Matt Priddis- Our best option for getting a Good draft Pick.

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I will probably get Burnt here but Im just saying what your all thinking.

Matt Priddis IMHO would probably have the highest trade value in our team. So Why dont we use that to our advantage, Trade him.

Advantages for Prospective team.
Durable- Plays nearly every game.
Hard- He never shirks a contest
Ball Magnet- Knows how to find the ball regardless of who is around him.
Pressure- He has had the highest tackle count for our team in the last 3 years.
Age- He is still young and just starting to peak, and is a team player.

disadvantages for Prospective team.
Disposal- His kicking is a real worry, would help if he had good Outside players to feed.
Goal Kicking- Not a Goal kicking midfielder.
Look- Looks like side show BOB and may make team members laugh at his hair do.
Slow- He has NO speed.

Yeh yeh I know he has been 1 of our best players this season, BUT why not trade him while his value is at its peak, We have got what we can and now that we are rebuilding why not get something for him now before he turns spud and is worth nothing.
 

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Priddis' worth to the team will increase as those around him get better. Why waste Swift/Masten/Shuey at the bottom of a pack when they can be spreading.

What Priddis does best, he does well. Clearances. As a pure clearance player, he doesn't need speed. So long as he continues to handball out, he should stay in.
 

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Eagle Ant with the thinking cap on here.

The core players in your premiership challanging side should be 23-29.

Looks like the core development group is 20-22 right now.

This means window opening around 2013 and Priddis will just be passing his peak.

Trade now build better team later. I cannot see any way the Eagles will be a top team in the next couple of years where Priddis will be at his footballing peak.

Needs to be traded for his own good but only if a top team wants him.
 

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Agree. I've seen his best and worst and there isn't much difference. Will never be the centerman in big games against premiership opposition.

TBH though... it's only Woosha's loyalty and stubbornness that sees him get so much playing time. Doubt any coach would bother with someone so limited and force your whole team to build around him.

Someone on here said he's waiting on a knee op which will basically be the end of him. Either way, i'm happy there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
 

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Agree. I've seen his best and worst and there isn't much difference. Will never be the centerman in big games against premiership opposition.

TBH though... it's only Woosha's loyalty and stubbornness that sees him get so much playing time. Doubt any coach would bother with someone so limited and force your whole team to build around him.

Someone on here said he's waiting on a knee op which will basically be the end of him. Either way, i'm happy there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
I have only seen him live a couple of times live this season. From what I have seen Woosher is stubbornly playing him because he is 100% above his team mates in terms of winning the ball and disposing of it to advantage. He is doing this with no help from spreading players at all.

Using the insane logic of this thread we should look to the highest trade value - NN for example would get more than Priddis.

Why would they both be valuable? Because they are very valuable to a football team.

Close this down and back to school, girls.
 

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I wanted to trade Priddis a few years back when he was over valued. He's not over valued now but I would still trade him. To be honest I would take anything for him. And if I couldn't get anything I'd delist him.

I'd be trying to upgrade our first pick to number 3. Failing that I'd be floating his name and giving him to the highest bidder.

For those of you who disagree:

Let me tell you about where the game is right now:

The team with the least turnovers generally wins or at the very least has a huge advantage. There is no point getting the ball 30 times if you turn it over 8 times, kick to 50/50 12 times, handball directly to a guy a who gets wrapped up 5 times, and has 5 effective disposals.

Our future is: Masten, Shuey, Swift, Stevens, Shepard, maybe Ebert

I used to think it was a good idea just to phase Priddis out whilst these guys develop. Now I think we should turf him. Unfortunately he has low trade value because of his disposal. Clubs just don't want to touch players who can't kick and/or have poor decision making.
 

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The game has changed. Decision making and footskills are everything these days. Players who are poor at these are weak links.
Yes but you still have to get your hands on the ball to even have good posession or turn overs, and priddis who is one of the leading clearance players in the comp is one of the best and getting in and dishing it out to those players with good disposal skills. DENTON, priddis would get a game in every other team. He would near be our first pick. In a team with good players around him he would be twice the player he is now, he gets the number one tag every week since Kerrs gone down and still does his job.
Wouldn't want to see priddis leave but I do think he would fetch a good pick, and if that meant a upgrade to grab a H Bennell my arm may be twisted
 

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Yes but you still have to get your hands on the ball to even have good posession or turn overs,
ball magnets are dime a dozen. Players with good foot skills, good decision making, and ability to hold the ball in traffic until an option presents are not. It's a simple case of economics.

and priddis who is one of the leading clearance players in the comp is one of the best and getting in and dishing it out to those players with good disposal skills.
Show me another Priddis in Geelong, St Kilda, Bulldogs, Collingwood. They don't have one.

The nearest would be O'Bree, Jones, Picken, Hayes. O'Bree can run lines, Jones is and Picken tag, Hayes can hold the ball until options come and has good decision making.

There is no use for someone with Priddis' skill set. If clearance and ball magnet is all he's got, it's not good enough.

DENTON, priddis would get a game in every other team.
Delusional.

He would near be our first pick.would be twice the player he is now,
He'd be better but there would be other players with more upside.
 

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Brett Kirk did ok for Sydney in the their glory days..
Comparing a tagger to an offensive mid = fail.
priddis would get a game in every other team.
Of course, i reckon Subi, Swans, Peel would love... oh wait.
one of the best and getting in and dishing it out
Is he really? Even his handballs are half a second to slow. Besides, i'd rather someone that doesn't 'have to' dish it out everytime because he can't hit a target by foot 20m away.
All he does is transfer the pressure to someone else...

The only remotely comparable player right now is Luke Ball. Only Ball is a touch quicker, more agile, more creative, better vision, more respected....

Unfortunately against top opposition, like Geelong and St Kilda, Luke Ball was blown away by his counterparts Hayes and Selwood... because they can kick, evade players, provide run through the middle, take a mark, etc.
 

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IMO Pridis and Mitch Brown our our highest value trade options that we could afford to let go.

Brown being a big KP CHF / CHB would hold more value and is younger. GC17 would definately be interested as would several Melbourne clubs.

Talk to Richmond Brown + our third round pick for their first rounder.:thumbsu:
 

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Denton has some of the strangest ideas ive seen out of a newcomer to the forums. How old are you may I ask because I seem to think that most of the time, your judgements are illformed and illogical?

PS. Not a personal stab, just an observation.
 

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People who bag Priddis are just on the bandwagon and need to make their own judgement. Hes improved a hell of a lot this year and has been one of our best players.
 

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Some genuinely funny stuff in this thread. As usual on this topic.

Priddis is an offensive mid as he can't tag. He has no flexibility (he can only play in the middle). As such, he needs to be one of our 2 offensive mids. We currently have the worst offensive mids in the AFL and Priddis is our featured player and our "best".

He lacks speed. In a league where speed is paramount. He lacks kicking skills in a league where footskills are arguably the absolute key. He can get the ball from stationary contests but, unlike the great, slow, inside mids he has no vision - even his handballs are pointless 2m backwards types. He can't "see" where a player will be that split second ahead of time and lead him there with a 5m game breaking handball. It's just not in him. He is a "get ball, kick ball, get ball" plodder. His tackling is over rated because of our game style. We flood the midfield, creating 30 players at stoppages and lots of "stacks on " style tackles. Priddis can turtle tackle at zero pace with the best of them. Once in any sort of pace, he has traffic cone style tackling skills. They just run away and around him in space.

Everything I have just stated is objective fact.

We can then debate whether his in and under stuff over rides his downsides. I mean he is (statistically) better inside than Hodge, a better tackler than Rioli, he gets the ball more than Judd. He handballs more than Ablett. ****, he must be good.

We are the worst midfield in the league, including if merely restricted to the starting 3. He is the main guy. He will be 26 when next season starts. The comparisons with some on here are funny. The Luke Ball comparison is an interesting one - Ball has more creativity and ability than Priddis, impacts games more, but is slow. Interestingly, being slow was key for the Saints who saw a GF get away from them in the 4th quarter last year because guys like Byrnes (in particular) and Varcoe kept running away from the Saints plodding mids. They drafted Peake & the rapist (alledged) specifically to get faster. And Priddis is worse in every respect than Ball.

If we put Priddus up for trade, we wouldn't get better than a third rounder and that would be a bonus. He is our Shane Tuck, this groups slight upgrade on Richard Taylor.

Good bloke though.

I think it's funny that we get general agreement that our midfield is shit but then we get an argument that Priddis' isn't. Let's compare with a good midfield. Geelong either start Gablett (offensive), Selwood (offensive in and under) and Ling (defensive) as their mids or they swap for Bartel. Our defensive mid is a Selwood (not too bad in that role, a poorish mans Ling but entirely adequate). Our offensive mids are currently Priddis and Ebert. At 25 Priddis is at his peak. Which of Gablett, Bartel, J SElwood is Priddis?

You can do the same thing with the starting mids of basically every starting team in the AFL. He is the sort of player that some of us over rate because he works hard, doesn't complain, gives his all and is a battler but he is simply not good enough as a starting mid at AFL level.

THE man, in the worst midfield in the comp, lacking pace and skill in a pace & skill based competition. A guy whose strengths are exaggerated by a block it up, under 10's scrum style midfield approach.

He remains a huge part of the problem. As some have been pointing out consistently for 2+ years. How much has our midfield improved in that time?
 
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Everything I have just stated is objective fact.
No it's not - it's a subjective analysis

As is your Luke Ball analysis - where is the objective fact he is a more creative and all round better than Priddis when he averages less disposals, less goal assists, less tackles, concedes more free kicks.

He has equally average disposal, can't kick over a jam tin, and is supported in a quality midfield - but does manage to rack up more uncontested marks.

More creative though...
 

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People who bag Priddis are just on the bandwagon and need to make their own judgement. Hes improved a hell of a lot this year and has been one of our best players.
I'm not bagging him at all and agree that he has improved this year, his decision making and field kicking have improved a fair bit. People just have memories of him consistantl, kicking blind and turning the ball over which he did up to about half way through last year, then he started handballing more than kicking.

The reason I think he's a good trade option is that he's 25 and we have others who need time in the middle such as Stevens, Shuey and Masten. Pridis does lack pace which is what we need and on a big ground like Subiaco is a weakness.

IMO he holds good trade value for a team with young outside mids who needs an inside ball magnet ................as long as he doesn't get a tag.
 

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Denton has some of the strangest ideas ive seen out of a newcomer to the forums. How old are you may I ask because I seem to think that most of the time, your judgements are illformed and illogical?

PS. Not a personal stab, just an observation.
Not wanting to get into an arguement but I've been enjoying some of Denton's work recently.

As for Priddis well what you see is what you get.
A goer who can get the footy.
Not great vision by hand or foot.
Certainly not in the same league as Kirk who just oozes team team team.
 

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No it's not - it's a subjective analysis

As is your Luke Ball analysis - where is the objective fact he is a more creative and all round better than Priddis when he averages less disposals, less goal assists, less tackles, concedes more free kicks.

He has equally average disposal, can't kick over a jam tin, and is supported in a quality midfield - but does manage to rack up more uncontested marks.

More creative though...
If I see a flag blowing in the breeze every single day, can I assume objectively that there is a breeze or is that merely subjective?

Luke Ball, as described in a later post, can find space in traffic and can create by waiting for, then choosing the right option. If he still had pace and wasn't cruel led by chronic groins he would be elite...


The fact that you refuse to see that and refuse to debate any of the other observed facts re Priddus simply confirms a view that you are largely clueless. Which is no great revelation but still ...

Feel free to point out the errors in my "objective facts" re Priddis. Feel free to point out where they would not be factors when assessing his trade worth. In fact feel free to raise anything at all.

Here we go:

He lacks speed. In a league where speed is paramount. He lacks kicking skills in a league where footskills are arguably the absolute key. He can get the ball from stationary contests but, unlike the great, slow, inside mids he has no vision - even his handballs are pointless 2m backwards types. He can't "see" where a player will be that split second ahead of time and lead him there with a 5m game breaking handball. It's just not in him. He is a "get ball, kick ball, get ball" plodder. His tackling is over rated because of our game style. We flood the midfield, creating 30 players at stoppages and lots of "stacks on " style tackles. Priddis can turtle tackle at zero pace with the best of them. Once in any sort of pace, he has traffic cone style tackling skills. They just run away and around him in space.


Have a crack....
 
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