Bailey01
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Yes but is it not true that more people die from alcohol and cigarettes than marijuana?
If that shits legal then surely maryjane should.
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If that shits legal then surely maryjane should.
Direct vs indirect
More people die from direct links to alcohol and tobacco use, but, whilst the advocates will tell you it's fine, possible links to mental health issues which cause death say it isn't a "clean" drug
Then there is also the fact humans are greedy
If marihuana is legalised, users of another drug will begin campaigning
To quote "God" from Futurama "sometimes the best thing you can do is to do nothing at all"
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had a day out with a friend of mine yesterday and she managed to smoke 5 spliffs in 7hrs...and I ended up talking to myself! I don't smoke and I felt like I stuck in a bad situation. When we finally arrived back in Melbourne and she'd sobered up she started talking again!
Yeah, I think about the same over here. If Trudeau gets in then it will be pretty quick.
Are there medical dispenceries in Australia? Is that what your friend does? I have a mate who goes to one and the different varieties out there are interesting.
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Queen Victoria drank ganja-tea
For period pain
For period pain
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How was his point inaccurate?
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/government-admits-marijuana-kills-cancer-cells-kidnap-cage-kill/
The institute has revised a page on its website entitled “DrugFacts: Is Marijuana Medicine?” citing a recent study conducted by a group of scientists at St. George’s University, London.
“Recent animal studies have shown that marijuana extracts may help kill certain cancer cells and reduce the size of others,” the NIDA report stated, adding that evidence from “one cell culture study suggests that purified extracts from whole-plant marijuana can slow the growth of cancer cells from one of the most serious types of brain tumors.”
The study, published in the Molecular Cancer Therapeutics journal in November, discovered that cannabis helps “dramatically reduce” the growth of new brain cancer cells.
“The benefits of the cannabis plant elements were known before but the drastic reduction of brain cancers if used with irradiation is something new and may well prove promising for patients who are in gravely serious situations with such cancers in the future,” Dr Wai Liu, Senior Research Fellow and lead researcher on the project, said.
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/go...r-cells-kidnap-cage-kill/#cyLbDbq8K9EUfitz.99
The institute has revised a page on its website entitled “DrugFacts: Is Marijuana Medicine?” citing a recent study conducted by a group of scientists at St. George’s University, London.
“Recent animal studies have shown that marijuana extracts may help kill certain cancer cells and reduce the size of others,” the NIDA report stated, adding that evidence from “one cell culture study suggests that purified extracts from whole-plant marijuana can slow the growth of cancer cells from one of the most serious types of brain tumors.”
The study, published in the Molecular Cancer Therapeutics journal in November, discovered that cannabis helps “dramatically reduce” the growth of new brain cancer cells.
“The benefits of the cannabis plant elements were known before but the drastic reduction of brain cancers if used with irradiation is something new and may well prove promising for patients who are in gravely serious situations with such cancers in the future,” Dr Wai Liu, Senior Research Fellow and lead researcher on the project, said.
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/go...r-cells-kidnap-cage-kill/#cyLbDbq8K9EUfitz.99
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More reason to ban Hoochy weed. If it can cure cancer and has enjoyable side effects it will effect illegal drug sales and legal drug sales making the thinking pollie nervous.
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With a decent lawyer he could get that down 6 months on a good behaviour bond.
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma...is-potential-cure-cancer/#xpRwHaGpfulQEFsK.16
Atlanta, Ga. – In a surprising move, CNN is reporting that marijuana may be a potential cure for certain types of cancer after numerous studies have shown the viability of cannabis as a potential cancer treatment. The report of marijuana being a potential cure was less surprising than the fact that it was covered prominently by a mainstream media outlet.
The stunning admission comes as Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent, has gone on record stating,
“It’s time for a medical marijuana revolution.”
The research, cited by CNN, was conducted in numerous preclinical studies on mice and rats, as well as human cells. It has shown “that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells,”according to the National Cancer Institute at the National Institute of Health.
Additionally, the National Cancer Institute reports that a study in mice “showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.”
Atlanta, Ga. – In a surprising move, CNN is reporting that marijuana may be a potential cure for certain types of cancer after numerous studies have shown the viability of cannabis as a potential cancer treatment. The report of marijuana being a potential cure was less surprising than the fact that it was covered prominently by a mainstream media outlet.
The stunning admission comes as Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent, has gone on record stating,
“It’s time for a medical marijuana revolution.”
The research, cited by CNN, was conducted in numerous preclinical studies on mice and rats, as well as human cells. It has shown “that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells,”according to the National Cancer Institute at the National Institute of Health.
Additionally, the National Cancer Institute reports that a study in mice “showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.”
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-19/queensland-victoria-join-nsw-medicinal-cannabis-trial/6403760
Victoria's Health Minister Jill Hennessy said the first trial would be open to children with severe, drug resistant epilepsy, due to start mid next year.
"There's a series of experts that oversee the eligibility for who gets to partake and we'll be doing all we can to support Victorian families and Victorian kids who meet that eligibility criteria to participate in the trial," she said.
Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the focus of the trial would be for families whose children suffer from life-threatening seizures.
"Sometimes they're happening on a weekly and a daily basis, being rushed to hospital and this medical cannabis oil, there's scientific research which says that it can alleviate the pain that these young children are going through," she said.
Victoria's Health Minister Jill Hennessy said the first trial would be open to children with severe, drug resistant epilepsy, due to start mid next year.
"There's a series of experts that oversee the eligibility for who gets to partake and we'll be doing all we can to support Victorian families and Victorian kids who meet that eligibility criteria to participate in the trial," she said.
Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the focus of the trial would be for families whose children suffer from life-threatening seizures.
"Sometimes they're happening on a weekly and a daily basis, being rushed to hospital and this medical cannabis oil, there's scientific research which says that it can alleviate the pain that these young children are going through," she said.
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if he got himself a decent job in the public service first, he wouldn't need a lawyer.
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There has been some progression here in Aus with legalising medical use. Thinking about recreational use and legalising it, seeing as though it has been a positive for places such as Washington and Denver, how long until Australia, or at least a state, legalises recreational marijuana?
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roscreasl98
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More sensationalist, internet trolling, cherry picking and paraphrasing from Snake_Baker.
How do you know that the drug seller didn't have 20 priors, or more?
Pretty sure, at 59 years of age, it wasn't his first offence?
He was probably selling to creeps like the grooming piece of s**t, and to 14 year olds as well.
Your stories rarely stack up, and this is no exception......
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roscreasl98
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Apparently this hard done by drug dealer, also copped 5 years in 2005......
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Cannabis and it’s oils will be legalised but thc will not
While there are many good reasons to legalize based on health benefits and basic harm reduction, that's not the motivation behind most government decisions.
I think it boils down to money and opportunity.
Is there revenue to be generated for the government? Yes? Let's take a look at it.
Does it seem to be a popular thing right now? Yes? Let's take a look at it.
Short term thinking that always looks to exploit current perceived opportunites for increased personal popularity and monetary gain.
I think it boils down to money and opportunity.
Is there revenue to be generated for the government? Yes? Let's take a look at it.
Does it seem to be a popular thing right now? Yes? Let's take a look at it.
Short term thinking that always looks to exploit current perceived opportunites for increased personal popularity and monetary gain.
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From Fiona Patten, the only politician in Victoria that deserves their pay:
Fiona Patten Challenges Premier and Opposition Leader With New ‘Tough on Drugs’ Paradigm – Media Release
Monday, 19 February 2018
Reason Party MP, Fiona Patten, has challenged both the Premier and the Leader of the Opposition to enact new laws around drugs that would be the toughest ever introduced in Victoria. She said they would smash the $8 billion dollar illegal drug empire overnight and reduce the crime rate in the state by a staggering 20%.
“My tough on drugs strategy begins by legalising cannabis which is the toughest measure that any government could apply to organised crime groups who make most of their money from the sale of illicit drugs”, she said. “Up until now, the tough on drugs strategy has been applied to the end users of the drugs and not the crime gangs who push them. This has been a disastrous misunderstanding of how to be ‘tough on drugs’.
Current estimates place the wholesale trade of illegal cannabis in Victoria at $1.5 billion which equates to more than $8 billion in retail sales. “We are spending millions while the criminals are making billions.”
“If Victoria legalised and regulated the sale of cannabis and taxed it a 30%, then that’s $2.4 billion that could be invested in schools, roads, hospitals and public transport. More importantly, it is $8 billion removed from the hands of hardened criminals and international crime syndicates who use those funds to build meth labs, purchase guns and even fund terrorist activities overseas,” said Patten .
“Our current legal framework criminalising the production, sale, possession and/or use of cannabis in Victoria is a Government endorsed racket which enables an unregulated multi-billion dollar black market industry to flourish”, she said. “That’s not a tough on crime strategy – mine is!
California, the fifth largest economy in the world has just undertaken this paradigm ‘tough on drugs’ shift which is expected to generate hundreds of millions of dollars in state taxes and smash crime syndicates. Canada will allow the national retail sale of cannabis from 1 July 2018. They expect to completely eradicate the black market sale and criminal profiteering of cannabis through taxation and government regulation.
Fiona Patten sits on Victoria’s Law Reform, Road and Community Safety Committee and initiated its current inquiry into Drug Law Reform in December 2015. The inquiry is Australia’s largest and most extensive inquiry into Drug Law Reform. Its report and recommendations will be tabled in Parliament at the end of March 2018.
https://fionapatten.com.au/news/challenges-leader-to-be-tough-on-drugs/
Fiona Patten Challenges Premier and Opposition Leader With New ‘Tough on Drugs’ Paradigm – Media Release
Monday, 19 February 2018
Reason Party MP, Fiona Patten, has challenged both the Premier and the Leader of the Opposition to enact new laws around drugs that would be the toughest ever introduced in Victoria. She said they would smash the $8 billion dollar illegal drug empire overnight and reduce the crime rate in the state by a staggering 20%.
“My tough on drugs strategy begins by legalising cannabis which is the toughest measure that any government could apply to organised crime groups who make most of their money from the sale of illicit drugs”, she said. “Up until now, the tough on drugs strategy has been applied to the end users of the drugs and not the crime gangs who push them. This has been a disastrous misunderstanding of how to be ‘tough on drugs’.
Current estimates place the wholesale trade of illegal cannabis in Victoria at $1.5 billion which equates to more than $8 billion in retail sales. “We are spending millions while the criminals are making billions.”
“If Victoria legalised and regulated the sale of cannabis and taxed it a 30%, then that’s $2.4 billion that could be invested in schools, roads, hospitals and public transport. More importantly, it is $8 billion removed from the hands of hardened criminals and international crime syndicates who use those funds to build meth labs, purchase guns and even fund terrorist activities overseas,” said Patten .
“Our current legal framework criminalising the production, sale, possession and/or use of cannabis in Victoria is a Government endorsed racket which enables an unregulated multi-billion dollar black market industry to flourish”, she said. “That’s not a tough on crime strategy – mine is!
California, the fifth largest economy in the world has just undertaken this paradigm ‘tough on drugs’ shift which is expected to generate hundreds of millions of dollars in state taxes and smash crime syndicates. Canada will allow the national retail sale of cannabis from 1 July 2018. They expect to completely eradicate the black market sale and criminal profiteering of cannabis through taxation and government regulation.
Fiona Patten sits on Victoria’s Law Reform, Road and Community Safety Committee and initiated its current inquiry into Drug Law Reform in December 2015. The inquiry is Australia’s largest and most extensive inquiry into Drug Law Reform. Its report and recommendations will be tabled in Parliament at the end of March 2018.
https://fionapatten.com.au/news/challenges-leader-to-be-tough-on-drugs/
roscreasl98
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Ms Patten has had what may be described as a checkered, and unconvincing career to date......
