Marriage equality debate - The plebiscite is on its way. (Cont in Pt 3)

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Kirsti if you marry your girlfriend and the marriage fails how would the family court know who's life to ruin?
Hopefully two girls in love can have a greater chance of succeeding than alot of heterosexual marriages lately.

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Gotta disguise your homophobia somehow. I'd like to see a bit more honesty from the anti gay marriage brigade. Be loud, be proud, say it like it is, I don't like poofs, and don't think they should be allowed to marry. Stop trying to hide what you are with weasel words, and have baked ideas ffs, come out boys, you've nothing to be afraid of, embrace your bigotry.
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Gotta disguise your homophobia somehow. I'd like to see a bit more honesty from the anti gay marriage brigade. Be loud, be proud, say it like it is, I don't like poofs, and don't think they should be allowed to marry. Stop trying to hide what you are with weasel words, and have baked ideas ffs, come out boys, you've nothing to be afraid of, embrace your bigotry.
Like millions of others I'm not gay or homophobic and because there's nothing in this for me personally my care factor is zero. So I'm toying with voting "NO" anyway... because I can (and I'm a... scallywag) and also due to nonsense written like this. Bring on the Plaba.. Plebba ...vote! Yay democracy!
 
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Like millions of others I'm not gay or homophobic and because there's nothing in this for me personally my care factor is zero. I'm toying with voting "NO" however... because I can (and I'm a... scallywag) and also due to nonsense written like this.
You'd vote no, to just annoy people?

This isn't whether to turn your clocks back.

This is people's lives. Smh.
 

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You'd vote no, to just annoy people?
Yes plus I know better than gay people what they want. Marriage only exists because women force the rest of us into it. No married man is happy. Gay men only want marriage because they cant have it and gay women don't need marriage because I assume they are both there on their own free will. If "gay" people do win the right to marriage we'd have to invent a new word to refer to them other than gay. Like Sad.
 
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Yes plus I know better than gay people what they want. Marriage only exists because women force the rest of us into it. No married man is happy. Gay men only want marriage because they cant have it and gay women don't need marriage because I assume they are both there on their own free will. If "gay" people do win the right to marriage we'd have to invent a new word to refer to them other than gay. Like Sad.
Sure.
 

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it is neither a requirement nor is it possible for all heterosexual relationships to reproduce, the relationship itself has no value, At most you claim it has "potential" but until a relationship yields results its worthless and as I've already explained, monogamous couples are an inferior way to reproduce. This can not be argued it is simply math.

If your marking contribution to society via reproduction you, your partner and your entire marriage are inferior to a single mother of 7 who's had kids to 5 different men.
Why argue this way at all? It is freaking obvious to anyone that the beginning of a traditional family was a male and female reproducing which has developed society as we know it. This is what created you. You're bringing up an exception and saying that the exception makes the norm obsolete. This is wrong.
Advocating for a change to society is cool, but not recognising the traditional male - female relationship in getting us here adds no value, it's lame and counter productive.
 

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Why should any side be funded? What hate campaign? There wasn't any hate in Ireland and I don't have any hate.
When the advertising was going to be classified as political advertising so truth is no longer important what do you think they are going to do?
 

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Wow, just finished watching Australian Story on the ABC, this is what the 'Yes' vote is all about!
Had a smile on my face but a sad feeling inside, two people that really love each and just want to get married.
Just change the law, it is not a big deal and not affecting anyone else.
 
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Wow, just finished watching Australian Story on the ABC, this is what the 'Yes' vote is all about!
Had a smile on my face but a sad feeling inside, two people that really love each and just want to get married.
Just change the law, it is not a big deal and not affecting anyone else.
 

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That's where we first met playing soccer against each other, my team won..
The problem with football pitches is that there not have a roof. There is nothing sadder that a wet bride. Unless it's 2 wet brides.
Also don't go strapless. Friends have cutting the cake photos with nipple in it.

Here is your prezzie.
Do funny, surprising, silly, unexpected, queer, stupid, or embarrassing things to keep the fire burning.
See that couple at the cafe, sitting in prefect discontented silents or those where one's job is to point out everything the other does is wrong.
Promise each other you will not be that couple.
 

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I am very troubled that people on the site are posting that a man's relationship with his wife is the most important.
This of course is not true.
There is your dog and car.
A man's most important relationship is with his mates.
What does a wife bring to a relationship, sex, food, work, money, bring me beer, someone to look after the kids, clean me house, and mow the lawn.
But she doesn't know Bradmans average or what a carbi is.
And when you try to explain the offside trap she don't even try to understand and complains she's tired.
 

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perhaps your right, it would explain why our parliament has been so shithouse in the last 15 years, a bunch of emotive *******s making decisions, rather then proper analysis of facts.
It's even more nebulous than that. I think (though not wanting to put words in Evo's keyboard) it's not the politicians who are being emotional. They are trying to gauge the emotional state of their so-called constituents. An even more fraught exercise. The concept of an emotional politician, with very few exceptions, is a contradiction in terms.
 

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Why argue this way at all? It is freaking obvious to anyone that the beginning of a traditional family was a male and female reproducing which has developed society as we know it. This is what created you. You're bringing up an exception and saying that the exception makes the norm obsolete. This is wrong.
Advocating for a change to society is cool, but not recognising the traditional male - female relationship in getting us here adds no value, it's lame and counter productive.
Perhaps look at the argument being presented. according to the person i replied to, homosexual relationships are of lesser value because they do not reproduce.

if your going to argue the value of models of relationships based off of reproduction, then it follows monogamy is simply inferior. i never said it was obsolete merely inferior from a reproductive stand point and further to that any heterosexual couple which does not reproduce is as inferior as a homosexual relationship.

If your going to base an argument around reproduction as the value of a relationship and shape our laws around the effectiveness of reproduction marriage quite simply is an inferior model.

If this upsets you, then perhaps you will find comfort in the knowledge that marriage laws in this country have nothing to do with reproduction? Of course if you think it should be the arbiter of deciding who and who cannot marry then you should be in favor of screen potential couples for genetic weaknesses and ensuring they can actually reproduce effectively.

all i'm asking is that those who advocate against same sex marriage on the basis of reproduction draw proper conclusions from such thinking. If you choose to believe that your relationship is superior based on reproduction, you must understand how effectively you reproduce also weighs in relation your own superiority and inferiority of other couples.

how many children do you have? please tell us so we can judge the value of your relationship. If its 2 or less then based on statistics, on a national scale your relationship is inferior to most couples, If you have none you may as well **** a bloke.

its not a hard concept to understand. you cant have things both ways, either reproduction determines the value of a relationship or it doesn't.
 
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