Mark Ricciuto. Worst 8 time All-Australian of all time?

[Frank Gallagher]

No one cares about that, just that you were in the AA squad.

I'd take 8 AAs in a variety of positions over 3/4 in my preferred position all day, every day.

Why don't you just admit he was a s**t player who got very lucky when it came to accolades?











Kidding BTW.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Repost from a Nic Naitanui thread

Jusst wanna say, who cares if he doesn't make another All Australian. As I've got older I have come to the conclusion that AA is mainly just for kids to marvel at all star team and count the awards, doesn't mean too much. Naitanui has been top 2 or 3 ruck since 2011. Daniel Kerr and Dean Kemp made 1 All Australian, and Scott West and Brad Johnson 6. Fyfe and J Brown only have 2! It's folly to put massive credence on his career and memories whether Nicolas will make another AA, he is the ruckman of the decade

This

There has been better players who have only made 1-2 AA positions and guys who have 3-4 who are half the player as some of the guys who donbt have a AA jumper

Took S-Mitchell till about age 30 to win one

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Well since there have only been 3 8x All Australians, the answer is No.

That’s Robert Harvey.

 

[Roovolution]

1994: Interchange
1997: Interchange
1998: Half Forward
2000: Interchange
2002: Interchange
2003: Half Forward
2004: Ruck Rover
2005: Half Forward

This guy was more of an AA accumulator(a testament to his consistency) than the best guy in his position year in year out.

Compare to Robert Harvey

1992: Half Forward
1994: Ruck Rover
1995: Ruck Rover
1996: Ruck Rover
1997: Ruck Rover
1998: Rover
1999: Ruck Rover
2003: Interchange

Or GAJ

2007: Rover
2008: Rover
2009: Rover
2010: Rover
2011: Rover
2012: Rover
2013: Rover
2014: Rover

Do interchange spots in the AA mean as much as other on-field positions? Is it fair to rate Ricciuto's 8 AA selections with 4 on the bench higher than someone with 6 AA's with none on the bench?

Riccuito's amount of AA's is used in arguments in his favour of his ranking among Hird, Voss, and Buckley.

Buckley 7 AA's. 7 on the field.
Voss 5 AA's. 5 on the field.
Ricciuto 8 AA's. 4 on the field.
Hird 5 AA's. 4 on the field.

A great kick, a clutch player, literallty as hard as nails, could play mid or forward or almost anywhere if he wanted, great poise, courageous as any player ever, inspirational captain, brownlow medalist.....just shut up.

 

[Turnover]

Roo use to carry the ball well, 80 -90 metre player, long goals. Modra, McLeod close runners up for best player at crows.

 

[twiggy4PM]

“Worst 8 time All-Australian of all time”.
The ultimate oxymoron.

Not sure about the oxy part.

 

[aflcliche]

Yeah he's worse than Ablett so dud

 

[yyou]

His voice reminds me of:

 

[doppleganger]

If not for the Victorian bias, he would have been named in the starting 18, like in 1997 with 18 Brownlow votes... not that it really matters.

Roo & McLeod are comfortably the best 2 Crows players of all time.

Victorian bias...LoL

Like 2002, when Roo didn't even finish top 10 in the Crows BnF, yet was given an AA spot.

 

[dickballsack]

1994: Interchange
1997: Interchange
1998: Half Forward
2000: Interchange
2002: Interchange
2003: Half Forward
2004: Ruck Rover
2005: Half Forward

This guy was more of an AA accumulator(a testament to his consistency) than the best guy in his position year in year out.

Compare to Robert Harvey

1992: Half Forward
1994: Ruck Rover
1995: Ruck Rover
1996: Ruck Rover
1997: Ruck Rover
1998: Rover
1999: Ruck Rover
2003: Interchange

Or GAJ

2007: Rover
2008: Rover
2009: Rover
2010: Rover
2011: Rover
2012: Rover
2013: Rover
2014: Rover

Do interchange spots in the AA mean as much as other on-field positions? Is it fair to rate Ricciuto's 8 AA selections with 4 on the bench higher than someone with 6 AA's with none on the bench?

Riccuito's amount of AA's is used in arguments in his favour of his ranking among Hird, Voss, and Buckley.

Buckley 7 AA's. 7 on the field.
Voss 5 AA's. 5 on the field.
Ricciuto 8 AA's. 4 on the field.
Hird 5 AA's. 4 on the field.

What in the world would compel you to even think about judging such an elite accomplishment by a player?? Seriously what is it that you want to get out of this question?

 

[elMM]

What sort of bloke thinks about this on the edge of summer?

 

[Upgrayedd]

What sort of bloke thinks about this on the edge of summer?

Look at OP's user name and it's quite clear...

I bet he's also happy with the Shaun Marsh inclusion

 

[Kappa]

Is Callan Ward the worst GWS BnF winner of all time?

 

[Topkent]

Roo was an absolute monster of a player

 

[EB&W Pieman]

The AA Selection process is flawed.

The Panel is made up of blokes who live and breathe football - in Victoria, plus a couple of token non-Vics. They know who the stars are in the non-Vic teams but are lost when discussing new talent or 'good solid' footballers North or West of the Murray. Players in Victorian teams who have a career season often make AA (Heretier O'Brien is a classic example), but NO ONE plying their trade outside Victoria does this.

The pay back is that, once a player becomes established as a STAR in a non-Vic team, he becomes the go-to man for the AA selectors. The most obvious beneficiaries of this are Ricciutto and Goodes, both of whom received multiple AA awards even in their average seasons. You can hear the selectors "The Swans did finish third so someone from there needs to get picked" "Hmmm good point. Goodsey can have Chappy's spot on a HFF"

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Look at OP's user name and it's quite clear...

I bet he's also happy with the Shaun Marsh inclusion

That is just ******* harsh. You had to take it too far.

 

[Kingfish73]

Roochewtoe's football ability has an inverse relationship with his commentating ability.

Yeah one slashed wrist for Roo and one for Ling

 

[Leather Poisoning]

The AA Selection process is flawed.

The Panel is made up of blokes who live and breathe football - in Victoria, plus a couple of token non-Vics. They know who the stars are in the non-Vic teams but are lost when discussing new talent or 'good solid' footballers North or West of the Murray. Players in Victorian teams who have a career season often make AA (Heretier O'Brien is a classic example), but NO ONE plying their trade outside Victoria does this.

The pay back is that, once a player becomes established as a STAR in a non-Vic team, he becomes the go-to man for the AA selectors. The most obvious beneficiaries of this are Ricciutto and Goodes, both of whom received multiple AA awards even in their average seasons. You can hear the selectors "The Swans did finish third so someone from there needs to get picked" "Hmmm good point. Goodsey can have Chappy's spot on a HFF"

I think you might be into something here. Goodes, Pavlich and Ricciuto seemed to be picked on default for a few seasons there.

But looking at the spread in the last 3 aa teams there are a couple of non-vic one season pop ins (rampe, gaffe, Greene)

 

[Tuco]

Not sure why anyone would underrate Ricciutto.

Basically did for Adel what burgoyne does for the Hawks - change games in his team's favour by force of will.

 

[Listclogger]

OP added to ignore list - waste of space

 

[BattlerGM]

This thread is like asking between a 9, 10 and 11 incher, who's utensil is the smallest?

 

[Schauermann]

Is Tuck the worst 420 game player ever?

He used to be...

 

[threesixpio]

Yep, and Tony Lockett is the worst AFL player to kick more than 1300 goals.

lol

 

[demondavey]

Rubbish, everyone would prefer to be named on the ground, if you're on the bench that means you weren't the best in your position.

It means * all. To put it bluntly, Ricciutto was as good as Buckley. Some argue better.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Roo was a great footballer, probably not the true elite mids of the 00s like Cousins, GAJ, Voss, Hird & Simon Black but would be next level with players like Scott West, Lenny Hayes, Daniel Kerr, Dane Swan etc.