Majak: Your Prediction

[KillaKanga]

Was going to pick 50-150 but I actually think if he reaches 50 he'll get to 150. Or he won't make 50 at all.

Don't think North can have him as the focal point of attack as his quiet games are whisper quiet. But as the 2-3rd tall he can be that enigma that takes a screamer, defensive pressure, smothers, chop out Goldy while Petrie, Black and Thomas are our main goal kickers.

If Daw played a whole season kicked 20-30 goals, allowed Goldy to play 4 quarters fit AND helped keep the ball inside 50 (tackles, pressure smothers etc) then we would be a very very handy forward. Will probably never will a brownlow but could be a very important cog in North gunning for a premiership (If they do live up to potential).

 

[CF]

He can take a mark and he's strong. He's also deceptively fast on the burst for a big man. I don't think he'll ever be a great in the game, but he can be a handy player for the Roo's if he gets some consistency in his game at AFL level. Big guys always take longer to develop, and it looks to me as if he's progressing.

 

[Kram]

300.

 

[Dan]

If he is to play 150+ games he'll have to do it as a forward. A player of his size can't do ruck and forward at AFL level.

 

[Daz]

He's played about four years of VFL and has hardly torn up the competition. You watch him play VFL and there will be times he will do some great work but there will be other times he just looks lost.

Not in 2013. He stepped up to be an excellent VFL footballer. He and Currie were far and away North's best performed VFL players. They just didn't get the opportunities due to Petrie and Goldstein respectively.

Check out his numbers. They're very impressive. Better than those of the ultra impressive Jesse Hogan.

 

[Bluelegs]

Not in 2013. He stepped up to be an excellent VFL footballer. He and Currie were far and away North's best performed VFL players. They just didn't get the opportunities due to Petrie and Goldstein respectively.

Check out his numbers. They're very impressive. Better than those of the ultra impressive Jesse Hogan.

Where are you getting your stats? On the VFL website I can only see goals its disposal counter is broken.

BTW since goals kicked is the only stat I can find Hogan kicked 39 goals in 15 games, Daw kicked 15 goals in 10 games.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

If he is to play 150+ games he'll have to do it as a forward. A player of his size can't do ruck and forward at AFL level.

What do you mean by this?

 

[Dan]

What do you mean by this?

He doesn't have the endurance. West Coast v North game he tried playing both positions but had nothing left in the tank.
Had to be subbed off.

 

[Daz]

Where are you getting your stats? On the VFL website I can only see goals its disposal counter is broken.

BTW since goals kicked is the only stat I can find Hogan kicked 39 goals in 15 games, Daw kicked 15 goals in 10 games.

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_...nt=1-118-10455-253880-18717710&ocompID=204557

Hogan's numbers in brackets.

Kicks: 9.9 (9.6)
Handballs: 5 (4.5)
Disposals: 14.9 (14.1)
Marks: 5.4 (2.8 contested) (6.6 -- 2.4 contested)
Tackles: 5.5 (1.7)
Goals: 1.5 (2.6)
Behinds: 0.9 (1.4)
Hitouts: 20.5 (1.2)

 

[Bluelegs]

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_...nt=1-118-10455-253880-18717710&ocompID=204557

Hogan's numbers in brackets.

Kicks: 9.9 (9.6)
Handballs: 5 (4.5)
Disposals: 14.9 (14.1)
Marks: 5.4 (2.8 contested) (6.6 -- 2.4 contested)
Tackles: 5.5 (1.7)
Goals: 1.5 (2.6)
Behinds: 0.9 (1.4)
Hitouts: 20.5 (1.2)

Pretty similar numbers all things considered. I think it's important to remember the age and experience of the two players in these comparisons though. That being said they're fairly solid numbers. Big step up to the next level though.

 

[master bate]

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_...nt=1-118-10455-253880-18717710&ocompID=204557

Hogan's numbers in brackets.

Kicks: 9.9 (9.6)
Handballs: 5 (4.5)
Disposals: 14.9 (14.1)
Marks: 5.4 (2.8 contested) (6.6 -- 2.4 contested)
Tackles: 5.5 (1.7)
Goals: 1.5 (2.6)
Behinds: 0.9 (1.4)
Hitouts: 20.5 (1.2)

Don't want to make this too much about Hogan but he had 2 games where he was 'subbed out' very early in the first quarter. He got a knock to either body or head that took him out of an early game and a knee in his last game of the year against Bendigo Gold that could've been a field day for him. So those stats really should be divided in to 13 games not 15. He was also in the best 7 times. Compared to Majak's 2.

Also I'd ask if a ruck got 20 hitouts, 5 marks and 15 touches whether they are having a good game. That's not a great game on paper. Not dominant in the ruck, not exactly racking up ball and not taking grabs. The tackles are impressive without being amazing. 15 goals is good if he rucked most of the games but that would make 20 hitouts poor. If he played forward then 20 hitouts is good but 15 goals is average.

The supercoach scores for Daw would be interesting. Not sure if the VFL records them like TAC does.

 

[master bate]

He doesn't have the endurance. West Coast v North game he tried playing both positions but had nothing left in the tank.
Had to be subbed off.

I question his endurance and I question his training work rate to build his endurance but I don't think he should be limited by his endurance. If he didn't do it this preseason then next preseason he can really focus on endurance now that he doesn't have growing and weight to put on.

The other thing to remember is that was a big night for him. He had to do lots of ruckwork and there would've been nervous energy expended competing with Nic Nat and the media build up. If he played a good run of games even with the same overall endurance his body would likely adapt and he'd run out those games better.

 

[Daz]

Don't want to make this too much about Hogan but he had 2 games where he was 'subbed out' very early in the first quarter. He got a knock to either body or head that took him out of an early game and a knee in his last game of the year against Bendigo Gold that could've been a field day for him. So those stats really should be divided in to 13 games not 15. He was also in the best 7 times. Compared to Majak's 2.

Also I'd ask if a ruck got 20 hitouts, 5 marks and 15 touches whether they are having a good game. That's not a great game on paper. Not dominant in the ruck, not exactly racking up ball and not taking grabs. The tackles are impressive without being amazing. 15 goals is good if he rucked most of the games but that would make 20 hitouts poor. If he played forward then 20 hitouts is good but 15 goals is average.

The supercoach scores for Daw would be interesting. Not sure if the VFL records them like TAC does.

Your post doesn't make much sense, mate. Obviously he played both forward and ruck. In the end it was close to a 50/50 split between the two roles (Currie missed a few games so he had to play #1 ruck a bit). So by your logic it's either 40 hitouts or 3 goals a game (in addition to the tackles).

They're very impressive numbers in every category.

And the tackles are amazing for a bloke his size.

They do Supercoach scores but don't publish them which is annoying.

 

[Dazb86]

Not in 2013. He stepped up to be an excellent VFL footballer. He and Currie were far and away North's best performed VFL players. They just didn't get the opportunities due to Petrie and Goldstein respectively.

Check out his numbers. They're very impressive. Better than those of the ultra impressive Jesse Hogan.

I think you'll find the ruck is the easiest position to play at VFL level. Peter Street and Wade Skipper used to dominate. So much so they were potential Liston medalists.

 

[MaddAdam]

looks to me like he's battling some mental demons for whatever reasons. Might just need a good 5-7 games in a row before he finally starts to feel comfortable in his own ability and his teammates around him and could start to become a consistent footballer for North by the midway mark of the year.

Possibily the fact that he gets racially abused pretty much everytime he plays and even when he doesn't hear it, there's a huge media shitfight he has to deal with?