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Re: Nick Malceski - Possible ACL

damn that andrew demietrou (spelling) and his stupid/pointless NAB CUP
We can blame the injury on the NAB Cup all we like but to blame the CEO of the AFL for a competition that was in place well before he took control of the league is just taking out anger in the wrong place and on the wrong person.

Even if we got rid of the NAB Cup and extended the season to 26 - 30 matches (take your pick), the clubs themselves would still demand practice matches to get their players match practice for the home and away season and their would still be the risk of players doing their knees in meaningless matches before the start of the season.

Heck are we going to ban the reserves as well because a player coming back to fitness though the reserves does a knee in the middle of the season?? Do we ban training as well after the amount of cases of serious injuries happening during training??

Risk will always be around no matter the time of season and we have to live with that risk. Yes I don't like the NAB Cup either, but at the end of the day we are always going to have some form of practice matches before the season and the risk will always remain.
 

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arn't they able to play 100% ressies in the good for nothin NOBsuckers cup with its weird rules?

The senior elite that do play ... means so much extra pressure! each one!

I had a premonition that it would be ROK..

Ferk, I aint watchin another game of NABbbie trash till the real season starts

DEVVVVVVVVESTATED for mal:mad:
 
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Football is so cruel sometimes. This is not only a blow to the swans chances but Mal may never be the same player after such a serious injury.

With Mal now likely to miss the whole season, I cannot help but wonder how handy Schneider's left-foot would have been.
 

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We can blame the injury on the NAB Cup all we like but to blame the CEO of the AFL for a competition that was in place well before he took control of the league is just taking out anger in the wrong place and on the wrong person.

Even if we got rid of the NAB Cup and extended the season to 26 - 30 matches (take your pick), the clubs themselves would still demand practice matches to get their players match practice for the home and away season and their would still be the risk of players doing their knees in meaningless matches before the start of the season.

Heck are we going to ban the reserves as well because a player coming back to fitness though the reserves does a knee in the middle of the season?? Do we ban training as well after the amount of cases of serious injuries happening during training??

Risk will always be around no matter the time of season and we have to live with that risk. Yes I don't like the NAB Cup either, but at the end of the day we are always going to have some form of practice matches before the season and the risk will always remain.
robbie well said your whole post,it is a crap comp but we are part of the afl.
we have to now move on and wait for the medical report,
if we all keep worying we will sound like hawks or saints sooks.
the fact is we have been so lucky in the past with injuries we must move on,there were some great signs today
 
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Football is so cruel sometimes. This is not only a blow to the swans chances but Mal may never be the same player after such a serious injury.

With Mal now likely to miss the whole season, I cannot help but wonder how handy Schneider's left-foot would have been.
schneider couldn't run like mal
move on from schneids
and yes, we lose a super player and a future captain, but he's ONE player
we adjust, we got a good look at some real good kids today, maybe the likes of meredith or o'dwyer, or vez who didn;t play today, will step up and be the new malch
 

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Absolutely cant believe it.. Looked like nothing when he went down, i was so hoping it was a cramp and thought it wasnt that serious. Hope he can come back to his near best.. Hope its not an ACL:(
 
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Football is so cruel sometimes. This is not only a blow to the swans chances but Mal may never be the same player after such a serious injury.
Yes this is a blow to the club, because no doubt we would of done alot of Pre Season work setting up tactics and formations around having Kennelly, Mattner AND Malceski in the side and running off half back. Now we basically have to rework all those plans that took 3 to 4 months to put in place in only 3 to 4 weeks. Still at least we have Mattner available to us this season (who was impressive today) so we won't be going into the season with the hopes on the run off half back resting on the shoulders of Kennelly who is coming back from his knee injury. Plus we have Barlow and Laidlaw who can step into roles off half back if the coaching staff decide to stay with 3 running half backs (plus there were a few others that we saw today that could step up if required).

As for Malceski not being the same player after such a serious injury, just remember this is the second time he has done his knee since joining the Swans (last did it in pre season 04) and look at how he recovered from that and what sort of player he became. He knows what to expect and he knows what to do and we can expect barring a stuff up he'll be back just as good as he left off.

With Mal now likely to miss the whole season, I cannot help but wonder how handy Schneider's left-foot would have been.
Not that handy in Malceski's role thats for sure considering that are different types of players. I still don't regret trading him despite the injury to Malceski. Dempster on the other hand.......

He would of been handy to hold onto now just for depth reasons alone, but you can't go into trades expecting something like this to happen. Just be happy we traded for Mattner, that trade looks inspired now (but not for the reason we wanted of course)......
 

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Sorry to hear about Malceski's injury, hopefully it's nothing serious and he'll be back soon.

A positive to take out of the match was a strong showing from some of the youngsters. Bird looks great, Jack and O'Dwyer played well and there were some positives to be had in Moore's game as well.
 
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We can blame the injury on the NAB Cup all we like but to blame the CEO of the AFL for a competition that was in place well before he took control of the league is just taking out anger in the wrong place and on the wrong person.

Even if we got rid of the NAB Cup and extended the season to 26 - 30 matches (take your pick), the clubs themselves would still demand practice matches to get their players match practice for the home and away season and their would still be the risk of players doing their knees in meaningless matches before the start of the season.

Heck are we going to ban the reserves as well because a player coming back to fitness though the reserves does a knee in the middle of the season?? Do we ban training as well after the amount of cases of serious injuries happening during training??

Risk will always be around no matter the time of season and we have to live with that risk. Yes I don't like the NAB Cup either, but at the end of the day we are always going to have some form of practice matches before the season and the risk will always remain.



take it easy brother, i was just stirring the pot a little bit, my apologies didn mean for it to be taken that way!!
 
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take it easy brother, i was just stirring the pot a little bit, my apologies didn mean for it to be taken that way!!
My post and the part on the NAB Cup and the fact there would always be practice matches was a general post to people who want to blame the injury on the NAB Cup and hence get rid of it.

As I said, we can do that and even extend the season but there would still be a need for practice matches and hence the risk of an injury like Malceski's happening during the preseason will remain. Its not having a go at you, just point out the fact for everyone that we will alway have a need for practice matches regardless of season length.
 

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i refuse to believe it. im just gona sit by the internet all day 2moro - waiting for medical report. for 100% confirmation.

hopefully there's some freakish goodes/kenelly type comeback... (yep i know its very slim.. but i dont want to think anything else rite now!)


i want to point out how optimistic Roos can be for those who didnt notice:

“I think it shows you how important Marty Mattner coming across the line was,” Roos said, after the former Crow looked poised in a similar role on Sunday.
“Last year we only really had Mal [in that role]. At least this year we’re going to have Tadhg and Mattner. It just means that the trade has become an even more important trade than what we thought it was at the time.”
 

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The unusual thing is he didn't actually twist it that much it twisted more after he got tackled but i originally didn't think it was that serious.....we didn't even rush him off to hospital so i am optimistic its a medial ligiment or a hyperextention (they can feel very simular to an acl)
lets keep optimistic nothing can be proved untill we get some scans!
also if he is out for season this s the perfect oportunity for us to play one of our young players lets look for posotives insted of negatives i mean our b grade team tooke it up to hawthorns a grade team and if it was regular season we would of won if not for the super goal rule we have alot of potential on our list and roberts thomson was superb today i have big hopes on him this year:thumbsu:

lets keep things posotive for a while until we get some confirmed results


how good was jacks footwork today:D
 

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Re: Nick Malceski - Possible ACL

Well thats the season...

In terms of gameplan he and Tadhg are our two most important players. Play the kids now and reload for 09.
 
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Well thats the season...

In terms of gameplan he and Tadhg are our two most important players. Play the kids now and reload for 09.

WHAT THE?? u write off the whole season due to one possible season ending injury??

[i sincerely hope ur only joking about your comments...]
 

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Re: Nick Malceski - Possible ACL

Honestly, people may see me as a pessimist but I see myself as a realist.

Hall - GONE
O'Loughlin - GONE
J Bolton - GONE
Malceski - INJURED
Kennelly - INJURED
Everitt - INJURED
Mathews - OLD
Crouch - OLD
Schneider - TRADED
Ablett, McVeigh, Richards, LRT, Jolly - SUB PAR

So we have to build around a core of Kirk (not many years left), Barry (ditto Kirk) Goodes, C Bolton, Davis, ROK and to a lesser extent Fosdike and Buchanan. In all honesty, we're gone IMO.
 

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Re: Nick Malceski - Possible ACL

Honestly, people may see me as a pessimist but I see myself as a realist.

Hall - GONE
O'Loughlin - GONE
J Bolton - GONE
Malceski - INJURED
Kennelly - INJURED
Everitt - INJURED
Mathews - OLD
Crouch - OLD
Schneider - TRADED
Ablett, McVeigh, Richards, LRT, Jolly - SUB PAR

So we have to build around a core of Kirk (not many years left), Barry (ditto Kirk) Goodes, C Bolton, Davis, ROK and to a lesser extent Fosdike and Buchanan. In all honesty, we're gone IMO.
you should barrack for the saints with that weak attitude.
don't put LRT,jolly,ablett and richards in the same class as mcveigh.
look at the positives,it gives another player a chance
 
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schneider couldn't run like mal
move on from schneids
and yes, we lose a super player and a future captain, but he's ONE player
we adjust, we got a good look at some real good kids today, maybe the likes of meredith or o'dwyer, or vez who didn;t play today, will step up and be the new malch
Schneiders footskills where it be for kicking out of defence or delivering the ball inside 50 would have compensated for his limited running abilities.

But you're right we have to move on.
 
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Re: Nick Malceski - Possible ACL

Honestly, people may see me as a pessimist but I see myself as a realist.

Hall - GONE
O'Loughlin - GONE
J Bolton - GONE
Malceski - INJURED
Kennelly - INJURED
Everitt - INJURED
Mathews - OLD
Crouch - OLD
Schneider - TRADED
Ablett, McVeigh, Richards, LRT, Jolly - SUB PAR

So we have to build around a core of Kirk (not many years left), Barry (ditto Kirk) Goodes, C Bolton, Davis, ROK and to a lesser extent Fosdike and Buchanan. In all honesty, we're gone IMO.

I thought Kennelly will be ready to go by round 1?

Richards has been satisfactory in defence.

Ablett is par at the very least.

It's not as bad as you make out. You've also got to remember that other teams will have their own injury problems throughout the season.

Also try scanning the lists of other teams. I don't really think that there is a list so outstanding that it is beyond us.
 

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Fingers crossed for Mal.I won't accept it until they have done the MRI.I recall when he did his knee the first time.It took a year of recovery before he played in the twos for most of the following season.Last year he was sensational for us.I really hope the kids Ok......
 

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Is that the same knee he injured back in 2005? I bet he needs a knee reconstruction and all. :(

Depressing news... absolutely shocked. Everything I do now seems 1000 times worse. :(
 

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Honestly, people may see me as a pessimist but I see myself as a realist.

Hall - GONE
O'Loughlin - GONE
J Bolton - GONE
Malceski - INJURED
Kennelly - INJURED
Everitt - INJURED
Mathews - OLD
Crouch - OLD
Schneider - TRADED
Ablett, McVeigh, Richards, LRT, Jolly - SUB PAR

So we have to build around a core of Kirk (not many years left), Barry (ditto Kirk) Goodes, C Bolton, Davis, ROK and to a lesser extent Fosdike and Buchanan. In all honesty, we're gone IMO.
I wouldn't call you a pessimist, I would call you a defeatist.
Did you watch that game yesterday? There was an awful lot of up side to those kids and what they did.
Kennelly is not injured, I was talking to him at a shopping centre visit last week and asked about his knee. He said his knee is 100% and that he feels fitter then at any other time in his career.
You call LRT sub-par, again I ask did you watch that game? He was superb!
Your being very, very unfair to Jolly calling him sub-par also, he is a very good ruckman now focused on being a swan for the rest of his career.
Yes, the Malceski injury is a blow, but remember, we secured Mattner (also pretty impressive yesterday) so the loss of Malceski, whilst bad, is not as severe as it could have been.

Is that the same knee he injured back in 2005? I bet he needs a knee reconstruction and all. :(

Depressing news... absolutely shocked. Everything I do now seems 1000 times worse. :(
No, he did the left in '05
 
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