Mark Ricciuto. Worst 8 time All-Australian of all time?

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

1994: Interchange
1997: Interchange
1998: Half Forward
2000: Interchange
2002: Interchange
2003: Half Forward
2004: Ruck Rover
2005: Half Forward

This guy was more of an AA accumulator(a testament to his consistency) than the best guy in his position year in year out.

Compare to Robert Harvey

1992: Half Forward
1994: Ruck Rover
1995: Ruck Rover
1996: Ruck Rover
1997: Ruck Rover
1998: Rover
1999: Ruck Rover
2003: Interchange

Or GAJ

2007: Rover
2008: Rover
2009: Rover
2010: Rover
2011: Rover
2012: Rover
2013: Rover
2014: Rover

Do interchange spots in the AA mean as much as other on-field positions? Is it fair to rate Ricciuto's 8 AA selections with 4 on the bench higher than someone with 6 AA's with none on the bench?

Riccuito's amount of AA's is used in arguments in his favour of his ranking among Hird, Voss, and Buckley.

Buckley 7 AA's. 7 on the field.
Voss 5 AA's. 5 on the field.
Ricciuto 8 AA's. 4 on the field.
Hird 5 AA's. 4 on the field.

 

[Benny78]

He was seriously underrated or overrated depending who you talk to.

 

[Golumless]

Uh-huh.

The only part of AA's that matter is you have them, your position in said side is completely irrelevant

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

He was seriously underrated or overrated depending who you talk to.

He is the GOAT Crows player. I am a big fan. It does throw up the idea of not all AA selections being equal though.

 

[mike123]

Lol can't wait for the s**t fight

 

[The Gov]

Probably not an unfair comment, especially when it comes to midfielders.

Every year there's plenty of good mids who could fill the spots. The absolute indisputable locks are generally put as Rover, RR and Centre, followed by the more outside-leaning mids on the wings and an attacking mid or two who might have just missed out on a centre spot chucked on the HFF. Then 2-3 mids on the interchange who seem the next rung down but still good enough to make the team.

All it says is that Ricciuto was consistently considered in the top 5-8 mids in those seasons but not perhaps in the top 2-3. Consistency should certainly be valued but 8 All Australians indicate a far more competition dominating player then perhaps he was

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

1994: Interchange
1997: Interchange
1998: Half Forward
2000: Interchange
2002: Interchange
2003: Half Forward
2004: Ruck Rover
2005: Half Forward

This guy was more of an AA accumulator(a testament to his consistency) than the best guy in his position year in year out.

Compare to Robert Harvey

1992: Half Forward
1994: Ruck Rover
1995: Ruck Rover
1996: Ruck Rover
1997: Ruck Rover
1998: Rover
1999: Ruck Rover
2003: Interchange

Or GAJ

2007: Rover
2008: Rover
2009: Rover
2010: Rover
2011: Rover
2012: Rover
2013: Rover
2014: Rover

Do interchange spots in the AA mean as much as other on-field positions? Is it fair to rate Ricciuto's 8 AA selections with 4 on the bench higher than someone with 6 AA's with none on the bench?

Riccuito's amount of AA's is used in arguments in his favour of his ranking among Hird, Voss, and Buckley.

Buckley 7 AA's. 7 on the field.
Voss 5 AA's. 5 on the field.
Ricciuto 8 AA's. 4 on the field.
Hird 5 AA's. 4 on the field.

If not for the Victorian bias, he would have been named in the starting 18, like in 1997 with 18 Brownlow votes... not that it really matters.

Roo & McLeod are comfortably the best 2 Crows players of all time.

 

[pirate bob]

Probably not an unfair comment, especially when it comes to midfielders.

Every year there's plenty of good mids who could fill the spots. The absolute indisputable locks are generally put as Rover, RR and Centre, followed by the more outside-leaning mids on the wings and an attacking mid or two who might have just missed out on a centre spot chucked on the HFF. Then 2-3 mids on the interchange who seem the next rung down but still good enough to make the team.

All it says is that Ricciuto was consistently considered in the top 5-8 mids in those seasons but not perhaps in the top 2-3. Consistency should certainly be valued but 8 All Australians indicate a far more competition dominating player then perhaps he was

Maybe, he dominated Dean Kemp in this 1 though

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Yep, and Tony Lockett is the worst AFL player to kick more than 1300 goals.

 

[Papa G]

Roochewtoe's football ability has an inverse relationship with his commentating ability.

 

[Cmarsh]

Harsh considering alot of people rank him alongside Mcleod as the greatest ever Crow.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

If not for the Victorian bias, he would have been named in the starting 18, like in 1997 with 18 Brownlow votes... not that it really matters.

Roo & McLeod are comfortably the best 2 Crows players of all time.

Interestingly in his Brownlow winning season of 2003 he was AA Half Forward. But the very next season where he put out near identical output he was named AA Ruck Rover. More recognition among the selectors. Meanwhile 30 vote polling Brownlow winning young Chris Judd was sitting on the wing of the AA team in 2004. Does show that some superficial things can sway decisions.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Terrible player

 

[Vindicater]

Hahaha.

This OP is big footy at its best.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Yep, and Tony Lockett is the worst AFL player to kick more than 1300 goals.

Do you reckon Robert Harvey or Ian Stewart is the worst back to back brownlow winner whilst playing for St Kilda?

 

[Rotayjay]

Hai Rucci

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Harsh considering alot of people rank him alongside Mcleod as the greatest ever Crow.

Ricciuto>Mcleod IMO. Am guessing if a poll was done on the Crows board that the same result would be seen.

 

[Upgrayedd]

He was better than Robert Harvey. If he played in Victoria he would of been rated with Buckley/Hird/Voss

However. Possibly?

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Hahaha.

This OP is big footy at its best.

Wait for the "Andrew McLeod. Worst back to back Norm Smith Medalist of all time?" thread.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

He was better than Robert Harvey. If he played in Victoria he would of been rated with Buckley/Hird/Voss

Considering he was inducted at the same time as Voss/Hird/Buckley I would say he was rated with them in the end.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Is Tuck the worst 420 game player ever?

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Is Tuck the worst 420 game player ever?

Not sure. Pretty confident he is the worst 7 time premiership player of all time though.

 

[pirate bob]

Not sure. Pretty confident he is the worst 7 time premiership player of all time though.

Nah .. that would just be a BS statement. I find it hard to believe you ever saw him play. Although he is probably the only 7 time premiership player in recent history ..

 

[Righteo]

Is Tuck the worst 420 game player ever?

I'd say so. Harry O's 420 game was far superior.

 

[Old Stuckup]

“Worst 8 time All-Australian of all time”.
The ultimate oxymoron.