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jo172 said:
The only thing that tips it for me is the initial assault. To me that puts for me it's more likely than not that it was more than just a friendship.
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All that says to me is that the husband believes it happened, and he's far more likely to believe that story than he is to accept one where she has a mental illness, especially if she has gone as far as to leave 'clues' for him to discover.

The husband believing it happened is about as relevant to the truth of the matter as a public opinion poll on the subject in the Advertiser.

Without genuine evidence, it's just he said she said, and she's just not that believable to me - you have to be doing well to lose to a politician in the honesty and believability stakes.
 
NTRabbit said:
The husband believing it happened is about as relevant to the truth of the matter as a public opinion poll on the subject in the Advertiser.
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I don't want to bog down another thread with this business but my response would be that the distinctions here are:
- Phillips believed it for 24 months, it's a long time to believe in a mistaken set of facts.
- Rann's conduct in the immediate aftermath of the assault. The quickness in which his, and his allies in Koutsiatonnis, Foley and Bolkus changed their stories made me smell a rat.
 
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/in-depth/sa-premier-mike-rann-claims-liberal-leader-isobel-redmond-pulls-out-of-second-debate/story-fn2sdwup-1225839480675

Sources have told AdelaideNow that Ms Redmond refused to attend at the last minute and is now willing only to debate in Renmark, the main centre of the marginal National-held seat of Chaffey.

It is understood Mr Rann will agree to any location other than Renmark.
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/in-depth/sa-premier-mike-rann-claims-liberal-leader-isobel-redmond-pulls-out-of-second-debate/story-fn2sdwup-1225839480675

This may be Advertiser bullshit, but if so the child like behaviour of politicians in campaign mode never ceases to amaze me.
 

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brucetiki said:
Not that we need further proof that Atkinson is quite arrogant, I've noticed he hasn't a single electoral poster up in Croydon - even Rann's got every second stobie pole in Ramsay covered (and his seat is safer)!
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No one's certain that it's actually possible to take a photo of Atkinson though.

I really hope Gamers 4 Croydon polls well.
 
I must say it is kind of weird how many gamers all of sudden care about human rights. Wouldn't have batted an eyelid during the Haneef case, but take away their games and there will be blood in the streets! Having said that, I hope they do poll strongly enough to make a point.
 
jo172 said:
I don't want to bog down another thread with this business but my response would be that the distinctions here are:
- Phillips believed it for 24 months, it's a long time to believe in a mistaken set of facts.
- Rann's conduct in the immediate aftermath of the assault. The quickness in which his, and his allies in Koutsiatonnis, Foley and Bolkus changed their stories made me smell a rat.
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I'm very much inclined to believe they had a relationship; perhaps not to the extent she's stated, but I definitely think something happened. Rann's behaviour about it, from such a polished, structure media performer, has just been way too weird.

What kind of other Chantelois bombshell were you thinking? Imagining she'd slept with another high profile member of the Labor Government or something? ;)

I doubt the Libs will win btw; ideally, Labor will win a minority Government and Redmond (if they actually believe she's legit) can have a proper tilt at the next win.
 
King Elvis said:
I'm very much inclined to believe they had a relationship; perhaps not to the extent she's stated, but I definitely think something happened. Rann's behaviour about it, from such a polished, structure media performer, has just been way too weird.

What kind of other Chantelois bombshell were you thinking? Imagining she'd slept with another high profile member of the Labor Government or something? ;)

I doubt the Libs will win btw; ideally, Labor will win a minority Government and Redmond (if they actually believe she's legit) can have a proper tilt at the next win.
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Will be interesting to see if the Liberals can stick with Redmond for four years considering she has no factional allegiance and is known to speak her mind on issues that most conservatives abhor and populist's shirk.
 
brucetiki said:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...liberals-advance/story-fn2sdwup-1225839763317

Bright (held by Chloe Fox by 6.8%) looks set to be retained by Labor. If the opinion polls are right and Labor retain both Newland and Bright, then that makes it a real uphill battle for the Libs to win.
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How accurate are these polls anyway? 3% difference really isn't that massive. I have to wonder what their sample size is.

Anywho, there's over 70 candidates in the upper house this year. Will be bloody exhausting if you plan to vote below the line.
 

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P.A.F.C said:
How accurate are these polls anyway? 3% difference really isn't that massive. I have to wonder what their sample size is.

Anywho, there's over 70 candidates in the upper house this year. Will be bloody exhausting if you plan to vote below the line.
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Voted once in a NSW election where the upper house ballot was the size of a tablecloth. And yes, I numbered every single box below the line. :eek:
 
P.A.F.C said:
Anywho, there's over 70 candidates in the upper house this year. Will be bloody exhausting if you plan to vote below the line.
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Looks like It'll be 30 minutes in the booth instead of the customary 20 them :D - the walk to the local polling place will probably be shorter than the time I spend voting!
 
Last time I stuffed it up twice before resigning to the one above the line. Humiliating & frustrating at the same time. :D
 
Tuned into 5aa early, can't wait for the game to start!!

By chance, 5aa had Bob Brown and Sarah Hanson-Young, Federal Greens senators on until 3pm.

I haven't really followed the Greens - I was an early convert of Don Chipp's "Keep the Bastards Honest" Democrats years ago, and they have been my Upper House alternative. But since the Democrats sold out, and Nat S-D quit, I've been looking for alternatives. And I have to tell you, what I heard from Bob and Sarah was impressive - I suspect the Greens will top my Legislative Council voting - even if it does take me 10 minutes to fill out the huge sheet below the line.

Just crossed to Visy Park!!!!
 
Macjoe said:
Tuned into 5aa early, can't wait for the game to start!!

By chance, 5aa had Bob Brown and Sarah Hanson-Young, Federal Greens senators on until 3pm.

I haven't really followed the Greens - I was an early convert of Don Chipp's "Keep the Bastards Honest" Democrats years ago, and they have been my Upper House alternative. But since the Democrats sold out, and Nat S-D quit, I've been looking for alternatives. And I have to tell you, what I heard from Bob and Sarah was impressive - I suspect the Greens will top my Legislative Council voting - even if it does take me 10 minutes to fill out the huge sheet below the line.

Just crossed to Visy Park!!!!
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I by no means support the Greens on anything they believe in or do but I believe they offer a valuable voice and add to the discussion. The parliament is better for having them there.

Also, the more minor parties that get in to block Rannbo's wet dream of abolishing the Legislative Council the better:thumbsu:
 
Macjoe said:
Tuned into 5aa early, can't wait for the game to start!!

By chance, 5aa had Bob Brown and Sarah Hanson-Young, Federal Greens senators on until 3pm.

I haven't really followed the Greens - I was an early convert of Don Chipp's "Keep the Bastards Honest" Democrats years ago, and they have been my Upper House alternative. But since the Democrats sold out, and Nat S-D quit, I've been looking for alternatives. And I have to tell you, what I heard from Bob and Sarah was impressive - I suspect the Greens will top my Legislative Council voting - even if it does take me 10 minutes to fill out the huge sheet below the line.

Just crossed to Visy Park!!!!
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They're tipped to get another candidate into the Upper House this year. They're also improving their percentages in various districts, as shown by the Advertisers poll in Bright, which has them at around 10%, which is streaks ahead of the other minor parties. On the top of my list atm.
 

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Why is Nick Xenophon still poking his nose in the state politics, he moved to Canberra, how about he just worry about whats happening over there.

I dont mind the bloke but Im a bit over him at the moment.
 
Blue Red and Gold said:
Why is Nick Xenophon still poking his nose in the state politics, he moved to Canberra, how about he just worry about whats happening over there.

I dont mind the bloke but Im a bit over him at the moment.
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I would say he's fighting the good fight quite well, particularly regarding Scientology.

Also impossible to argue with anything he said about Rann.
 
It's relevant in the context of a discussion of Nick X's recent activities.

But if you want to be utterly pedantic let's talk about the MHS affair that hasn't yet been fully investigated ...
 
I dont mind the scientology thing, that doesnt affect state politics, as Macjoe pointed out. What I dont like is he making an agreement/alliance/whatever it is with Redmond, he has quit state politics, he cant have it both ways.
 

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