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I sincerely hope Wandavision was an anomoly in terms of poor writing and red herrings.
Marvel hasnt generally done that.
Marvel hasnt generally done that.
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‘WandaVision’: Elizabeth Olsen and Jac Schaeffer on Wanda’s Kids, Fan Theories and the Future of the Show
Elizabeth Olsen and Jac Schaeffer talk "WandaVision," casting Evan Peters as Pietro, Wanda's twin boys and the future of the show.variety.com
They still seem pretty happy with themselves about the use of Evan Peters. Even Matt Shakman was laughing about it on Fatman Beyond.
The writer said she naively didnt think people would speculate that much about it. Well Fiege would have known. I think as a sign of goodwill they should release Black Widow free on disney+ none of this premier access BS.
Seriously though for months ive been thinking Tobey and Garfield will be in the next Spider-man. Now im not so sure even though they said thats a multiverse movie. I dont see how that happens now as I was thinking this whole time the multiverse would come into play in Wandavision but it didnt happen. Logically it would be better of starting in Dr Strange 2 but Spider-man comes out first.
I think they’ll be in there but like the scene in GOTG2 where Rocket steps through multiple portals and we see Stan and the Watchers, I expect this is where we will see the snippet of a multiverse/spider verse....a blink and you’ve missed it scenario.Seriously though for months ive been thinking Tobey and Garfield will be in the next Spider-man. Now im not so sure even though they said thats a multiverse movie. I dont see how that happens now as I was thinking this whole time the multiverse would come into play in Wandavision but it didnt happen. Logically it would be better of starting in Dr Strange 2 but Spider-man comes out first.
I sincerely hope Wandavision was an anomoly in terms of poor writing and red herrings.
Marvel hasnt generally done that.
I couldn’t have anticipated… I don’t know, maybe Mary Livanos and Kevin Feige are like, “Yeah, it’s like this every time.” But I’m like, these theories are crazy! [Laughing] So it wasn’t that was not part of my thinking, and also, that’s not my department. I am lucky enough that I get to hear about the other projects and sometimes I’m involved and their conversations. I know a little bit about all the things that Lizzie’s been up to. But that’s a bigger, fancier thing, what you’re asking about.
No but very deliberating building stuff up for no outcome is. They did that on a few occasions in wandavision.The Bohner thing was lame as but I didn't mind it really. People getting annoyed cos it didn't go the way they thought it would isn't bad writing.
Did they build stuff up or did everyone speculating about it build it up?
Entertainment is a subjective medium, if people enjoyed Wandavision, more power to them.
I guess people including myself looked too much into Feige's comment of DS2 "connecting directly to the events of Wandavision" + Peters making the connection of the Multiverse. Don't think they were unreasonable jumps though.
Once you take away the red herrings and easter eggs, there isn't a hell of a lot of substance to a 9 episode show IMO.
MCU content is pretty cookie cutter popcorn fare that usually you can turn your brain off. Just think it was disappointing that they looked to be risky and try something new, and it ended up being even more paint by numbers than what Marvel usually produce.
Did they build stuff up or did everyone speculating about it build it up?
We got White Vision and a great Agatha. You be fools for not being happy.
Entertainment is a subjective medium, if people enjoyed Wandavision, more power to them.
I guess people including myself looked too much into Feige's comment of DS2 "connecting directly to the events of Wandavision" + Peters making the connection of the Multiverse. Don't think they were unreasonable jumps though.
Did they build stuff up or did everyone speculating about it build it up?
Bit of both.
As i mentioned earlier i think, throughout the movies saga they dropped in stan lee. Then it became a game of who can spot stan lee first in the next movie. Then that was going to lose its lustre, so what next? fire up clues in the credits. Fire starts to die down, do something else.
But when watching a movie you cant stop and comment on social media, so things move fast. but here in the covid normal life we get episodes once a week. Lots of time to look for easter eggs, and draw conclusions based on tidbits.
I remember when heads turned jon snow parentage, people were doing algebra R + L = J. It became all compassing. Suddenly it was like a bag of scrabble letters!
Fiege also said outright that the TV shows wouldn’t be compulsory viewing for the movies so expecting them to drop major story beats like the multiverse in the show was definitely expecting too much. I took the Evan Peters casting as an in joke and it landed beautifully.I guess people including myself looked too much into Feige's comment of DS2 "connecting directly to the events of Wandavision" + Peters making the connection of the Multiverse. Don't think they were unreasonable jumps though.
Bit of both.
As i mentioned earlier i think, throughout the movies saga they dropped in stan lee. Then it became a game of who can spot stan lee first in the next movie. Then that was going to lose its lustre, so what next? fire up clues in the credits. Fire starts to die down, do something else.
But when watching a movie you cant stop and comment on social media, so things move fast. but here in the covid normal life we get episodes once a week. Lots of time to look for easter eggs, and draw conclusions based on tidbits.
I remember when heads turned jon snow parentage, people were doing algebra R + L = J. It became all compassing. Suddenly it was like a bag of scrabble letters!
Stan Lee wasn't exactly hidden and his cameos in Marvel films go back well before any Disney movies. The after-credit scenes existed at the same time as Lee's cameos in the Disney movies.
Yes it’s about doing somethjgg different. The films have evolved to a point that were now seeing so called red herrings or misdirects
I agreeThat's not what you said though.
It’s ironic, people that enjoyed the show are adamant anyone who didn’t was reading online theories and looking too much into it.
Honestly I didn’t read much online about the show, the bettany tweet and the Olsen tease were pretty much it.
I honestly think the elements I didn’t like were all confined to the show itself and the writing and plot choices. They just started a lot of threads that ultimately went nowhere. That’s got nothing to do with being a superfan and trying to find clues in every scene, that’s seeing what the showrunners put in front of us and seeing it amount to nothing. The first two eps were genuinely filler. Even the weird staggered post credits scenes, have them or don’t. It was ultimately an okay show with good performances but it was pretty unrewarding for it what it was.