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Marc Murphy

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Sep 7, 2012
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Let me get this straight, I'm not here to bad mouth Murph and I'm not one of those imbeciles who says "trade him" or "he's no good" or "Drop him". I'm here to give an honest assessment of his performance in some games.

It might be unfair to pick out Murph, because he did receive a foot injury early in the game last night and there were many poor contributors on the night, but I can't help but be furstrated with Murph's output when it comes to running both ways. I watched him closely last night and it was hard not to notice his lack of desire to apply pressure.

I looked at the stats from last night game and noticed he had 0 tackles, 0 score assists and 0 one-percenters.

Granted, he had an injury and got a heavy tag, but that's just not good enough from the skipper. He was still able to run out the game and while he might have been hampered by the injury, I just think his defensive side of his game has lacked too often in games. He got lambasted after the Cats game when he let Hunt hurt him going forward, and I can understand why. His workrate just isn't good enough when he doesn't have the ball.

Even if he's struggling with a tag, it's not the end of the world if he struggles to break it, but he can still contribute by actually working hard and placing some defensive pressure on the opposition.

Clearly, we badly miss Carrots cos he's the master at blocking for the likes of Judd and Murph. Nobody does it better. When Murph gets a hard tag, I just feel in his body language that he doesn't feel confident enough to try and break it or he doesn't want to get physical and let them know he won't take that shit. Some of his teammates clearly need to help him out and crash and bump into his tagger to let him know that he won't get away with some of the tactics he uses. I still don't understand to this day why we don't help guys like Judd and Murph out when they are copping hard tags.

Am I over reacting or do you think it is a genuine concern? Because as skipper and under the guidance of Mick, I thought he would be leading the way with regards to applying some defensive pressure.
 
Carrazzo should have been captain.

We went for style over substance. A marquee captain.

That's not to say Murph isn't a brilliant player, he clearly is.

This 10000000000000 fold.
Murph to take over from Carazzo in the years to come.
 

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I think the foot injury probably hampered him more than we think.
But yes, he needs to take a page out of Judd's book. Judd did absolutely nothing pretty, flashy or highlight reel worthy last night but he Best on for us IMO. My point being that Murph needs to learn to get scrappy and physical when he's having a rough game, something which he seems allergic to.
 
When I see Murph up against the better captains in the league, he looks like a boy among men. I did and do feel Carrazzo should have been made captain, and just hope the burden isn't impacting on his performance.

From appearances he looks to be trying to act the part rather than it coming naturally, and while that's admirable I just want him to concentrate on being the top 10 player we know he is.
 
Use to break tags for fun in his 3rd and 4th seasons. I remember a game Against Brisbane where he absolutely Destroyed Troy Sellwood and again last year I though he had ended Kane Cornes Career. Doesn't seem to move like he use and lacks that explosiveness and strength through the core for his lateral movement! Is he carrying something?
 
Other than the other night, I thought Murph had been going pretty good, he injured his ankle/foot the other night I think in the 2nd...plus he's the one the opposition target now which is something that he and the coaches need to work on.

Re the captaincy, he hasn't warranted some of the crticism he's getting, he's going ok, its something he will grow into as well, similar to say Swallow at North, a young gun, who has grown nto the role.
 
Use to break tags for fun in his 3rd and 4th seasons. I remember a game Against Brisbane where he absolutely Destroyed Troy Sellwood and again last year I though he had ended Kane Cornes Career. Doesn't seem to move like he use and lacks that explosiveness and strength through the core for his lateral movement! Is he carrying something?

He's trying to carry a football clubs expectations unfortunately.
 

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Clearly, we badly miss Carrots cos he's the master at blocking for the likes of Judd and Murph. Nobody does it better. When Murph gets a hard tag, I just feel in his body language that he doesn't feel confident enough to try and break it or he doesn't want to get physical and let them know he won't take that shit. Some of his teammates clearly need to help him out and crash and bump into his tagger to let him know that he won't get away with some of the tactics he uses. I still don't understand to this day why we don't help guys like Judd and Murph out when they are copping hard tags.

How about he shows some fight and agression himself?
 
Gotta remember there was no Gibbs and no Carrazzo playing on Monday.

Not saying he still wouldn't have been tagged but I reckon if those two were playing and we won this thread might not be happening.

For mine the best way to describe his season thus far is inconsistent and I would suggest the reasons for that would be an interrupted pre season, which is critical these days for the best possible chance to perform well, and coming to terms with being the captain.

Add in an injury on the night and at this point I'm not overly concerned.

With the massive physical demands placed on the players these days very few play outstanding football game after game, year after year.
 
My biggest worry with Murph coming into this season was his inability to shake off a hard tag.

Failed to do it a few times in 2011 and more so in 2012 when teams started tagging Judd less.

It's beginning to happen more often this season, and I think the fact he's underdone is just expanding the problem.
 

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I've had similar thoughts. Not sure that he is the type to inspire by words or actions, but what the hell would I know? Certainly not the archetypal Malthouse captain. Needs to be given time to grow into the role which he admitted himself, and don't underestimate the potential issues with Juddy still being in the frame...he casts a long, grimacing shadow.

Performance wise I think he just hasn't put in the couple of dominant peroformances we might expect. He is only off about 1.5 disposals on his 2012 average, upped his tackle rate (at least prior to the w'end) and his goals average. Contested disposals are off a bit (10 against 12.5), though there could be any number of reasons. Small sample size too.

What he can do immediately to garner a little more respect is stop exaggerting contact. Won't go as far as to call him a stager, but he certainly emphasizes things a little for the umps.

Anyway, suggest we don't analyze too long and hard. Lets see how he is shaping up at the pointy end of the season.
 
My biggest worry with Murph coming into this season was his inability to shake off a hard tag.

Failed to do it a few times in 2011 and more so in 2012 when teams started tagging Judd less.

It's beginning to happen more often this season, and I think the fact he's underdone is just expanding the problem.

What games was he shut down in? Had one game in the high teens in 2011 and two in 2012 excluding his injury. Is as proven as any mid in this area...and he's copped tags from year one.
 
Laid 16 tackles against WC and Adelaide. Isn't right after the injury rounded off an interrupted pre-season. It's easy to beat him up and tag him when he's underdone.

Murphy badly twisted his ankle during the game, under ordinary circumstances he would probably have been subbed off. Perhaps this had something to do with his 'stats'.:rolleyes:

Thank you gents for your sanity. Some very silly comments on this thread. Of all the knee jerks after Monday night, this is the one that is smacking some posters in their own faces.

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Murph doesn't have much trouble shaking off a tag under normal circumstances, I'd say his foot was in a fair bit more strife than we saw. Previous poster was right, if we didn't have such a shit run with injuries then we'd have subbed him off.

He just doesn't seem like the inspiring captain leading his troops into battle. He seems nervous to raise his voice above a loud whisper.
 
Laid 16 tackles against WC and Adelaide. Isn't right after the injury rounded off an interrupted pre-season. It's easy to beat him up and tag him when he's underdone.

.....and when he injures himself through the game as well. Like someone else said, there's more to worry about than Murphy.
 
Expected more from him on Monday night but it's very hard to judge players from the stands as we have no idea how badly hampered they may be. Given his standing and record I'm willing to put this one down to a 'bad night'.

Will not be so forgiving if there's a repeat on Sunday. Needs to lift.
 

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