Toast Mark Blicavs

[Moggy]

It's a pity that she doesn't like dudes

iameviljez thinks this post is not necessary.

I think it's fine though

Not one of your best, footscore.


IIRC, iameviljez spoke up about the use of an insulting term, not a simple reference to a sexual preference.

With respect to the problem at hand... no-one said she had to get in bed with Blitz. All we require is an egg and 9 months hosting

 

[Turbocat]

Good post.
In the recent interview, Blitz said his running performance had definitely taken a hit and that he had put on 8kgs, not 20. Pretty sure of that.

Even with the decline, he is still well ahead of the rest of the squad (and the competition perhaps).

I am sure his training program will see him maintain his edge and not bulk up too much. No point removing his biggest weapon. Hopefully he will be focussing on movement, overhead marking and foot/hand skills, so that he can really hurt the opposition when he inevitably finds space.

On thinking about it , I wonder if Geelong made a prep call on the 80 something rotations. Go with the Ballroom who can run all match without a rotation rather than OS who was basically stuffed after a half with rotations.

So with that in mind I doubt they will want to depreciate his stamina too much. I do think they will work on his first 20-30 M a bit , will put a little more weight on with muscle but really work on the areas they see as potential strengths that are a little off atm. If he can mark at 75% or better of Riewoldt he he become a huge weapon. If he can gather more experience in 1o1 marking he will be able to gain more chances at goal.

 

[Tee_P]

What do you guys think about playing Blicavs in the finals? He's not the quickest, but his tank is huge, and in a close finals match, crazy as it may sound now, he could be the difference in the last 5-10 minutes.

 

[meto]

What do you guys think about playing Blicavs in the finals? He's not the quickest, but his tank is huge, and in a close finals match, crazy as it may sound now, he could be the difference in the last 5-10 minutes.

Depends on his evolution, by then possible!

 

[BrockBlitz]

Good post.
In the recent interview, Blitz said his running performance had definitely taken a hit and that he had put on 8kgs, not 20. Pretty sure of that.

Even with the decline, he is still well ahead of the rest of the squad (and the competition perhaps).

I am sure his training program will see him maintain his edge and not bulk up too much. No point removing his biggest weapon. Hopefully he will be focussing on movement, overhead marking and foot/hand skills, so that he can really hurt the opposition when he inevitably finds space.

I am unsure how to quote properly from old conversations so this will have to do. I also can't find any of the old articles because they have all been taken down. But he was said to be 78 when he was training for the Olympics, after a bit of time off and some time in the gym post running pre rocking up to the cats he hit 87 (its hard to be 78 @198 - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/tea...for-the-long-run/story-e6frf9lo-1226624213132) and then has put on another 10 since then. Might have been 8 this year or since pre season.

year of the cat said: ↑

The boy can run! He appears to have a frame that could put weight on too. Let's hope that he can play now!​

I'm not sure about how much he can bulk up, but I hope you're right.

According to the Cats website he's 198 cm and only 78 kg, that's only 1 kg heavier than Shannon Byrnes at 175 cm.

Until he left to run in the European season, Mark was my masseur. He told me the club would like him to add another 10 kg, but even then, for his size he would still be relatively fragile. I guess the club feel that his speed, endurance and mobility will compensate for his lighter frame.

 

[Moggy]

I am unsure how to quote properly from old conversations so this will have to do. I also can't find any of the old articles because they have all been taken down. But he was said to be 78 when he was training for the Olympics, after a bit of time off and some time in the gym post running pre rocking up to the cats he hit 87 (its hard to be 78 @198 - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/tea...for-the-long-run/story-e6frf9lo-1226624213132) and then has put on another 10 since then. Might have been 8 this year or since pre season.

year of the cat said: ↑

The boy can run! He appears to have a frame that could put weight on too. Let's hope that he can play now!​

I'm not sure about how much he can bulk up, but I hope you're right.

According to the Cats website he's 198 cm and only 78 kg, that's only 1 kg heavier than Shannon Byrnes at 175 cm.

Until he left to run in the European season, Mark was my masseur. He told me the club would like him to add another 10 kg, but even then, for his size he would still be relatively fragile. I guess the club feel that his speed, endurance and mobility will compensate for his lighter frame.

Ok. His comment about 8kg was probably not relative to his initial weight on joining.
TBH, I would need to go back and listen again (its on the Cats website) but I don't have time/inclination

 

[Turbocat]

What do you guys think about playing Blicavs in the finals? He's not the quickest, but his tank is huge, and in a close finals match, crazy as it may sound now, he could be the difference in the last 5-10 minutes.

I suspect he will be like Mumford in that respect. CS will not want to play the season out with an identical setup. As much as we are going with the anti ruck , anti contested ball setup atm , I suspect the will want the ability to switch if need i a match. Hmac gives them the best chance of a dominant ruck division Add Vardy as the Xfactor and then it gets down to the fitness of better players with the ball than the Ballroom. If Varcoe is fit he will be in , if Rivers is fit he will probably be in. A lot of players to come back in , I cant see him holding his spot...but it depends on how the setup looks in the second 1/2 of the year. If we start to look like we lack run late who knows...

 

[darren forssman]

With respect to the problem at hand... no-one said she had to get in bed with Blitz. All we require is an egg and 9 months hosting

my mate also reckons there is another more crass option, but i will keep it pg and away from senator conroys 18 plus guidelines.

 

[mac_cat]

Ok. His comment about 8kg was probably not relative to his initial weight on joining.
TBH, I would need to go back and listen again (its on the Cats website) but I don't have time/inclination

I just listened again to the interview on ABC radio. The question was how much speed he'd lost in turning from an athlete into a footballer, and his answer was that he had definitely lost some pace, which was not surprising since he'd put on 8 kg.

So that does suggest that he's added just the 8 kg from his running days last year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-10/interview-mark-blicavs/4683218?section=sport

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

I just listened again to the interview on ABC radio. The question was how much speed he'd lost in turning from an athlete into a footballer, and his answer was that he had definitely lost some pace, which was not surprising since he'd put on 8 kg.

So that does suggest that he's added just the 8 kg from his running days last year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-10/interview-mark-blicavs/4683218?section=sport

And that's ultimately the trade-off: loss of endurance but greater strength vs. ability to keep running at top speed but less able to shake off a hit (or deliver one, RIP "the bump"). Which is why I suggested they'd keep him doing more running rather than getting too far into the bulking up, because no matter how fit you used to be, you're only as fit as your current training allows you to be.

 

[BrockBlitz]

Lets look at this logically rather than going of he said she said. If he is 98kgs now, that means he was 90kgs when he got to the club. Thats only 4kgs less than Usain Bolt. Blitz was definitely not only 4kg lighter than a world record 100 & 200m specialist (who is the same heigh, maybe an inch). He was a 1500m specialist. The number just don't add up. Look at some photos of him when he got drafted to now and then compare them to a ruckman who got drafted around the 80kg mark.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?um=...tbnh=199&tbnw=127&start=0&ndsp=18&tx=93&ty=83

If he was actually 90kgs when he ran 3:43 for 1500m i'll eat my hat.

 

[Rockford]

What do you guys think about playing Blicavs in the finals? He's not the quickest, but his tank is huge, and in a close finals match, crazy as it may sound now, he could be the difference in the last 5-10 minutes.

I would. He held up well against the Hawks in Round 1 in what was a Finals type atmosphere. He played well against the Bombers again in another Finals like atmosphere. I'd play him in our other high pressure games this season (Hawks return fixture, Freo, return fixture against Sydney) and then against West Coast to see him against Naitanui and Cox. If he can clear all of those hurdles (geddit? ) then I'd have him in.

 

[Moley Russels Wart]

Not one of your best, footscore.


IIRC, iameviljez spoke up about the use of an insulting term, not a simple reference to a sexual preference.

With respect to the problem at hand... no-one said she had to get in bed with Blitz. All we require is an egg and 9 months hosting

Doesn't everyone know that you can be politically correct and joke about sexuality as long as you follow with "not that there's anything wrong with that"??

 

[Moggy]

Lets look at this logically rather than going of he said she said.

More just a case of "he said".
No-one is disputing Blicavs words here, except perhaps yourself

 

[BrockBlitz]

More just a case of "he said".
No-one is disputing Blicavs words here, except perhaps yourself

I'm disputing the context, not what he said.

* http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...eat-leap-forward/story-e6frf9lo-1226609927980

about mid article.

 

[Moggy]

I'm disputing the context, not what he said.

* http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...eat-leap-forward/story-e6frf9lo-1226609927980

about mid article.

I imagine you are right in that, from his prime running weight, he has put on more than the 8 kgs.

My initial comment was that he had mentioned 8kgs in an interview, actually two interviews, recently. Probable explanation is that he was talking about 8kg since some more recent milestone, such as end of last season. Who knows.

My issue with your comment is that you were characterising the discussion as a "he said, she said" argument between posters, which it never was. In retrospect, I probably should have let it go thru to the keeper No hard feelings

 

[Moggy]

Doesn't everyone know that you can be politically correct and joke about sexuality as long as you follow with "not that there's anything wrong with that"??

Can't standzya!

 

[BrockBlitz]

I imagine you are right in that, from his prime running weight, he has put on more than the 8 kgs.

My initial comment was that he had mentioned 8kgs in an interview, actually two interviews, recently. Probable explanation is that he was talking about 8kg since some more recent milestone, such as end of last season. Who knows.

My issue with your comment is that you were characterising the discussion as a "he said, she said" argument between posters, which it never was. In retrospect, I probably should have let it go thru to the keeper No hard feelings

Agreed. Poor choice of words on my behalf.

 

[iameviljez]

Not one of your best, footscore.


IIRC, iameviljez spoke up about the use of an insulting term, not a simple reference to a sexual preference.

With respect to the problem at hand... no-one said she had to get in bed with Blitz. All we require is an egg and 9 months hosting

Thankyou.

 

[The rabbi]

I just finished watching the Essendon game and Blicavs can kick goals from 50. His goal (the first of the final 1/4) was kicked from right on the 50 arc. Only just got in though.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

It was great for a tentative first effort. The amount of confidence he'll get from kicking that shouldn't be underestimated, he'll back himself to take more marks in attacking 50.

 

[thegerman]

I tend to agree with some that his ability to win the ball aren't that high at the moment, his tapwork still is a learning experience; however, the thing that he has provided the most is the gut running. From one end to the other he is always on his bike. This means that someone has to cover him, as his opponent is mostly always a fair bit behind. Creation of that overlap, where we get the loose man in attack is one of the reasons why guys like Motlop, Stokes and Duncan are running free. He just creates that overlap, which really helps us going forward where we don't have to look for Hawkins or Pods in the lead up. It's the creation of the link play and run with ability where we have really excelled. That is a big tick for Blitz.

He too is starting to win over players, where they are comfortable looking for him in the F50.

 

[thegerman]

I know that at the moment Blicavs currently a 'B rookie' outside the list, but surely based on his first 7 games Geelong would already be talking to him about promoting him to the senior list at seasons end and they have to make a move before it gets to the end of the season which will give other teams get the chance to talk to him and get into his ear about more money, longer deal etc.
He is improving with each game he plays and he will only get better; he has a lot of upside and no doubt the other 17 teams would be taking notice - just don't want to see us get into the same position we were with Mumford where another team was able to come in & trump the offer (no complaints about the addition of Duncan though, is going to be a 10yr player for the Cats).
I know the club is probably currently dealing with a new contract for Taylor & making sure he stays, but I hope they don't just ignore Blicavs until it is too late as I doubt we would be lucky enough to keep him as a rookie next year with no one else putting an offer to him, and with the way he has played so far this year you want the option to pick him in the 22 without the next to promote him first.

I have no doubt he will be elevated next year. We may have to look at Walker as well, Burbs also will need to be looked at. Not a bad place to be in, with three rookies up for grabs.

 

[lukep]

I have no doubt he will be elevated next year. We may have to look at Walker as well, Burbs also will need to be looked at. Not a bad place to be in, with three rookies up for grabs.

I wouldn't think Geelong would upgrade him next year. I could be mistaken but there is not advantage of putting him on senior list. Especially when we have 3 other promising players who have to be upgraded or delisted (burbury, walker & eardley). Keep him on the category B for as long as they can I would suggest.

It's going to be difficult come end of year, depending on retirements, how many of the younger rookies we can keep. I have no doubt other clubs will be hovering around when the time comes

 

[Turbocat]

I have no doubt he will be elevated next year. We may have to look at Walker as well, Burbs also will need to be looked at. Not a bad place to be in, with three rookies up for grabs.

More confident than me. I would not be so certain... the main list , the Rookie list , the International list etc. are all just AFL mechanism's. For mine there shouldn't be a Rookie list , International etc not so fussed on but in general too many Rookies are just late picked kids like Walker or Sheringham and are doing all the work that list guys are.

But my opinion is irrelevant. There is a list and Geelong must do what they must to get the best players to the club. Having less picks in the Maindraft because of elevations and more picks in the Rookie draft would mean less of the highly fancied talented players to choose from.

So If we can keep Ballroom doing has stuff on there for as long as possible , the better we are. Walker and Burbs have reached their 3 year limit and must be listed. Blitz has not. Keep him there as long as possible while keeping him happy with appropriate remuneration and games etc.