Unsolved Madeleine McCann - New Leads Being Reported

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johnymac1

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So your kid goes missing in a foreign land, what do you need to ?

1/ Call for help.
2/ Go looking for the kid, organise searching.
3/ Make a photo, so searchers know who to look for.
4/ Protect the welfare of remaining children.
5/ Assist authorities in finding out what happened.

I would suggest they did none of the above, or what the McCanns did was half hearted

1/ Some suggest they delayed calling the police by 30 to 40 minutes. one of the Tapas 9 alerted staff then Police
2/ There is very little evidence that Gerry or Kate actually went searching! Kate remained in the apartment and Gerry's movements are Vague.
3/ They had the Resort workers produce a photo, but it was about 6 months out of date.
4/ The twins weren't disturbed from their sleep by all of the commotion. When Kate went to tell the others, she left the Twins alone, open for Abduction!
5/ The McCanns insisted that someone entered the apartment via a window, there was no evidence the widow was forced. They and them alone insisted that Maddie was abducted. For all honesty in the early stages, she could have just wandered off, as the sliding door was left unlocked. They spent a lot of time getting their story straight. they wrote out at least three versions of the time line

It doesn't necessary mean the parents did something wrong, they just don't want you to know the truth'
 

SquiffyRae

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We also have the benefit of hindsight while looking at the situation as calm outsiders, unaffected by what was happening.

I think a lot of the time people making weird decisions are seen as suspicious because we know we wouldn't do that but we're also thinking logically with all the time in the world to think about it. Just as an example:

"Some suggest they delayed calling the police by 30 to 40 minutes" - unless that's confirmed we can't really take it as gospel

"The twins weren't disturbed from their sleep by all of the commotion. When Kate went to tell the others, she left the Twins alone, open for Abduction!" - tunnel-vision. If you come back and see your 3 year old kid is gone and you think they've been abducted you're gonna be thinking about the missing kid and telling others. Kate sees Maddie's gone, goes "gotta tell Gerry" and runs straight back out because she's panicking and it didn't really cross her mind she was kinda leaving her other kids open for abduction by racing off

"They and them alone insisted that Maddie was abducted" - this is also not uncommon. Abductions aren't rare but probably rarer than most people think but for parents it's one of the single most terrifying prospects out there. I wouldn't say it's crazy to think a parent seeing their young child is missing would jump to the worst case scenario first
 

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I dunno if it's just me but I find it weird many people still have this strange I wanna almost say compulsion that the parents/friends must have been involved. The further we go, the more evidence comes out that supports the idea that they had nothing to do with it but people still cling to it because I dunno their feelings or whatever. Even if Christian B is found guilty, there'll still be some who think the parents are guilty.

I agree with owen that it's like most conspiracy theories. The average person is terrible at keeping secrets. The more people involved, the more likely it is that someone will eventually crack and either mess their story up, reveal something they shouldn't or just flat out crack altogether and tell the full story. But we haven't seen that in this case. 7 people and not one of them in 15 years has said anything that has made anyone want to go and cross-check details with other earlier stories.

The parental negligence angle is a huge red herring. Everyone going "wow I can't believe they'd do that that's so suspicious." Sure but it's only suspicious because sadly in this case something bad happened. I'm sure everyone does some stuff that technically we're not supposed to do but it's not a problem because nothing bad ever happens. But if something bad does happen, you better believe you're getting absolutely dragged for doing the same thing you've done numerous times before because this time it went wrong
Some people just love the conspiracies. There aren't a lot of topics in here that don't delve into conspiracy and it's always the usual suspects.
 

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owen87

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It doesn't necessary mean the parents did something wrong, they just don't want you to know the truth'
I’m quite confident they did something wrong. I just happen to think it was more parental negligence than it was orchestrating the kidnapping and/or sale of their child.

They’d been drinking, they were almost definitely in a state of shock and/or panic. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that they may not do exactly the things someone would consider best practice.

My suspicion has always been that the schedule for checking on the kids was a little less consistent and timely than has been indicated, and that it wouldn’t surprise me that the kids had been knocked out with phenergan or some such to facilitate the parents having a night on the piss.

Negligent? Yes. Criminal? No.
 

FR0GGY

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I’m quite confident they did something wrong. I just happen to think it was more parental negligence than it was orchestrating the kidnapping and/or sale of their child.

They’d been drinking, they were almost definitely in a state of shock and/or panic. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that they may not do exactly the things someone would consider best practice.

My suspicion has always been that the schedule for checking on the kids was a little less consistent and timely than has been indicated, and that it wouldn’t surprise me that the kids had been knocked out with phenergan or some such to facilitate the parents having a night on the piss.

Negligent? Yes. Criminal? No.
Absolutely, I had a situation recently where one of my 4 old girls fell over and convulsed for a few seconds.
I watched it happen yet 10 minutes later I had a hard time describing/remembering what actually happened to the ambos.
Panic/shock does strange things to you.
 

johnymac1

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I wasn't referring to you jmac but now I'll have to go through your posts to see if you're a conspiracist! :p
I always slip in the line about the police files. Its rare for a civilian to see the evidence gathered in an active case.
There is 10,000 pages of police evidence out there on the internet. and people sill listen to the dribble from the tabloids.
I side with the Portuguese police on this case, something dodgy went on.

The lead detective is in the News again, he's published a new book Titled "Maddie"
 

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