Magic Mushrooms

[Roos4eva]

The comedown for Magic Mushrooms is awesome, I'll never forget looking at the moon from my room through the curtains for ages whilst listening to some music, it was like watching a cartoon.

Good, good times.

 

[St 07]

How would one purchase themselves some of these vile tasting little morsels ?

I'm wondering about this situation too

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I'm wondering about this situation too

why purchase what you can get for free?

 

[Butane]

There is no such thing as pure MDMA in Australia(Ok very very rarely). I can guarantee what you had in caps was a dirtyish greyish colour. Don't get me wrong, this stuff is still very clean MDMA but it's not 'pure' MDMA.

I did some work for a few festivals over this summer and a few of us were briefed on what drugs were around at the time - medical reasons(no we didn't get to trial them). I know the two main MD caps that were floating around and neither were pure(but I'm told just as good).

 

[RoosterLad]

why purchase what you can get for free?

No shit... they are mushrooms fellas... God creates them.

 

[Judd4PM]

No way would I go picking mushies. Its far too dangerous for the inexperienced. One bad one and you are fooked!!

As for the MDMA caps and not being 100% pure, well that goes without saying. Unless you have cooked it up yourself you are never going to get it straight out of the kitchen.

Some shite flippers getting around Perth at the moment. Dont touch the White Doves, nothing but placebo's.

 

[Mario the Lothario]

No way would I go picking mushies. Its far too dangerous for the inexperienced. One bad one and you are fooked!!

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/magic_mushrooms_aunz/magic_mushrooms_aunz2.shtml

In my experince Psilocybe Cubensis and Psilocybe subcubensis (Golden Tops) are the most common variants found commonly in the Victorian Highlands, paticularly around the Daylesford/Trentham area.

Dry some out, collect the spores on some paper and store them for an endless supply.

Don't play with these things, take too many and be prepared to strap yourself in for a psychotic episode.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

There is no such thing as pure MDMA in Australia(Ok very very rarely). I can guarantee what you had in caps was a dirtyish greyish colour. Don't get me wrong, this stuff is still very clean MDMA but it's not 'pure' MDMA.

If you can cook its a piece of piss, go buy some cough lollies and away you go. I can't cook though, so I'll take your information on board.

 

[The Passenger]

of crouse the caps aren't pure. to be able to get a non-natural pure drug of any form is a sign that there really truly is a god.

the powder itself is fairly white which is a good sign. also the taste of mdma is so bitter. it's very distinguishable. you can pick up pretty quickly how pure it is. although if you've been drinking beer it can be a bit harder because 1) there is a bitter taste already in your mouth and 2) if your a bit pissed your more likely to just want to believe it's more pure than it really is

i'm not naive enough though to think they are pure. but for simplicity sake i just call it pure mdma. in any case it's far far more pure than what goes in a e tablet, which could be a little as 25-30% mdma IMO....

no way i'd ever touch pills after these though. for $5 extra ($25 v $30) everything is so much better, especially a much easier comedown (although i don't really get them anyway, but mates who do get them don't cop it on the caps)....

i've always been a firm believer that the "other" shit in a pill is more responsible for a comedown than mdma causing a lack of serotonin. and since swim discovered caps this belief has only been strengthened.

 

[Mario the Lothario]

i'm not naive enough though to think they are pure. but for simplicity sake i just call it pure mdma. in any case it's far far more pure than what goes in a e tablet, which could be a little as 25-30% mdma IMO....

More likely 0%.

Pure, or high quality MDMA pills/caps/powder are literally haute cuisine these days.

One good indicator of a pills contents of MDMA is that you will note a dimishing physiological response after taking them on a consistent basis, due to the lack of time allowed for serotonin replenishment. Most of the idiots out there state the pills no longer have any MDMA and this is the reason that pills aren't working anymore.

If you're chewing down several bikkies a week and getting high, then you aren't consuming MDMA.

 

[The Passenger]

More likely 0%.

Pure, or high quality MDMA pills/caps/powder are literally haute cuisine these days.

possibly. and any e user should be aware of how cut down the product is that they are buying. all sorts of binding agents, as well as other cheaper drugs can be in a tablet.

but i wouldn't think too many dealers are putting 0 mdma in their tablets. although i'm sure it happens a bit it wouldn't take long for word to spread and they could find themselves in a lot of hot water for ripping off the wrong people.

i agree 100% though that quality stuff is not easy to find and the difference in quality is masssssive.

i worked at homebake in december in sydney on the bars with a mate and some guy inadvertantly handed over 2 e's to my mate (they were taped to a $50 bill). they were of such low quality that there is no doubt this guy was ripped off.

conversely about 3 weeks earlier i was with the same lad in newcastle. we had nothing on us so decided to ask around this pub. we scored four and they were absolutely stunning. easily the best pills i've taken and the only pills i've taken in my post-cap world that i would consider up to standard.

both were taken with about 2-3 week gaps so tolerance build up wasn't an issue for either.

One good indicator of a pills contents of MDMA is that you will note a dimishing physiological response after taking them on a consistent basis, due to the lack of time allowed for serotonin replenishment. Most of the idiots out there state the pills no longer have any MDMA and this is the reason that pills aren't working anymore.

tolerance is an issue with any drug. acid more so than probably just about any other drug. in fact it is essentially pointless taking acid the next day after a trip. last summer i put this theory to the test and the next day took 2-3 times what i normally would and got just about nothing but a bit of rush and vibing, but definetaly no hallucinations.

mdma is no different (although not as big as tolerance build up) and your hundred per cent correct here:

If you're chewing down several bikkies a week and getting high, then you aren't consuming MDMA.

the lag time of mdma is supposedly about 3 days. if you up your dosage on the second day you'll still get there, but there's a fair chance you'll just be chasing the dragon.

doing three days would require one to basically not come off it the entire time and even then it wouldn't be a release of seretonin, rather just a person who's completely fried their brain's....

 

[Mario the Lothario]

Shulgin has shown in his research that MDMA activity is virtually non existent after seven consecutive daily doses. A week is the minimal time to wait between dosage, longer waiting periods result in exponentially stronger experiences.

Tolerance studies also support differences in mechanisms of action. In one study, MDMA was consumed at 9:00 a.m. each day for almost a week (120 milligrams the first day and 160 milligrams each subsequent day) and by the fifth day there were no effects from the drug except for some mydriasis. And even this appeared to be lost on the sixth day. At this point of total tolerance, there was consumed (on day #7, at 9:00 a.m.) 120 milligrams of MDA and the response to it was substantially normal with proper chronology, teeth clench, and at most only a slight decrease in mental change. A complete holiday from any drug for another 6 days led to the reversal of this tolerance, in that 120 milligrams of MDMA had substantially the full expected effects.

The moral of the story is, if you manage to get your hands on some good MDMA, save it for special occasions.

Special occasions that are preferably months apart.

 

[The Passenger]

Shulgin has shown in his research that MDMA activity is virtually non existent after seven consecutive daily doses. A week is the minimal time to wait between dosage, longer waiting periods result in exponentially stronger experiences.

i wouldn't even want to think about seven consecutive daily doses...

even though your not getting the serotonin high in subsequent days your body still feels ****ed but not in a good way. kinda just drained - almost like the drug has morphed into anti-MDMA.

The moral of the story is, if you manage to get your hands on some good MDMA, save it for special occasions.

Special occasions that are preferably months apart.

temptation is a bitch. but i'm nothing more than a weekend warrior so i'm still getting most of the effects after recovering through the week. and even then it's not like it's every single weekend or even every second weekend. i definetaly don't have the self control to keep them months apart though...

but even still i've noticed the dosages required are getting higher and higher even with breaks.

i've been on and off taking stuff (maybe 4 or 5 times a year and never twice in a weekend) for about 3-4 years but in the last 6 months the intake has grown a lot. and what i need now compared to September has probably doubled or close to it. I'm at that point were 2 gets me that little bit more ****ed than 1 would've back then, but 1 is definitely not going to be enough.

any chance you've got a link to that report?? i love reading and chatting about this sort of shit. it's the product of growing up in a completely anti-drug household.

 

[Mario the Lothario]

temptation is a bitch. but i'm nothing more than a weekend warrior so i'm still getting most of the effects after recovering through the week. and even then it's not like it's every single weekend or even every second weekend. i definetaly don't have the self control to keep them months apart though...

but even still i've noticed the dosages required are getting higher and higher even with breaks.

i've been on and off taking stuff (maybe 4 or 5 times a year and never twice in a weekend) for about 3-4 years but in the last 6 months the intake has grown a lot. and what i need now compared to September has probably doubled or close to it. I'm at that point were 2 gets me that little bit more ****ed than 1 would've back then, but 1 is definitely not going to be enough.

You are stressing your receptors. My advice is to have longer breaks between consumption. I rarely if ever take drugs any more but when I did, I followed the research literature, used MDMA 4 or 5 times a year and the effects where magical on every occasion.

any chance you've got a link to that report?? i love reading and chatting about this sort of shit. it's the product of growing up in a completely anti-drug household.

The article in question also contains details relating to synthesis and I think it's irresponsible to place a link with that information in a forum that is frequented by minors. If you're over 18, and smart enough, you can find it.

 

[The Passenger]

You are stressing your receptors. My advice is to have longer breaks between consumption. I rarely if ever take drugs any more but when I did, I followed the research literature, used MDMA 4 or 5 times a year and the effects where magical on every occasion.

me and self control don't go hand in hand.

The article in question also contains details relating to synthesis and I think it's irresponsible to place a link with that information in a forum that is frequented by minors. If you're over 18, and smart enough, you can find it.

duly noted

 

[Karl Pilkington]

I do maybe 2 or 3 a year - I went through a big honeymoon period when I was 21 though.

I don't care what anyone says, they're shitter now.

 

[fairdinkum]

I do maybe 2 or 3 a year - I went through a big honeymoon period when I was 21 though.

I don't care what anyone says, they're shitter now.

The mushies?

 

[Karl Pilkington]

The mushies?

Nah we were talking about googs

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

just read ab out the mushroom ban. it was in response to the death of a 17 year old french girl who jumped off a bridge while under the influence....

which from what i can gather is the second reported death in the Netherlands since mushrooms became legal in 1994.

what a ****ing joke to ban it...

just re-infornces what i said above in regards to acid and peoples feelings towards the drug which they have absolutely no idea about.

It's true, they are banned. Good thing is though you can still get them from the smart shops.

I was there less than a week ago and got them from a couple of different places. Most joints have stopped selling them, but our tour guide on one of the days pointed us in the right direction.

They were illegal to sell them in dried form, but now it's also been changed to include fresh as well. But some of the smart shops have got fresh ones left and they're pretty much clearing out their stock. The police have pretty much turned a blind eye though and they haven't enforced anything just yet.

Great news though is that the truffles are still legal to buy! Had these a couple of times while I was over there and they were pretty fun. Best place to go is a little shop called Innerspace which is on Spuistraat (can't remember the number, but it's not far from the town square). It's got a picture of a mushroom out the front on the sign.

Hopefully when you go there (and I urge you to, I've been told by a lot of people this is the best place of all to get them) you get the tall darkish guy with shaved head (think he had glasses too). Really cool guy and if you get talking to him enough and don't act like just another tourist trying to get high, he'll reward you with some of his own fresh batch out of his pocket haha. So yeah, hopefully he's there. Went in there a couple of times and the other shop keepers said that they were out and all that trying to say that there's nothing left, it's illegal etc. So it all depends on how you act. Don't just go in there and ask for mushrooms... Get talking to them, tell them what you'd like to experience, where you should go for the trip and all that. They'll be very helpful and probably hook you up with some.

But definitely start off with the truffles anyway (only place I could find them was Innerspace as well). They call them Philosophers Stones. Technically not mushrooms, but they contain psilocybin which is the active ingredient. They were great fun (make sure you get a bar of chocolate too... Helps chewing them and also enhances the trip!) and had an awesome time on them... Felt awesome and everything seemed to be funny. Were laughing all day

Next night got some real mushrooms from the guy. Got a bag of them (Columbian strain. Could have got the Hawiian strain but they're too strong for my liking) and also got some Space Trips (capsules with herbs and shit. Also contain Hawiian Baby Woodrose seeds which I've always wanted to try anyway) to mix with. Took half bag of the mushrooms and 2 of the capsules just before we went back to the hotel room. They were A LOT more visual than the truffles. So yeah, we just chilled out in the hotel room (4 of us all had the mushrooms but I was the only to have the capsules too) and talked shit all night. I was sooo grateful that I had my iPod with me though. Sounds cliched, but listening to Dark Side of the Moon while on psychoactives (done it before, but this was the best experience) is the best thing ever. I've done mushrooms before this, but that was by far the best time.

So yeah, make sure you go to Innerspace

Also, I've always wanted to do it (grow my own) but never really felt confident enough. After getting some advice from this guy at the shop though I've decided to buy a growing kit and some spores. Meant to be pretty hard to do, but he assured me that things are easier these days. So yeah, I've ordered all the stuff from a couple different sites. Can't wait to get started but going to hold off until it cools down a bit. Will update with the progress

 

[jimmy35]

Mushies , that takes me back .

 

[The Passenger]

Next night got some real mushrooms from the guy. Got a bag of them (Columbian strain. Could have got the Hawiian strain but they're too strong for my liking) and also got some Space Trips (capsules with herbs and shit. Also contain Hawiian Baby Woodrose seeds which I've always wanted to try anyway) to mix with.

ecuadoridans ftw!!!!

and yes i agree amsterdam is an amazing city

 

[The Passenger]

has anyone ever taken mescaline??

any thoughts??

 

[Mario the Lothario]

Yes i've tried Peyote.

Meh.

 

[STFUJEFF]

We used to go Mushrooming in the creek beds of National Parks and state forest in my youth.
Durrring the Kiff drought of ther early 80s "our man" used to supply them too.
Peyote from Vic market used to grow my own
and we cut down a lot of the neighbours San Pedro too.
Cant be bothered now
But I preffered LSD to all the others.

 

[The_Eagles]

thailand has the best ones...double potency milkshakes

although I can't be arsed with LSD, shrooms, DMT etc etc anymore - **** that spiritual shit people babble on about, I just wanna get drunk and get with chicks

also get tired face muscles from smiling for too long