Matthew Guy. Can a mediocre leader with a 3rd rate team win government?

[Hojuman]

Georgie Girl!!!

 

[kalex6251]

lurch has now thrown his 2 cents worth in the ring .... supporting the spivs morning attack

 

[winty]

The idiots don't know who the leader of the party is going by this...

 

[fs88]

Had a good day at the office PR wise imho riding the essendon stuff

No.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Guy:

"Thorborn should not have been sacked because some thought his religious beliefs were outrageous"

Also Guy

"We sacked Bernie Finn because his religious beliefs were outrageous"

 

[The Punter]

Finn was sacked for the highly intemperate way he went about expressing his beliefs.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Guy is ScoMo lite, and that's saying something

Like why would he even do this?

Dutton latest to join war of words in Essendon CEO saga

Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton painted the controversy over Andrew Thorburn’s resignation as a form of religious persecution.

www.theage.com.au

If there is one thing Australians demonstrably do not like, it is weird religious style extremism meshing with politics.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Finn was sacked for the highly intemperate way he went about expressing his beliefs.

Yeah, the Finn move was a political decision.

He had worn out his welcome, as opposed to his views being at odds with many in the party.

 

[Donakebab]

Finn was sacked for the highly intemperate way he went about expressing his beliefs.

So no problem being a hate filled bigot, just keep it quiet in an election year.

Cool and normal.

 

[The Punter]

So no problem being a hate filled bigot, just keep it quiet in an election year.

Cool and normal.

I think many in the parliamentary party wanted Bernie to keep quiet permanently, but the point was the issue was the way he was expressing himself rather than his views per se.

 

[Saint]

Like why would he even do this?

Dutton latest to join war of words in Essendon CEO saga

Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton painted the controversy over Andrew Thorburn’s resignation as a form of religious persecution.

www.theage.com.au

If there is one thing Australians demonstrably do not like, it is weird religious style extremism meshing with politics.

The same Peter Dutton who paints himself as a freedom-of-speech campaigner while suing a person for a tweet? That Peter Dutton? Perhaps they're just trying to win the religious vote by being outrageously hypocritical.

 

[kalex6251]

the spivs not sounding overly confident about his electoral chances here

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

the spivs not sounding overly confident about his electoral chances here

It might be a closed it of track but it send the wrong idea

 

[FredLeDeux]

It might be a closed it of track but it send the wrong idea

It sure does.
I think

 

[kalex6251]

soooooo ..... worksafe are investigating vic lib HQ over a website targeting staff and volunteers .... suspicions within the ranks that the website is being run by those on the hard right of the party to silence moderates

 

[FredLeDeux]

soooooo ..... worksafe are investigating vic lib HQ over a website targeting staff and volunteers .... suspicions within the ranks that the website is being run by those on the hard right of the party to silence moderates

They're stuffed now that the old psychosocial inspectors are in

 

[The Punter]

I've been named on that website and even I think bringing WorkSafe in is ridiculous.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I've been named on that website and even I think bringing WorkSafe in is ridiculous.

WorkSafe don't need to be "bought in" they can investigate of their own accord

 

[The Punter]

WorkSafe don't need to be "bought in" they can investigate of their own accord

I can't recall too many instances of a statutory authority deciding the launch an investigation on the basis of anonymous allegations made not directly to that statutory authority. Seems like they are looking for work to do, and there should be plenty just coming out of the aged care facilities at the heart of the 2nd wave.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I can't recall too many instances of a statutory authority deciding the launch an investigation on the basis of anonymous allegations made not directly to that statutory authority. Seems like they are looking for work to do, and there should be plenty just coming out of the aged care facilities at the heart of the 2nd wave.

Utter Bullshit, almost 50% of Investigations by WorkSafe are WorkSafe initiated

 

[The Punter]

Utter Bullshit, almost 50% of Investigations by WorkSafe are WorkSafe initiated

Based on an unattributed, anonymous internet blog?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Based on an unattributed, anonymous internet blog?

If that makes you feel happy about being a total doofus, then you stick to it

 

[The Punter]

If that makes you feel happy about being a total doofus, then you stick to it

So we have Victorian Government Statutory Authorities, scouring the web for unfounded allegations made by people of unknown identity, and decide investigating these things (which, for all we know, may be authored by people overseas and have no basis in fact) is a worthwhile use of taxpayers' money?

If the allegation had been made anonymously but directly to WorkSafe, in a phone call or an email or even a tweet, then I could understand them taking it seriously.

If the allegation was made in a reputable media outlet with attribution, then I could also understand initiating an investigation.

But this is just made-up rubbish. Meanwhile in a workplace somewhere else, some 16 year old kid is probably being asked to do something dangerous while our key regulator is reading gossip.

Thanks for addressing my question though. You add so much to this thread you should be a mod.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

So we have Victorian Government Statutory Authorities, scouring the web for unfounded allegations made by people of unknown identity, and decide investigating these things (which, for all we know, may be authored by people overseas and have no basis in fact) is a worthwhile use of taxpayers' money?

If the allegation had been made anonymously but directly to WorkSafe, in a phone call or an email or even a tweet, then I could understand them taking it seriously.

If the allegation was made in a reputable media outlet with attribution, then I could also understand initiating an investigation.

But this is just made-up rubbish. Meanwhile in a workplace somewhere else, some 16 year old kid is probably being asked to do something dangerous while our key regulator is reading gossip.

Thanks for addressing my question though. You add so much to this thread you should be a mod.

I'll give you two hints, but I suspect even they will leave you floundering, because I find you generally an ignorant person:

1. Incident Notification Regulations
2. WorkCover Claims Data with key words flagged

 

[The Punter]

I'll give you two hints, but I suspect even they will leave you floundering, because I find you generally an ignorant person:

1. Incident Notification Regulations
2. WorkCover Claims Data with key words flagged

That's OK Jack, seems like you find almost everyone to be an ignorant person, so there's really no light and shade to that.

My mistake here is I missed the part where party members had directly contacted Work Safe and Victoria Police. Which means my commentary was based on a false assumption.

Now, don't go making commentary based on false assumptions, you hear?