Current Mass shooting at Margaret River

[Dan Baker]

100% agree. Everyone is pointing the finger at the father, but he wasn't the one that just committed a massacre.

Did you read the article?

The ex husband said he would be on the boundary via mobile phone call to the ex wife for days.

The ex wife posted social media posts saying the the ex had stayed even though he had been asked to leave.

The ex wife asked anyone who sees the vehicle to ring the ranger and have the vehicle removed.

 

[Dan Baker]

I wonder how far on the spectrum the 4 kids were? How manageable they were?

Maybe grandfather thought it would just be better if they were all dead.

Dan Baker If the father was such a big contributing factor as you keep harping on about, and he was parked out the front of the property, if you're going to kill your wife, daughter, grandkids and yourself, I'm sure you'd find the time to go and 'take care' of the ex son-in-law.

Psychopaths play the game. Did you read the article? Not read the bit about I will be outside for days?

The grandfather probably hadnt slept. Bad bad bad!

In her Facebook message, Ms Miles posted a string of text messages she received from Mr Cockman the previous evening. Among them, he said: “Can I talk to the kids”; “Or are you too messed up”; “I will be here every night”.

Been asked to leave.

 

[BORK]

Way too much absolving of responsibility of the piece of shit that is the grandfather in this thread and pinning it on the ex. Disgusting.

Even worse is those alluding to the autism diagnosis of the children as a possible contributing factor.

If the ex was the issue for the grandfather could have and would have gone straight for him when outside the property.

If I were to speculate about the strange actions of the ex in this situation it would be toward him being worried about what could happen to the kids on that property.

Has it been confirmed if the ex partner was the biological father of any of the children?

 

[Dan Baker]

Way too much absolving of responsibility of the piece of shit that is the grandfather in this thread and pinning it on the ex. Disgusting.

Even worse is those alluding to the autism diagnosis of the children as a possible contributing factor.

If the ex was the issue for the grandfather could have and would have gone straight for him when outside the property.

If I were to speculate about the strange actions of the ex in this situation it would be toward him being worried about what could happen to the kids on that property.

Has it been confirmed if the ex partner was the biological father of any of the children?

How do you know?

Did you read the article?

Have you ever been stalked by a psychopath?

Psychopaths are the ultimate pluralists. You wouldnt even know, many are aufait in the dark art.

They couldnt find the car. It said that. You cant shoot what you cant see.
You have no idea what your talking about.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Did you read the article?

The ex husband said he would be on the boundary via mobile phone call to the ex wife for days.

The ex wife posted social media posts saying the the ex had stayed even though he had been asked to leave.

The ex wife asked anyone who sees the vehicle to ring the ranger and have the vehicle removed.

So you're actually trying to rationalise the course of action that was taken? I could think of about 100 better options to deal with, what is a pretty common domestic situation.

 

[Dan Baker]

So you're actually trying to rationalise the course of action that was taken? I could think of about 100 better options to deal with what is a pretty common domestic situation.

But you havent read the article.

All these Stallone Ninjas thinking you can run around in the night on the streets with a firearm looking for Red October

The minute that firearm is deemed not being used for its intended purpose, its gone! In police hold.

 

[Dan Baker]

The grandfather went around the twist in classic 4am lost the plot not sleeping behavior wondering if his daughters ex coming on the property.

Read the progressive stage of events.

In the event, Im going to be here for days, please go away, (The night before), nup.

Grandfather loses the plot, by the sounds of it under the duress of an obsessive ex husband.

If a police psychologist had one whiff of mental issues, firearms would be confiscated, especially under the circumstances.

I dont think this is going to be simplistic. Its a going to be complex ongoing family dispute between multiple parties.

 

[Taylor]

Psychopaths play the game. Did you read the article? Not read the bit about I will be outside for days?

The grandfather probably hadnt slept. Bad bad bad!

In her Facebook message, Ms Miles posted a string of text messages she received from Mr Cockman the previous evening. Among them, he said: “Can I talk to the kids”; “Or are you too messed up”; “I will be here every night”.

Been asked to leave.

In another context you have a father who will do anything to see his kids and a mother who is 'too messed up' on something to let him.

This guy wanted to see his children and her father killed them all. Sure showed him!

Terribly sad situation

 

[BORK]

The grandfather is a coward piece of shit. Simple. Stop removing his agency.

 

[Taylor]

The grandfather went around the twist in classic 4am lost the plot not sleeping behavior wondering if his daughters ex coming on the property.

When my father was worried about boys around me, outside our home, he never directed that at me or his family. He always turned the claws towards the enemy.

There is no classic brain snap, oh I'll murder all of my family and kill myself instead of handling the issue directly, much easier to kill my loved ones than someone who I hold no affection for.

Old men are supremely confident in their right to tell you what they think is right, storming off down his driveway to give you a piece of his mind would be appropriate. But you might say he was scared, he obviously had no issue using forearms.

 

[Dan Baker]

When my father was worried about boys around me, outside our home, he never directed that at me or his family. He always turned the claws towards the enemy.

There is no classic brain snap, oh I'll murder all of my family and kill myself instead of handling the issue directly, much easier to kill my loved ones than someone who I hold no affection for.

Old men are supremely confident in their right to tell you what they think is right, storming off down his driveway to give you a piece of his mind would be appropriate. But you might say he was scared, he obviously had no issue using forearms.

Read the article.

Read the bit about family. Then go speak to a psych about it.

His daughter is probably exhausted with four autistic children.

Then the ex tells her he is going to be outside the property for days.

They have asked the ex to leave. Grandfather full of helplessness.

This is not going to be a simplistic case.

 

[The Dice Man]

Im not sure whose conclusion I should jump too here because everyone seems to be making one without any knowledge.

Alas, a bloody tragedy for the children and mother.

 

[Dan Baker]

Im not sure whose conclusion I should jump too here because everyone seems to be making one without any knowledge.

Alas, a bloody tragedy for the children and mother.

Read the bloody article

 

[The Dice Man]

Read the bloody article

No I think I will wait.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The grandfather went around the twist in classic 4am lost the plot not sleeping behavior wondering if his daughters ex coming on the property.

Read the progressive stage of events.

In the event, Im going to be here for days, please go away, (The night before), nup.

Grandfather loses the plot, by the sounds of it under the duress of an obsessive ex husband.

If a police psychologist had one whiff of mental issues, firearms would be confiscated, especially under the circumstances.

I dont think this is going to be simplistic. Its a going to be complex ongoing family dispute between multiple parties.

lol, grandfather loses it under the duress being applied from the ex-husband. Murders everyone bar the ex-husband and then kills himself.

Yep, totally plausible. It would be the very first cause / outcome that I'd dismiss.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Way too much absolving of responsibility of the piece of shit that is the grandfather in this thread and pinning it on the ex. Disgusting.

Even worse is those alluding to the autism diagnosis of the children as a possible contributing factor.

If the ex was the issue for the grandfather could have and would have gone straight for him when outside the property.

If I were to speculate about the strange actions of the ex in this situation it would be toward him being worried about what could happen to the kids on that property.

Has it been confirmed if the ex partner was the biological father of any of the children?

You must live under a rock if you think being a special needs child hasn't ever been a contributing factor into children being murdered.

 

[Taylor]

I wouldn't be surprised for it to come out that those kids all had fetal alcohol syndrome.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The grandfather clearly snapped. In the most psychopathic of ways.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

When my father was worried about boys around me, outside our home, he never directed that at me or his family. He always turned the claws towards the enemy.

There is no classic brain snap, oh I'll murder all of my family and kill myself instead of handling the issue directly, much easier to kill my loved ones than someone who I hold no affection for.

Old men are supremely confident in their right to tell you what they think is right, storming off down his driveway to give you a piece of his mind would be appropriate. But you might say he was scared, he obviously had no issue using forearms.

And he wasn't THAT old! 61 isn't even old enough for the pension. I've seen a lot of men that are still well capable of a blue at that age... And being a farmer you'd think he was the "blokey" type, not the old, frail, grandpa narrative that some are trying to spin.

 

[WeetBixKid]

Read the bloody article

It's possible the ex-hub was just a crazy stalker. But it's also possible that his children were taken away from him, put into an environment he considered unsafe & out of desperation he'd park his car nearby some nights. The truth is probably somewhere in between, but we just don't know. Not sure why you're so keen to lay blame on the husband.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

The grandfather had the family living with him. One autistic child is enough to send one parent around the twist.

The ex husband sat outside in his car on the boundary relentlessy as the social media posts suggest telling the ex wife with 4 autistic children that he (Aaron Cockman) was going to be outside the property for days.

That is relentless psychological pressure.

Thats enough to make anyone snap.

I ponder if this will test the current law?

As DT said, why not shoot the ex? Unless he thought his daughter and 4 autistic grandchildren would be better off dead?

I have to question why the mother kept having kids after having 1 autistic child, then another then another ...

What's with blaming Autism for this?

 

[Taylor]

There is an 18 month wait on the coroner reports in WA at the moment, but I wonder if we will get the toxicology report earlier.

 

[Dan Baker]

Im not sure whose conclusion I should jump too here because everyone seems to be making one without any knowledge.

Alas, a bloody tragedy for the children and mother.

Read the bloody article. Lots a info.

Unless we have all been misled and deceived by media again.

That would be change.

 

[Taylor]

The father's words:

Mr Cockman, who was estranged from Katrina, said he had not spoken to Peter and Cynda “since they cut me off from my kids” but being angry served no purpose. “Anger will destroy you. I’m sad but I’ll get through this.”

 

[patsmith]

The usual idiots using their nonsense folk psychiatry to make judgments based only on one line from a news article. Using this as more titilation for their murder-pr0n obsession. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Can't wait for the protractors and compasses to come out. I wonder how far away from the GPO this was?