Society/Culture Manus Island - what is your take?

[Power Raid]

hahahahahaha.

No.

actually yes

even when we accepted refugees onto our operating military bases, the bases had to upgrade facilities as they were deemed to low a standard for refugees.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

So they gor what they wanted and had Manus closed by the high court, but refuse to leave despite being offered alternative accomodation and are free to live in the PNG community

It's Australia or bust because quite simply they're after the welfare

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

It's Australia or bust because quite simply they're after the welfare

Ive had a gutful of all these refugees with 95 inch plasmas and gold houses.

 

[medusala]

First it's all Labor's fault, now it's the lawyers. The blokes that have been in government and overseeing this monstrosity for the last four years get a leave pass though.

On what basis has the government (unlike the ALP and "human rights" lawyers) encouraged these illegal immigrants?

If they havent, then how is it their fault? And why wont those who encourage such people admit responsibility?

 

[Benny78]

I don't really give a s**t about it. Truth is there's probably over 1000 marginally worse crimes against humanity playing out as we speak, they're just not trending in the media. We need to remember things don't trend in the media because Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens put them there. They trend because idiots on social media who can't spell at 40yrs old or keep one husband find them interesting.

 

[Kurve]

It's all a bit too much, some of the most relentless anti racist crusaders are calling Papuans brutal uncivilized savages and a plethora of other ugly racist names. The murder of canine bestie Foxy was the last straw for some but wait ... WTF if you're more upset about a dog than you are men being beaten by primitive barbarians with long metal poles there's something seriously wrong with you!

It's an all around shabby situation, doesn't matter what I think personally. Australians voted to 'Stop the Boats'.

 

[Coolangatta]

 

[rhinowce]

That was funny as a wet fart on public transport.

 

[Power Raid]

First it's all Labor's fault, now it's the lawyers. The blokes that have been in government and overseeing this monstrosity for the last four years get a leave pass though.

of course it is Labor's fault for putting politics first and risking the responsible management of the second (now third) best permanent resettlement of refugees globally.

We now see scabs and leaches, like these lawyers, seeking a fast buck and perpetuating the misery.

If only we could all align ourselves to preserving this important humanitarian effort and maintain our status as a top 3 nation in the world when it comes to refugees.

 

[strung_out7]

of course it is Labor's fault for putting politics first and risking the responsible management of the second (now third) best permanent resettlement of refugees globally.

We now see scabs and leaches, like these lawyers, seeking a fast buck and perpetuating the misery.

If only we could all align ourselves to preserving this important humanitarian effort and maintain our status as a top 3 nation in the world when it comes to refugees.

How much money has the lawyer poster here made from this scenario?

 

[Power Raid]

How much money has the lawyer poster here made from this scenario?

it's not just the lawyer whose snout is in the trough. you have big player like probowo, winata, soeharto. you have lobby groups and political parties trying to cling to power. you have charities and lawyers.

it's an multi billion dollar industry built on human misery and false hope.

 

[strung_out7]

it's not just the lawyer whose snout is in the trough. you have big player like probowo, winata, soeharto. you have lobby groups and political parties trying to cling to power. you have charities and lawyers.

it's an multi billion dollar industry built on human misery and false hope.

And begins at the source with the human traffickers

 

[Gough]

What do you guys think about our government's rejection of New Zealand's offer to take 150 refugees from Manus?

 

[strung_out7]

What do you guys think about our government's rejection of New Zealand's offer to take 150 refugees from Manus?

It will open up the floodgates for these county shoppers as we will be seen as soft.

 

[Power Raid]

And begins at the source with the human traffickers

yes, that's why I mentioned probowo, winata and soeharto

 

[Power Raid]

What do you guys think about our government's rejection of New Zealand's offer to take 150 refugees from Manus?

Personally, from an emotional basis, I would resettle every single person who wanted to come to Australia. Sadly though, when you apply common sense and consider consequences from the past, you realise you can't resettle everyone.

The tough policy position introduced by Keating and maintained through Howard's years, resulted in an excellent record of resettling people and placing us second in the world at doing so. Imagine that SECOND BEST IN THE WORLD and zero kids in detention. What a great achievement!

Then without labouring into well trodden ground, policies were implemented that supported the people smuggling industry, resulted in death, 8,000 kids in detention and spread suffering.

By accepting NZ's offer which is clearly politically motivated (otherwise it would have been offered behind closed doors), would be a short term emotional win but create long term pain and suffering.

 

[Coolangatta]

That was funny as a wet fart on public transport.

Shut your hole Svetlana.

 

[yebiga]

Morally, we are fully responsible for these refugees. Walking in step with the USA foreign policy makes us culpable at the most fundamental level in destroying countries and creating a global refugee crisis. There is a clear cause and effect and no one will clearly state this because it threatens our fawning US foreign policy. Not the ABC not anyone.

Australia has become a morally vacuous nation of overweight comfortable numbskulls.

We can't wipe the blood off our hands. Both parties are morally reprehensible. And the growing ANZAC day jingoism is sickening.

 

[Power Raid]

Morally, we are fully responsible for these refugees. Walking in step with the USA foreign policy makes us culpable at the most fundamental level in destroying countries and creating a global refugee crisis. There is a clear cause and effect and no one will clearly state this because it threatens our fawning US foreign policy. Not the ABC not anyone.

Australia has become a morally vacuous nation of overweight comfortable numbskulls.

We can't wipe the blood off our hands. Both parties are morally reprehensible. And the growing ANZAC day jingoism is sickening.

any chance you could list the top three nations in the world for permanent resettlement of refugees?

then consider whether you claim is consistent with the facts

 

[yebiga]

any chance you could list the top three nations in the world for permanent resettlement of refugees?

then consider whether you claim is consistent with the facts

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-21/where-does-australia-rank-on-its-refugee-intake/7864070
In your eagerness to prove me wrong you only read the first table
And only proved yourself wrong

25 th not 3rd -
Then consider our direct culpability
Shame shame shame

 

[Power Raid]

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-21/where-does-australia-rank-on-its-refugee-intake/7864070
In your eagerness to prove me wrong you only read the first table
And only proved yourself wrong

25 th not 3rd -
Then consider our direct culpability
Shame shame shame

clearly you don't want to read the facts, which were presented in your own link. It is so sad when people have to lie to themselves to save face or use false facts to preserve there thoughts on policy.

try again........can you list the top three nations in the world for permanently resettling refugees?

I'll help.......as per your article:
Here are the countries that resettled the most refugees through the UNHCR in 2015:

1. United States (66,500)
2. Canada (20,000)
3. Australia (9,400)
4. Norway (2,400)

Once you've decided to be honest with yourself, go back through history and find the first year we weren't in the top 3!

 

[yebiga]

clearly you don't want to read the facts, which were presented in your own link. It is so sad when people have to lie to themselves to save face or use false facts to preserve there thoughts on policy.

try again........can you list the top three nations in the world for permanently resettling refugees?

I'll help.......as per your article:
Here are the countries that resettled the most refugees through the UNHCR in 2015:

1. United States (66,500)
2. Canada (20,000)
3. Australia (9,400)
4. Norway (2,400)

Once you've decided to be honest with yourself, go back through history and find the first year we weren't in the top 3!

Read the very next paragraph - this site is becoming more remedial by the day

 

[EasternTiger]

Let us move all these refugees into Kew.

 

[yebiga]

When it comes to the total number of refugees recognised and resettled by a country, Australia ranks 25th (and 32nd on a per capita basis).

 

[yebiga]

The mind that thinks a mere 9000 would places 3rd in the world!
God save us