Mad Monday...

[Tatts22]

How ******* angry are you? I know I'm angry. Those fools condoning paedophilia make me so angry. How dare anyone dress up as a sex offender and under age girl. Unless they're Jimmy Bartel, because we can't hate Jimmy.

I mean, **** me. Is this where our media is at? Roll out the 24 hour bulletin - two average footballers whose names most people don't know dressed up in a stupid costume on the day they're meant to but overstepped the mark.

I'm not saying it's right, but the media getting up on their high horses just makes me feel dizzy.

The St Kilda "School girl" was not an underage girl.

 

[Tulip]

The St Kilda "School girl" was not an underage girl.

At the time of dressing up she was thought to be, it's only now we know that it was just a cry for attention.

 

[Trav 20]

Another triumph for the professionally outraged.

 

[Tatts22]

At the time of dressing up she was thought to be, it's only now we know that it was just a cry for attention.

No we always knew she was older than 16

 

[Lester Burnham]

Any ripper stories from Mad Mondays of old for the younger members around here?

St Kilda players hijacked a tram and drove it down the tracks. As far as I know this story has never made the papers.

 

[charcoalchicken]

Sorry to go off topic,
but I don't see the point off mad Monday, why should players be able to celebrate not making the finals. They are employed until Grand Final day, so they should be training until Grand Final day. They get paid 100s of thousands of dollars, and they get an early paid holiday for performing under par. Ridiculous, I would make them turn up for work until the football year finishes for everyone.

heil hitler!

 

[Tulip]

No we always knew she was older than 16

So why did Ricky lose his accreditation?

 

[Tatts22]

So why did Ricky lose his accreditation?

Because he's an idiot. If she was under age he'd be in jail.

We knew about her a long time before her involvement with Ricky Nixon came out - she was involved with a player first & she was 16 then - so everyone knew by the time she was with Ricky she was over 16

 

[the_interloper]

Maybe the lads should have dressed up as this couple instead.

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That's Christine and Anthony Foster in case you were wondering. They are anti-abuse campaigners.

One of their daughters committed suicide, whilst another is now disabled after being hit by a car because of her drug and alcohol issues.

Both were abused as children.

Yeah…paedophelia is hilarious.

That's a ****ing terrible idea, hang your head in shame. There's no way anyone would know who the hell they are!

 

[Rod Stroker]

Yet another MB thread fowled up with SRP content... sigh

 

[bjgoddard18]

Who is the white supremacist? There's the difference and how I can defend it. Because I see the joke being Rolf Harris. He's the pathetic disgusting joke of a person who's now a dress up costume denigrating him. It's not a tasteful joke but it's still one.

Would it be acceptable to broadcast to the community as a gag, certainly not. But I don't think it means we should get outraged because two guys are having a joke between a group of mates.

Nope, they were fully aware the photos would be up on instagram and therefore the public.
You're calling Rolf Harris a 'joke of a person' because of the horrendous acts he commited to say therefore it's a joke what Terlich and Georgiou did. By that logic you'd have no problem with them dressing as Hitler and a jew because Hitler was a joke of a person because of the acts he committed.
All I think is necessary is for the players to apologise but what ticks me off is people who just scream 'but we have the right to offend' in order to defend rather than look at the context of the incident.

 

[The_Reaper]

Your not taking into account the historical significance of blackface.

In the United States

 

[master bate]

Nope, they were fully aware the photos would be up on instagram and therefore the public.
You're calling Rolf Harris a 'joke of a person' because of the horrendous acts he commited to say therefore it's a joke what Terlich and Georgiou did. By that logic you'd have no problem with them dressing as Hitler and a jew because Hitler was a joke of a person because of the acts he committed.
All I think is necessary is for the players to apologise but what ticks me off is people who just scream 'but we have the right to offend' in order to defend rather than look at the context of the incident.

He put on his private instagram to be shared with friends, that it has gone public doesn't mean he was willingly showing off for the public. The teaching with social media is don't put anything up that you wouldn't be happy to share which is the advice to avoid trouble. But it's a old fashioned view of technology. Just because you put something out for your friends to see on social media and others can see it doesn't actually mean you shared it with the world.

I simply see Georgiou as the girl being part of the overall satire of Rolf Harris. Of course it's not a tasteful thing but overall I find enough humour in it to see it as a joke and not as glorifying pedophiles. I don't believe you could do that with Hitler and a Jew. Yet at the same time I don't see outrage when people post those Hitler mock videos of the scene from the film with Hitler yelling and screaming. So of course I am considering context.

Slow drivers, smelly people, fat people who invade your space on trains, watching Melbourne play football. There are plenty of things that are offensive. Yet it's tolerance that sets us apart.

 

[Whiskers]

How desperate and pathetic are some Hawthorn fans getting around here? They want to target Geelong/Bartel any chance they get no matter how far stretched it is.

 

[PenAndPaper]

The amount of times people have dressed up as OJ Simpson, Jack the Ripper, Osama Bin Laden and Hitler just to name a few yet no mention would be made of it. I'm sure none of you would be crying if these Melbourne players dressed up as Jack the Ripper...

How desperate and pathetic are some Hawthorn fans getting around here? They want to target Geelong/Bartel any chance they get no matter how far stretched it is.

Its more so defending Terlich and Georgiou by relating to a similar case with similar controversy.

 

[gutsroy]

scrolled through three pages of this thread looking for a couple of funny pictures.
thoroughly disappointed.

Top avatar.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Yet another MB thread fowled up with SRP content... sigh

More initials please! Make it even more difficult to understand.

 

[Tragic sainter]

In the United States

So the swasticka is fine to wear In australia?

 

[FuManchu]

So why did Ricky lose his accreditation?

Something to do with poor judgement and a conflict of interest with one of his players and the girl. Besides, a 45yo and a 16/17 yo girl is just plain creepy.

 

[basashi]

A costume is worn for comic effect. The category of humor varies:
- contrast or juxtaposition of the costume wearer and the subject
- topical reference to controversy
- surprise caused by high quality / accuracy of costume
- irony
- characterized playful sexualisation of a profession

Wearing a costume does not imply an endorsement of the person or thing the costume seeks to portray. Specifically, it does not imply either an endorsement of, or a flippant attitude towards any wrong doing undertaken by the portrayed person or thing.

Dressing as Rolf Harris does not imply a flippant attitude to paedophilia any more than dressing as a zombie implies a flippant attitude to murder.

Any member of the media, club administration or the broader community who does not understand this should be offered counselling.

People participating in fun, end of year activities should not have their behaviour regulated by ignorant, unthinking and unsophisticated people who falsely interpret of offence.

 

[Richard Pryor]

So the swasticka is fine to wear In australia?

World War 2. It's right there in the name. Don't get me wrong, I think blackface should certainly be avoided, but suggesting that it is racist in all contexts because of exported US historical baggage is silly. dressing up as Lebron James in blackface is ill-advised, but not racist.

Hardly anyone would know or care if something was offensive in, say, Nepalese culture, so I guess my distaste for consideration of US taboo's is more because it is disproportionate to the treatment other cultures get from the majority of people than the fact that they shouldn't be considered at all.

 

[SBYM]

A costume is worn for comic effect. The category of humor varies:
- contrast or juxtaposition of the costume wearer and the subject
- topical reference to controversy
- surprise caused by high quality / accuracy of costume
- irony
- characterized playful sexualisation of a profession

Just wondering which category you think this case falls into?

As I see it, and using the above paradigm, the only possibility is the second one, meaning that Terlich and Georgiou were really making a comment on a recent example of sexual abuse in order to take a stand against it in general within the wider community?

As I really see it, your first comment is correct. A costume is worn for comic effect, and given my belief their efforts were aimed simply at a cheap laugh, I fail to see how it could be anything other than a flippant attitude to a grown man preying on young girls. As I said in a previous post…hilarious.

In any case, what I think means little since you were also right in that they shouldn't have their behaviour (to a certain extent) regulated by others…being decent human beings should do that for them. What a shame...

They're both adults and can do what they like. Doesn't stop me thinking they're a pair of dickheads but...

 

[Substance]

Your not taking into account the historical significance of blackface.

Historical significance is irrelevant to equality. At some point the past needs to not be taken in to account in order for everyone to be treated as equals.

 

[LANGFORDandSON]

scrolled through three pages of this thread looking for a couple of funny pictures.
thoroughly disappointed.

Well, I hope you're all happy with yourselves.

 

[FRUMPY]

Your not taking into account the historical significance of blackface.

we all know about the historical significance of blackface but painting yourself black to look like a celebrity for a dress up has no significance to the blackface/racial past. it is a dress up FFS. Do you really think dressing up like michael jackson or lebron james and painting your face black is in relaity a racial taunt at black people and a laugh at the blackface history?