Roast Marlion Pickett go fund me and neal balme comments

[campbell]

What is wrong with education on how to manage your finances better to not end up in this situation so quickly.

What is wrong with that?

Plenty.
You have nfi how he manages his life.It is not for you to judge, let alone demean him as being dumb at managing his finances.

 

[My Tilly]

Honestly.

Everyone is hurting. Give the guy a break.

The difference is, people in the general public will be struggling for many years after this pandemic whereas an AFL footballer such as Pickett, he will be back on 100k-300k over the next couple of years again.

 

[theyellowsash]

Plenty of people are out of work and struggling financially, while Marlion isn’t out of work and is likely to double if not triple his current annual earning capacity over the next few years. He also chose to have 4 kids - no one forced him.

There’s people out there doing it tough - and of course there’s a huge spectrum of experiences due to the COVID19 lockdown and subsequent financial implications - but Marlion isn’t one of them.

But those people are allowed to find a second job or access government money. Picket is legally forbidden from doing either.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Plenty.
You have nfi how he manages his life.It is not for you to judge, let alone demean him as being dumb at managing his finances.

Do you not want someone's situation to improve?

 

[La Dispute]

But those people are allowed to find a second job or access government money. Picket is legally forbidden from doing either.

Are these same people going to double or triple their incomes by their next contract extension?

If Marlion was playing this smart he’d be telling his manager to get him back to WA come contract renewal time, as I’m sure either the Eagles or Freo would be happy to sign him up from 300k over 3 years.

This is short term pain for what is going to lead to a very fruitful few years for him.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Can anyone in this entire thread put up an argument for why it would not be beneficial for someone suffering financial hardship to be given more education on how to manage their finances?

An essential life skill.

What is the possible downside?

Why do so many people get offended at this notion rather than seeing the positives?

 

[campbell]

Are these same people going to double or triple their incomes by their next contract extension?

If Marlion was playing this smart he’d be telling his manager to get him back to WA come contract renewal time, as I’m sure either the Eagles or Freo would be happy to sign him up from 300k over 3 years.

This is short term pain for what is going to lead to a very fruitful few years for him.

Tell that to his kids next week, when they need warm clothes......

 

[BF Tiger]

So guy has has made a few bad choices in life but seemingly turned it around. Maybe doesn’t have the best financial literacy, but for all we know has been smashed by the share market in recent months, ripped off by a financial advisor or has had an inordinate amount of expenses over the past ten years. For some reason though he is banned from a second job that is being offered to him to help rectify the situation he finds himself in. Ironically that second job is educating young aboriginal people about making good life choices and how some bad decisions can be turned around. And the cycle continues.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Tell that to his kids next week, when they need warm clothes......

Talk about being patronising of someone. You get angry at the suggestion of education on managing finances and yet here you are implying that he cannot even put clothing on his kids.

 

[La Dispute]

Tell that to his kids next week, when they need warm clothes......

And these kids wouldn’t exist if Marlion had done the responsible thing and waited until he was financially secure to build himself a big family.

Being on a low income also isn’t a new thing for Marlion, and if he could manage while playing state league footy he can certainly get through the year; at which point whether he stays at Richmond or does the smart thing and heads home he’s going to be earning a whole lot more.

 

[jihg]

Can anyone in this entire thread put up an argument for why it would not be beneficial for someone suffering financial hardship to be given more education on how to manage their finances?

An essential life skill.

What is the possible downside?

Why do so many people get offended at this notion rather than seeing the positives?

My understanding is that clubs do this however l would guess that in all the cuts clubs have had to make this might be one that has gone.

He was a mid season selection so not dure whether he gets full wage or not but at a guess not. He has then moved to a new state that doesn't come free to do and get his whole family over as well. Add in cost of living.

People are also assuming he was not responsible with his finances. Not saying one say or the other but probably didn't have a huge amount of savings when he moved over. Then it is possible that he had budgeted to make it through this year as he consolidated a place in the team to set him and his family up over the nect few years but with the unforseen circumstances of a shutdown with reduction in pay has hurt before he has had time to buold a nest egg.

I would hope that the club gave explored Centrelink assistance for him. This whole story has come about because Richmond wanted to stay above board with salary cap and Balme was asked a question which he answered honestly. Also Pickett hasn't asked for the gofundme to be set up it was done by a supporter of the club.

That all said l can see why the AFL would say no to it. Way to open for rorting and agree with those saying AFLPA have let the lower paid players down.

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[campbell]

And these kids wouldn’t exist if Marlion had done the responsible thing and waited until he was financially secure to build himself a big family.

Being on a low income also isn’t a new thing for Marlion, and if he could manage while playing state league footy he can certainly get through the year; at which point whether he stays at Richmond or does the smart thing and heads home he’s going to be earning a whole lot more.

Ffs, get your hand off it.
Disgusting judgemental post.

 

[Bombermania]

And these kids wouldn’t exist if Marlion had done the responsible thing and waited until he was financially secure to build himself a big family.

Being on a low income also isn’t a new thing for Marlion, and if he could manage while playing state league footy he can certainly get through the year; at which point whether he stays at Richmond or does the smart thing and heads home he’s going to be earning a whole lot more.

The problem with this worldview is that many financially secure people are now facing financial stress yet somehow you think Marlion should have planned.

 

[La Dispute]

Ffs, get your hand off it.
Disgusting judgemental post.

Choosing to have children is a personal decision, and when you make that choice you have to know there are particular financial obligations that go along with it.

Now Marlion did this while making a minimal amount at a WAFL club, so why should we feel sorry for him now he’s made it to the AFL and has the opportunity to boost his salary in a big way in the coming years?

It’s a slap in the face to those who’ve had their incomes halved and won’t ever earn more than their pre-Covid salary.

 

[La Dispute]

The problem with this worldview is that many financially secure people are now facing financial stress yet somehow you think Marlion should have planned.

Him having 4 kids and earning little isn’t a new thing though - this was also occurring while he was playing in the WAFL.

My opinion would be the same either way: don’t have kids until you are financially secure.

 

[campbell]

Him having 4 kids and earning little isn’t a new thing though - this was also occurring while he was playing in the WAFL.

My opinion would be the same regardless either way: don’t have kids until you are financially secure.

So, people having children, when one person is working at Woolies, are negligen in your eyes?

 

[PatrickBateman]

IMO your words about race and culture are insulting to our First Nations people.

Fair enough, I disagree.

 

[La Dispute]

So, people having children, when one person is working at Woolies, are negligen in your eyes?

If they are struggling financially to afford the cost of having a kid, of course.

 

[Redline]

Regardless of everything that has happened someone needs to talk to him about post retirement as like many footballers he won't move from AFL into normal life at the same pay rate. This pay drop is nothing.

 

[PatrickBateman]

Wrong thread mate.
You belong in the single parent payments thread.

I have no interest in that thread mate, I'm not a single parent. But yeah, what I've said is certainly relevant for that topic... true.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Him having 4 kids and earning little isn’t a new thing though - this was also occurring while he was playing in the WAFL.

My opinion would be the same either way: don’t have kids until you are financially secure.

However that does not change or add anything constructive to his current situation

 

[La Dispute]

However that does not change or add anything constructive to his current situation

Of course it does.

The emotional appeal is ‘poor ol Marlion has to support 4 kids on 45k - however we will he manage?’

Yet he would have been earning little more a year ago when he was playing WAFL, at which point he wasn’t on an AFL list and didn’t have the opportunity to earn more.

There would be thousands of people operating under worse circumstances. People with families who will suffer not only in the short term, but may not ever return to their pre-Covid wages - These are the people who deserve our sympathy and support.

Marlion at worst will have one year on a poor contract before moving onto a very good pay packet, either at Richmond or elsewhere. As I have said, if he was smart he’d get his manager talking to both Fremantle and West Coast as soon as possible to organise a move back to WA for next season.

 

[the harry]

If only one parent was working, and not educated, maybe they should of stopped having so many children?? You know, personal responsibility? Got nothing to do with race. You see it a lot in poor areas. Deadbeat dads with neck tattoos and obvious drug issues dragging along 3 kids they clearly cannot look after, moms pregnant with number 4. It's a ******* disgrace, and it's the rest of society who has to deal with the repercussions of these idiots.

I'd love to get a view on Beams from you.

 

[the harry]

If they are struggling financially to afford the cost of having a kid, of course.

Do you want him to sell his kids off if he's struggling? I'm sure he might change things he's done in his earlier life if he had the chance. But what good is telling him "looks like things haven't gone perfectly for you, eh?" now when he's currently in a pinch?

Lot of people living perfect lives in this thread.

 

[campbell]

If they are struggling financially to afford the cost of having a kid, of course.

A lot of kids wouldnt be here if they thought like you.

You deal the cards you are dealt, you adapt, you love your kids.
You don’t ever make ita prerequisite to only have kids when you have mythical amount in mind to do so.