Is McGowan a lunatic?
Austria’s sweeping vaccine mandate a test case for democracies
Police will soon be able to check vaccination status at traffic stops in the first Western democracy to make the jabs compulsory for almost all adults.www.smh.com.au
Isn't it abundantly clear now that:
Vaccinations do not prevent infection, or the spread (yes as per Chief's note it reduces the severity, and duration therefore lessens the likelihood, but they are all extremely leaky)
Natural immunity is more effective than vaccine induced immunity.
Only the elderly and already sick really have anything to worry about, particularly now omicron is about.
Isn't it about time people contest these draconian and authoritarian measures? Or are we all happy to be complicit in the removal of freedoms that only two years ago everyone would have been aghast at? Are people so scared of the virus that they're allowing the government to take control of bodily autonomy?
We have given a god like status to drugs rolled out by mass pharmaceutical companies on an emergency use authorisation (they haven't yet been approved through the normal channels of scientific investigation). In 20 years Moderna failed to have a single patent approved for any drug they were trialling. Furthermore, which of the 15 globally approved vaccines should we take, or are any of them fine, so long as you comply and continue to get your boosters? What about naturally recovered people?
IF the vaccination was proven to be super effective, and IF this disease was a real threat to the majority of the population then yes, mandate away. But we're talking about a virus that has negligible danger to the majority of the population, particularly anyone under 30, or anyone fit and healthy under 60.
I think there are still more questions than answers and as the pandemic has played out, much of the rhetoric we heard in the early to mid stages of the situation have been rolled back, or proven to be questionable. Even now.. News reports are still signalling the dangers of the virus.. '38 people died from COVID today in NSW', 160 people in ICU.. OK that's all terrible, but what are the actual details? What are their age ranges? How many of them were already heavily compromised? How many of them had zero other illnesses? They don't tell you this because clickbait, and a good story trumps the truth. **EDIT found this News - COVID-19 (Coronavirus) statistics
Could many of the unvaccinated in ICU suffering from other severe illnesses, be on a multitude of drugs and be reluctant to add another intervention that may jeopardise their ongoing treatment?
It's all worth a conversation, and not be shut down as an antivaxxer when the narrative is questioned as evidence mounts against mandating vaccination of a fairly mild disease.
No its not, its obvious that vaccines prevent infection in some cases. Vacines do not make you worse than"natural immunity" you made that up.
No the measures are not draconian, and people have contested them.....most of us think you are nuttier than fruitcakes. Dumbass.
No we do not worship the drugs like gods. We recognise them for what they are, Vaccines have been vital against, polio, smallpox , rubella , etc.. this is just another one. They are a scientific tool, like cars, and elevators, and computers.
You are correct the vaccine is not "super effective" like a seatbelt in a car , it doesn't stop everyone dying. That doesn't make you right.
What you think is irrelevant given your status in the medical, scientific world.
You are making up your own scenarios , the answer is probably no.
Shut up antivaxxer.