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USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

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From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

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Geelong_Sicko said:
I don't know. She has dropped the ball at least once, where she went against a vote that would have embargoed military trade between the U.S and Israel because she thought defensive weapons weren't going to kill anyone in Gaza.

She dropped that ball badly in failing to realise a strong shield enables the sword to kill and kill and kill again. She f*cked up and I hope she was made to realise that.

I still think she is the last, best hope that the United States has before the sun goes down forever on that nation.
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If AOC is the only hope we are in some strife brother
 
awaremind said:
Has she broken free of her handlers is the big question , does she call her own shots or does she do as she’s told.
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This is a rhetorical question, according to your latest post.
Which reinforces the fact that you're making a claim...
So what's your claim??!?!?!?!
Can't you think for yourself? Who's handling you? Aren't you able to have an opinion unless it's given to you?!?
 
awaremind said:
I don’t hate Greta thunberg or what causes she’s stood for btw. While I’m not a climate alarmist I do think we should do our 100% best to manage earth and its ecosystems and resources to the best of our ability, which isn’t really the case presently. I’m pro Palestinian statehood and self determination , justice etc .
Why would I actually hate her
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You're arguing heroism for podcasters, right? For their take on Israel, right?
Do you have any position let alone concept on Thunberg's unpaid, non-profit actions in the last 12 months??!?



I literally linked you an article explaining the most recent situation... And you ignored it because ?!?
Why do I have to fight with you, to get you to support Thunberg, while you praise Owens for her 'bravery'????
 

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CM86 said:
Trump is the US President. Putin has invaded Ukraine. Genocide is being redefined. People like you view NATO as the enemy.
What hope are you looking for?!
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Claims to be concerned about climate change and Palestinian statehood (lol what a joke) but has spent hundreds of posts on this topic cheer squading for people who not only do nothing about either of those things, but actually bring everything related to those issues, backwards

Must be another centrist
 
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Cyg1992 said:
This is the most fast food, commercialized, tacky and obvious sales pitch of a supposed martyr's death and mourning I've ever seen.

Leave it to someone like trump to turn a supposed friend's death and mourning, into a marketing and profit driven campaign.
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Well seeing as people have been talking about "handlers" for some reason Kirk is a classic.
Groomed by very wealthy, very ideological people to spread Christian nationalism.
I very much doubt the grift of the propaganda stops because he dies.
The handlers just work out how to reconfigure it and no-one knows how to turn literally anything into an opportunity to grift like Trump.
 
Cyg1992 said:
Claims to be concerned about climate change and Palestinian statehood (lol what a joke) but has spent hundreds of posts on this topic Cheers squading for people who not only do nothing about either of those things, but actually being everything related to those issues, backwards

Must be another centrist
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I think sea lion is the new accepted term I like most. It actually includes "centrist" in its urban dictionary definition as one of the defining traits.

Been watching them come and go since Trump 1.0 and have always wondered if they are bots or there is a special 4 Chan school or somewhere. Because they're all the same. Can pick them in one post now.
Just don't reply to them. It's the only thing that works. Drive yourself crazy if you get drawn into their game.
 
E Shed said:
Well seeing as people have been talking about "handlers" for some reason Kirk is a classic.
Groomed by very wealthy, very ideological people to spread Christian nationalism.
I very much doubt the grift of the propaganda stops because he dies.
The handlers just work out how to reconfigure it and no-one knows how to turn literally anything into an opportunity to grift like Trump.
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Absolutely right.

And the people talking about handlers yet holding an obviously handled propaganda horn like Kirk in high regard, clearly have had handlers their entire life themselves.
 
E Shed said:
I think sea lion is the new accepted term I like most. It actually includes "centrist" in its urban dictionary definition as one of the defining traits.

Been watching them come and go since Trump 1.0 and have always wondered if they are bots or there is a special 4 Chan school or somewhere. Because they're all the same. Can pick them in one post now.
Just don't reply to them. It's the only thing that works. Drive yourself crazy if you get drawn into their game.
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They're basically people who have been watching Ben Shapiro and the like for a solid decade now.
They've been misguided into thinking they've acquired some formal education in doing so.
 
Cyg1992 said:
Absolutely right.

And the people talking about handlers yet holding an obviously handled propaganda horn like Kirk in high regard, clearly have had handlers their entire life themselves.
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Cyg1992 said:
They're basically people who have been watching Ben Shapiro and the like for a solid decade now.
They've been misguided into thinking they've acquired some formal education in doing so.
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Try Dave Smith? Scott Horton, Mike Benz, Kiriakou ( the Abu graib torture whistle blower). Dave smith and Ben Shapiro hate each other.

I’d identify as a libertarian , socially moderate and economically socialist ( to a point)- but most of all anti- war foreign policy realist.
 
awaremind said:
Try Dave Smith? Scott Horton, Mike Benz, Kiriakou ( the Abu graib torture whistle blower). Dave smith and Ben Shapiro hate each other.

I’d identify as a libertarian , socially moderate and economically socialist ( to a point)- but most of all anti- war foreign policy realist.
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I don't know most of those names as I'm not that curious about the grift sphere but Dave Smith proudly voted for trump.

He may have conveniently changed his mind now but the writings were on the wall to anyone who had a pulse.
He was happily making jokes about a woman's laugh and calling her dumb a year ago.

If you are anti war and in any way, shape or form economically socialist then you certainly aren't doing yourself any favours consuming the right wing, conservative grifters.

What's happening in the United states now is the exact opposite of that, but you're talking about Thunbergs handlers.

Smells like BS or confusion at best mate.
Take a break from Rumble.
 

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Cyg1992 said:
I don't know most of those names as I'm not that curious about the grift sphere but Dave Smith proudly voted for trump.

He may have conveniently changed his mind now but the writings were on the wall to anyone who had a pulse.
He was happily making jokes about a woman's laugh and calling her dumb a year ago.

If you are anti war and in any way, shape or form economically socialist then you certainly aren't doing yourself any favours consuming the right wing, conservative grifters.

What's happening in the United states now is the exact opposite of that, but you're talking about Thunbergs handlers.

Smells like BS or confusion at best mate.
Take a break from Rumble.
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He’s a comedian, and Kamala really was mediocre , especially for someone as credentialed as she is. As a satirist you can’t attack him for doing his Job. I hate that trump is in charge of an antiestablishment ( in theory ) movement , there is
Loads of evidence he’s been an important beast in the swamp he promised to drain but didn’t !
 
Cyg1992 said:
They're basically people who have been watching Ben Shapiro and the like for a solid decade now.
They've been misguided into thinking they've acquired some formal education in doing so.
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That’s the thing that annoys me the most. Acting like they are intelligent when they don’t have any idea of even the most basic rules of logic in a debate or choose to ignore them while asserting in their posts they’re arguing in good faith.
It’s like listening to an arrogant child who thinks they have the wood on you.
Specious and disingenuous.
 
Cyg1992 said:
I don't know most of those names as I'm not that curious about the grift sphere but Dave Smith proudly voted for trump.

He may have conveniently changed his mind now but the writings were on the wall to anyone who had a pulse.
He was happily making jokes about a woman's laugh and calling her dumb a year ago.

If you are anti war and in any way, shape or form economically socialist then you certainly aren't doing yourself any favours consuming the right wing, conservative grifters.

What's happening in the United states now is the exact opposite of that, but you're talking about Thunbergs handlers.

Smells like BS or confusion at best mate.
Take a break from Rumble.
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I have a drinking game when reading this thread where I take a drink everytime I read the word grifter… fun game 🤣
 

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