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Bloody ninth again. :mad:

May as well start the washup now.

What needs to change for next season?
Who's trade bait?
Who's a certainty to stay?
Positives?
Negatives?
Should CC be given the chop?
Structural/Tactical Changes?
 

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I'd have more protection for the ball carrier/gatherer. The team is too quick to peel off and recieve. All too often the ball carrier is left to fend for himself and with numbers moving away from the ball if the ball spills we get hurt on the rebound.

I go back to the last 1/4 of the roos game at Subi. Josh running out under pressure and Dodd peeled off. Dodd should have laid a shepard. From that point I started watching that aspect of the game closely. Just a small thing but by giving the carrier/gatherer a bit more time might stop the turnovers.
 

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Here is what i think

Bloody ninth again.


What needs to change for next season : The coaching staff and the culture. We need to learn the Western Derbies are no longer the biggest games of the year.
Who's trade bait : Medhurst, Polak, Woods and some i can't think of
Who's a certainty to stay : List is long, who i think is certaintes is different to what the coaching staff think. Who isn't a certainy is the following : Mcmanus, Cook, Polak, Woods, Gilmore, Dunn, Mudhurst
Positives : Good finish to the year, but to be honest, it's what you would expect with our draw in that period and the players coming back.
Negatives : The list is far too long
Should CC be given the chop : Yes
Structural/Tactical Changes : We have the right foundation, more younger players through the mid-field as we are slow in the middle with belly, cooky and schoey. More time to Schammer, Peak, Dodd & give gilmore a go. Also give polak a dam full time position, not a floating forward/back.
 
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I'd have more protection for the ball carrier/gatherer. The team is too quick to peel off and recieve. All too often the ball carrier is left to fend for himself and with numbers moving away from the ball if the ball spills we get hurt on the rebound.

I go back to the last 1/4 of the roos game at Subi. Josh running out under pressure and Dodd peeled off. Dodd should have laid a shepard. From that point I started watching that aspect of the game closely. Just a small thing but by giving the carrier/gatherer a bit more time might stop the turnovers.
FFC footy department need to watch how Doggies are playing.

I think Connolly needs to have some adjustments in the "assistants" ranks
New blood new ideas.
 

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I think Connolly needs to have some adjustments in the "assistants" ranks
New blood new ideas.
New midfield and ruck coach.

The backline and forward line are working well , we are let down repeatedly out of the middle.
 

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What needs to change for next season?
We need to have a pig shooting trip before the start of next season in Blacky's ute.

Who's trade bait?
- Woods, Gilmore, Medhurst

Who's a certainty to stay?
Pav

Positives?
- Crowley
- Mundy
- Fanta Pants might be able to have an uninterupted preseason.
- Schammer after he came back from injury.

Negatives?
- Poor form at home.
- Team never really seemed to gel.
- Lack of good Shepharding accross the team.
- Haselby playing with injury most of the season, hopefully he'll be able to overcome it.
Should CC be given the chop? No - There are no better experienced coaches available.

Structural/Tactical Changes?
- One aspect of the game I think we really have to look at is our zone when the opposition kicks the ball back in. We don't play the zone well enough at the moment and seem happy to concede possession until the ball is outside 50.
- Obviously we also need to change our plans at the centre clearances, we haven't really been good enough there all season.
 

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Very astute observation ripper. But will they have the balls to do it?
I reckon. The current midfield coach was the forward coach last year and last year the forward line was suspect.

Yes. I am looking at you Malaxos.
 

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What needs to change for next season? Not a lot really we just need to get some of the boys injury free and firing.

Who's trade bait? Polak???, Medhurst???, Gilmore, Woods thats about it for me.
Who's a certainty to stay? Pavlich, Haselby, Carrs, McPharlin, Farmer.
Positives? Pav at CHF, Thornton and the kids.
Negatives? Injuries.
Should CC be given the chop? No
Structural/Tactical Changes? Wait til after the trade period.
 

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Polak would have to be trade bait. I'd keep Medhurst for another year and turn him into a HFF. Get him to run his arse off which Fremantle so kindly created for him in the 2003/4 preseason. Remember that, Bigger, Faster, Stronger. Medhurst ended up with tree trunk thighs. Hardly good for running long distances.

Once Medhurst trims down his endurance and pace should improve. I doubt we would get sufficient compensation for his talent.

Polak should definately be traded, probably for draft picks, hopefully somewhere between 4-6. We should use a 3rd round pick to get Steven Armstrong from Melbourne. They are probably looking to offload him.

With our top 3 picks we should get the following type players:

1. Small pacy midfielder 180cm~(there's a West Aussie in the draft by the name of Andrew Swallow)
2. Another small pacy midfielder 183cm~
3. Development ruckman 200cm+
 

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pinkus maximus said:
we need a full back
I agree. Rob Haddrill has had virtually the whole season out... and while I rate him as an outstanding defender... he's only 188cm, which is just not tall enough for a key defender.

I see us as being strong in the BP and HBF positions, but unless we can either:

a) clone Pav and McPharlin and have one of each of them at each end of the ground;
b) have one or two of either Polly, Murphy or Johnson develop very, very quickly over the summer to play in any of the key positions...

then we need to get out and find some KPPs.

Pav owns CHF.
McPharlin can take either FF or CHB - depending on where the young guys can play.
This means we need a FB and either a CHB or FF (McPharlin to fill the other role).

Polly, Murphy and Johnson are all good young players - filled with "potential"... it remains to be seen if they can take that next step.

We also need pacy midfielders. One small and one tall. They can be found in the draft. KPPs who are ready now (well in 6-7 months time) need to be either traded for - or preferably - developed quickly with the cattle we already have. Polly and Johnson at age 21, and Murphy at age 20... the time to step up and make a name for yourselves has arrived.
 

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rgauci said:
Polak would have to be trade bait. I'd keep Medhurst for another year and turn him into a HFF. Get him to run his arse off which Fremantle so kindly created for him in the 2003/4 preseason. Remember that, Bigger, Faster, Stronger. Medhurst ended up with tree trunk thighs. Hardly good for running long distances.

Once Medhurst trims down his endurance and pace should improve. I doubt we would get sufficient compensation for his talent.

Polak should definately be traded, probably for draft picks, hopefully somewhere between 4-6. We should use a 3rd round pick to get Steven Armstrong from Melbourne. They are probably looking to offload him.
I'd like to see it the other way around with Medhurst traded and Polak given another season. Polaks form could be attributed to an injury interrupted season where as it's hard to find an excuse for Medhurst. Like you said it would be nice to have Medhurst playing well on a HFF but I think he can only play as a small leading forward inside 50. He looks lost up the ground. Either trade him for a talll quick midfielder, or preferably trade him for a draft pick and use that on a midfielder. We have plenty of players we could use to fill the HFF- Headland, Browne, Peake and Crowley, or we could rotate Bell, Hasleby and J. Carr through there when they're not on the ball because we need pace inside the centre square.

Is Steven Armstrong any better than Andrew Browne? Both are short quick midfielders and I was impressed with Browney last season and if it wasn't for injury I think he would have played plenty of footy this year. If we are going to trade for someone to play in the midfield I would prefer them to be 185cm+.
 

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medhurst as trade bait, now thats the funniest thing ive heard all year.
you couldnt give him away.



ps. on second thought it aint the funniest thing ive heard all year, knocking you bunch of losers out of the finals is..................
 

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Several sides would be willing to trade their 2nd round pick for a guy who averages close to 2 goals a game.
 

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dominguez said:
Is Steven Armstrong any better than Andrew Browne? Both are short quick midfielders and I was impressed with Browney last season and if it wasn't for injury I think he would have played plenty of footy this year. If we are going to trade for someone to play in the midfield I would prefer them to be 185cm+.

No, I dont think so. I really rate Browne, would love him at the eagles. Armstrong is nothing special and has been struggling in the VFL.
 

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No, I dont think so. I really rate Browne, would love him at the eagles. Armstrong is nothing special and has been struggling in the VFL.
how about rosa for for browne then. :D
Can browne be put on the rookie list
 

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wehavethepassion said:
I think Connolly needs to have some adjustments in the "assistants" ranks
New blood new ideas.
I could not agree more, what do the following all have in common;
Malaxos, Waterman, Eastaugh, Spalding, Broadbridge, Hinchen, Buhagiar = East Fremantle "Jobs for the Boys"
Realisticaly if Freo cannot get a better Ruck coach than Eastaugh or skills coach than Spalding there has to be something wrong, neither were any good at the craft they are trying to teach. The only two I would keep are Broadbridge and Waterman and give the rest the flick :(
 

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how about rosa for for browne then. :D
Can browne be put on the rookie list


I would actually consider that. Although Rosa has shown abit, he has some questionable attributes at the moment. If only brown was 189cm like Rosa. Then he would be a real player.

And Browne can be put on the rookie list. Although I think clubs would pick him up before you could do that.
 

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Ashley Prescott is being pursued by Fremantle and atleast one of our assistants have been told to look at other options for next season and will probably coach in the WAFL next season (possibly Perth).
 
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darrend05 said:
medhurst as trade bait, now thats the funniest thing ive heard all year.
you couldnt give him away.



ps. on second thought it aint the funniest thing ive heard all year, knocking you bunch of losers out of the finals is..................
something funnier this week coming last years premiers thrashed the end of a flash in the pan era
 
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Please tell me it Malaxos nad he is going to take O'donnell and Eastaugh with him??

If we can get Peter German as well then malaxos can go to Claremont and Odonnell to subi and eastaugh to perth.
 

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Freo Big Fella said:
Bloody ninth again. :mad:

May as well start the washup now.

What needs to change for next season?
Who's trade bait?
Who's a certainty to stay?
Positives?
Negatives?
Should CC be given the chop?
Structural/Tactical Changes?
If it makes you feel any better.... you finished 10th not 9th ;) At least you'll get a better draft pick :(
 
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