Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Chief]

yeah probably. Here’s the full video…

Yeah, not watching 5 1/2 hours, sorry.

EDIT: I watched a few minutes of some whiny old bloke who doesn't understand a complex world, or who is playing to a crowd that doesn't want to understand a complex world. It's theatre. Everyone else is meanwhile getting on with dealing with reality. Don't put this junk in your head, it's not healthy.

 

[Chief]

Has a friend or relative been abusing VAERS?

Have they been found wandering around, incoherent after imbibing?

Here's how to get them out of the delusion that VAERS is proof of anything.

 

[Lethal Knights]

Interesting Sweden aren’t doing 5-11yos

Maybe they waiting for updated omicron version?

STOCKHOLM, Jan 27 (Reuters) - Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

"With the knowledge we have today, with a low risk for serious disease for kids, we don't see any clear benefit with vaccinating them," Health Agency official Britta Bjorkholm told a news conference.

 

[Malifice]

Interesting Sweden aren’t doing 5-11yos

Maybe they waiting for updated omicron version?

STOCKHOLM, Jan 27 (Reuters) - Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

"With the knowledge we have today, with a low risk for serious disease for kids, we don't see any clear benefit with vaccinating them," Health Agency official Britta Bjorkholm told a news conference.

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Sweden. Population 10 million, 16,000 COVID deaths.
Australia. Population 25 million. 3,400 COVID deaths.

If we were on the same trajectory through this as Sweden, we'd be sitting on 40,000 deaths instead of 3,400.

I'd like to see the science the Swedes are relying on here, but they don't exactly have the best track record of managing the virus to date.

 

[Lethal Knights]

Is he referring to the CCP card carrying types??

 

[Fwoy]

interesting response

 

[Chief]

How believable is his response?

 

[Chief]

"Why hasn't our government done a study on natural immunity?"

Huh?

Let's assume that's true. I don't know.

There are studies. What is he talking about?

Google.

Here's something. First hit. I'm sure there are more. Check the references:

Efficacy of Natural Immunity against SARS-CoV-2 Reinfection with the Beta Variant | NEJM

Correspondence from The New England Journal of Medicine — Efficacy of Natural Immunity against SARS-CoV-2 Reinfection with the Beta Variant

www.nejm.org

The guy he is interviewing is doing a study.

Are studies no good unless the US government does them?

Switch off this "Scoop" channel. It's crap. Don't feed it to your brain.

 

[Stokey]

Been in the UK 15 years and this was a once in a season (all divisions) occurance.

It is now becoming a weekly occurance.

Has happened a couple of times at White Hart. Happened at QPR v Swansea last week.

Would be good to have an investigation why.

 

[Corrupt_]

Nice uh... vaccine?

 

[Evolved1]

Nice uh... vaccine?View attachment 1319042

That doesn't account for age. Consider the fact that vaccination rate is far higher for high risk groups including old people. Low booster rates should also be a consideration.

If you were to populate the data by vaccination status (1/2/3 doses) against age, that would be far more meaningful.

 

[Malifice]

Nice uh... vaccine?View attachment 1319042

Not only is that person crazy, they also cant do maths.

No-one under the age of 16 has died, so using the 16 year old+ numbers:

30 percent of deaths are among the unvaccinated 5 percent.
70 percent of deaths are among the vaccinated 95 percent.

Making you around 8 times better protected against death if you're vaccinated, just using the raw numbers above.

 

[Chief]

Mal I hope you have a meticulously maintained spreadsheet showing this.

 

[Malifice]

Hey Corrupt_

The actual numbers from NSW if you're interested:

While some anti-vax social media users are quick to point to the fact that the majority of Australians dying or in intensive care units with COVID-19 have been vaccinated, sharing such statistics without context can paint a misleading picture of vaccine efficacy.

In NSW, for example, the most recent COVID-19 weekly surveillance report shows that 267,381 double-dosed people were reported to have contracted COVID-19 in NSW between November 26 and January 8.

Of those cases, 1 per cent required hospitalisation, 0.1 per cent required intensive care and 0.03 per cent of people died (that is, one person in almost 4,000 cases of the virus).

Of the 3,552 unvaccinated people who contracted COVID-19 over the same period, 8.9 per cent were hospitalised, 1.5 per cent landed in ICUs and 0.6 per cent died (or one person for every 169 cases).

No, a seven-year-old in NSW did not die after being vaccinated for COVID-19

Feel free to double check those numbers, but going by NSW population, whom contracted COVID between November 26 and January 8:

• 1 percent hospitalization (vaxxed) vs 8.9 percent hospitalized (unvaxxed)
• 0.1 percent wound up in ICU (vaxxed) vs 1.5 percent in ICU (unvaxxed)
• 0.03 percent died (vaxxed) vs 0.6 percent died (unvaxxed).

So... what were you saying about the vaccine not being effective again? By those numbers you're 20 times less likely to die, 15 times less likely to wind up in ICU and 9 times less likely to wind up in hospital with COVID if you're vaccinated.

 

[M Malice]

The Left-wing case against vaccine mandates

As writers from the Left, we are disturbed by this turn of events. We don’t think there is anything progressive about the current move towards compelled — and in places mandatory — Covid vaccinations. These are discriminatory against minority communities, many of whom for historical reasons are suspicious of medicine and the state, and have had lower vaccine take-up rates. They are enormously costly, not only in economic terms, creating huge profits for the pharmaceutical companies rolling them out, with BioNTech, Moderna and Pfizer making between them over US$1,000 per second, but also in human resources terms — with thousands of health workers being pulled out of (already understaffed, in many cases) hospitals to run mass vaccination centres.

The mandates are also clearly leading to vaccine hoarding in rich countries, where doses are being forced on younger people, who are little at risk from Covid, while elderly and vulnerable people in poorer countries have been deprived access to them. The pressure from multinational donors for African countries to reach a 60% vaccination target, meanwhile, has led to disturbing recent reports of forced vaccination in Rwanda, where vaccinees have been handcuffed and beaten to comply. Finally, and equally disturbingly, the compulsion element has led to a huge rise in distrust of the medical establishment, which will have serious future consequences for medical care.

In a brilliant essay at the outset of the pandemic, the Mozambican sociologist Elísio Macamo analysed risk in African and European societies, and noted how levels and perceptions and approaches were entirely different because of the different levels of socio-economic comfort. Indeed, it is now clear that with its much younger population and greater resilience through exposure to a range of viruses that boost immunity, the risk of Covid to people in Africa is much lower than the risk to older and vulnerable people in richer countries. This means, effectively, that the shared risk from Covid is now being outsourced to Africa through the push for universal vaccination: poor African countries are required to get into debt to procure vaccines, and vaccinate large numbers of people, in order to protect older and wealthier people in rich countries.

As for the notion that people should get vaccinated to avoid taking up hospital beds, it’s an argument that makes little sense, for obvious reasons, if aimed at those who faced little or no risk of ending up in the hospital in the first place. Respected epidemiologists have noted that the chances of an 18-year-old dying of Covid are 1 in 10,000 of those of a 75 year-old. Even for people under 50, the risk is low. While a small number of people in this category might indeed end up in hospital as a result of their choice not to get vaccinated, it’s unclear why they should be held any more responsible than someone who ends up in hospital as a result of, say, unhealthy lifestyle choices.

Even from an individual perspective, for younger people who risk little or nothing from Covid, it’s unclear whether there is even an individual benefit from receiving the vaccine. It rather feels like, in the rush to vaccinate every living thing, the elderly have once again been sacrificed. A focused protection approach might have geared all efforts towards reaching the highest possible vaccination coverage in people aged 60+ as quickly as possible — including, as a last resort, age-specific mandates (unnecessary in practice because people in this age group, in general, are more than happy to get vaccinated).

Fortunately, the narrative does appear to be shifting. Even the WHO is now claiming that, precisely because the current vaccines have a negligible impact on prevention of infection and transmission, “a vaccination strategy based on repeated booster doses of the original vaccine composition is unlikely to be appropriate or sustainable”. The same concern was voiced by the vaccine strategy chief of the European Medicines Agency (EMA), Marco Cavaleri, who added that administering repeated booster doses could potentially lead to “problems with immune response” — that is, lower the overall protection of societies. “While use of additional boosters can be part of contingency plans, repeated vaccinations within short intervals would not represent a sustainable long-term strategy,” Cavaleri said. He also said boosters “can be done once, or maybe twice, but it’s not something that we can think should be repeated constantly”.

 

[Run n Spread]

Not Australia but a country close to home. Journalist Charlotte Bellis has elected to reside in Kabul as she had to leave her previous Qatar residence due to being single and preggers.
Her application to return to NZ on the basis of persecution denied (she is a NZ citizen)
Just reflect on that. The ****ing Taliban is treating a single pregnant woman better than a so called caring socially concerned Western government.
That is the ****ing insanity that has gripped most of the Western World.
This is just deranged. Meanwhile on Vic transport the loud speakers on the train continually spout virus propaganda like something out of North Korea.
Let's see the cult try and defend this one

 

[bourbons]

Not Australia but a country close to home. Journalist Charlotte Bellis has elected to reside in Kabul as she had to leave her previous Qatar residence due to being single and preggers.
Her application to return to NZ denied (she is a citizen)
Just reflect on that. The ******* Taliban is treating a single pregnant woman better than a so called caring socially concerned Western government.
That is the ******* insanity that has gripped most of the Western World.
This is just deranged. Meanwhile on Vic transport the loud speakers on the train continually spout virus propaganda like something out of North Korea

Thats wild

Why can't she get back into NZ exactly? Are they not doing international arrivals yet?

 

[Malifice]

The Left-wing case against vaccine mandates

Written by a conservative, in a conservative rag.

Nice try.

 

[Run n Spread]

Thats wild

Why can't she get back into NZ exactly? Are they not doing international arrivals yet?

Nope they're not.
That's wild is it. This whole ****ing thing has been hysterical insanity for 14 months and this is just the latest degenerative development from a bunch of degenerates mandating this crap

 

[Gralin]

Not Australia but a country close to home. Journalist Charlotte Bellis has elected to reside in Kabul as she had to leave her previous Qatar residence due to being single and preggers.
Her application to return to NZ on the basis of persecution denied (she is a NZ citizen)
Just reflect on that. The ******* Taliban is treating a single pregnant woman better than a so called caring socially concerned Western government.
That is the ******* insanity that has gripped most of the Western World.
This is just deranged. Meanwhile on Vic transport the loud speakers on the train continually spout virus propaganda like something out of North Korea.
Let's see the cult try and defend this one

NZ journalist battling to come home from Afghanistan says other pregnant women have been blocked from returning

A pregnant New Zealand journalist stranded overseas due to COVID-19 border restrictions is urging the NZ government to find a way to help women like her, saying she went public because her lawyer had represented 30 women who had been through it before.

www.abc.net.au

Just read about Charlotte it's ****ed fully and the article mentions she is one of many

What's the "North Korean virus propaganda" on the trains?

 

[Run n Spread]

NZ journalist battling to come home from Afghanistan says other pregnant women have been blocked from returning

A pregnant New Zealand journalist stranded overseas due to COVID-19 border restrictions is urging the NZ government to find a way to help women like her, saying she went public because her lawyer had represented 30 women who had been through it before.

www.abc.net.au

Just read about Charlotte it's f’ed fully and the article mentions she is one of many

What's the "North Korean virus propaganda" on the trains?

Are you in Melbourne? Get a train.
Of course she is one of many. Thousands. People in Australia even have been sleeping in tents for months.

 

[Gralin]

Are you in Melbourne? Get a train.
Of course she is one of many. Thousands. People in Australia even have been sleeping in tents for months.

Get a train? You brought it up

 

[Run n Spread]

Get a train? You brought it up

If you catch a train in Melbourne there is an endless loop of a monotone woman's voice announcing we need to stay on top of the virus where a mask social distance etc. Message is roughly 30 seconds followed by 60 second break than on again.

It is the same in most public spaces trams CBD etc. Very NK style.

Saw the Hawthorn supporter logo and assumed you were in Melbourne?
I'm guessing you're not? Are you?In fairness that would explain a lot

 

[Gralin]

If you catch a train in Melbourne there is an endless loop of a monotone woman's voice announcing we need to stay on top of the virus where a mask social distance etc. Message is roughly 30 seconds followed by 60 min break than on again.

It is the same in most public spaces trams CBD etc. Very NK style.

Saw the Hawthorn supporter logo and assumed you were in Melbourne?
I'm guessing you're not? Are you?In fairness that would explain a lot

Just haven't been on a train since June

 

[Run n Spread]

Just haven't been on a train since June

Clearly. I doubt you've been anywhere