, Richards is a dud. He can't win the ruck (even McKee jumps better!), doesn't have footy smarts, doesn't chase, doesn't tackle and his disposal is average. He's gone.
 
Not that I don't trust y'all (;)), but is there really no hope for Richards? From other reports his Willy form hasn't been that bad of late and we all know how long it takes a decent ruckman to come through.:confused:
 

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Originally posted by FIGJAM
Was useless IMO.

He makes Josh look like Primus. Weak, gangly and rarely got his hand on the ball. "Outstanding tap ruckman"?? Plus has little to no idea around the ground.

As soon as Cam-Clo went in the ruck, we won some hitouts.

Delist Richards at seasons end. Won't make it.

I wouldn't mind to see Richards thrown into the deep-end this year to see if he sinks or swims.

He wasn't that bad in the center square although his around the ground efforts were poor.

I'll give him a few more weeks in the Willy 1's before calling for his de-listing.

BTW on Shacks, he was in everything in the 1st Q but his fitness got found out later on. If he was brought in to the seniors he would have to be played as a Molloy/Rup burst player.

If his got no pace or footskills(couldn't judge it on the day) don't bother.

Mullins looks like a likely type.
 
Richards has had a heap of injuries in his time at collingwood and was always going to take time to develop which has been delayed by the injuries give him time and he will mak eyou all wrong. Big mistake if we delist him at years end. He will be good.
 
Hoggy, I was willing to take your word for it until you said Kinnear. Why do so many people want to prove once again that he is a good VFL player that cannot make the grade in the AFL? It has all been tried before. He ain't good enough and should have been cut last year. I also think it is time to say to freeborne that a kid is our preferred option and he should make enquiries elsewhere. What abour Swann getting a go and my bandwagon Cameron Cloke? I would be very happy to puit Rupe in FWIW.
 
Send Kinear and Richards to Western Bulldogs.

Send Ben Johnson and (Insert Name Here) to West Coast

Send Me 2 slabs of beer, a pizza, and 19 meat pies, and all will be good :D Hey i have to eat healthy here I am on a diet of beer and pies, plus a pizza every 5 days ;)
 

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