Matty 'cheat' Lloyd

[Dippers_Mullet]

He will only be recognised as a true great by his own supporters, others can actually see right through him. He has no respect from the average supporter in the street, unlike other great full forwards, Lockett, Ablett and Dunstall, opposition supporters could see how good these guys were.

SPOT ON.

Lloyd pales in comparison with the true great full forwards of the game.

 

[drewie_rama]

Richo would be ahead if he got the freebies Lloyd gets.

or if he could kick straight
either way

 

[morgoth]

Going back the the actual topic of conversation.

It was a bizzare action, and did result in a free to his team. He is looking more and more desperate as the weeks go by and his output remains sub par.

FWIW I think he will not be rated by a lot of supporters from other teams. He is just a squib who plays for frees and his own ego. Good luck to him but I will reserve my repsect for the true great full forwards rather than a prima dona.

 

[Longy413]

SPOT ON.

Lloyd pales in comparison with the true great full forwards of the game.

The only ones comparing him to them, is you guys.

I've never once heard and Essendon supporter say he compares with them.

 

[ant555]

Going back the the actual topic of conversation.

It was a bizzare action, and did result in a free to his team. He is looking more and more desperate as the weeks go by and his output remains sub par.

FWIW I think he will not be rated by a lot of supporters from other teams. He is just a squib who plays for frees and his own ego. Good luck to him but I will reserve my repsect for the true great full forwards rather than a prima dona.

And im sure that Lloyd will be really distraught and distressed that the average punter doesnt rate him and never will
Im sure he doesnt really care if the experts dont rate him in the best full forwards either. For what its worth i dont rate him in the top 6 or 7 either but that doesnt change the fact he is a great player. Poor players dont kick over 700 goals.He has had 183 free kicks in his career (from 218 games)and if you presume all are within range of goal and his conversion rate is 69% then he has kicked 126 goals out of 788 from frees . This leaves 662 goals kicked on his own abilitiy.I think most clubs would be happy with a forward who can kick 600 goals over a ten year career.

 

[CattyBossDog]

Lloyd will be really distraught and distressed that the average punter doesnt rate him and never will

QFT.

 

[M29]

Ant, this is bigfooty, you leave logic, reasoning and decency behind when you log in.

 

[The Flash]

Lloyd will never be known as a great FF, for the simple fact that hes never kicked 100 goals in a home and away season. Personally I rate Tony Modra as being a better FF than Lloyd by a fair margin, even though Lloyd has more career goals than Mods.

 

[drewie_rama]

Lloyd will never be known as a great FF, for the simple fact that hes never kicked 100 goals in a home and away season. Personally I rate Tony Modra as being a better FF than Lloyd by a fair margin, even though Lloyd has more career goals than Mods.

oh yeah thats the best way of rating a full forward these days
with the amount of flooding and numbers dropping back that goes on its any wonder a player kicks 80 goals in a year

 

[go team]

face it guys, he'd struggle to get a game at Collingwood or Hawthorn. Don't even mention the Dees.

 

[diamond-don]

Lloyd will never be known as a great FF, for the simple fact that hes never kicked 100 goals in a home and away season. Personally I rate Tony Modra as being a better FF than Lloyd by a fair margin, even though Lloyd has more career goals than Mods.

lloyd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neitz

 

[Blues_Man]

somebody sure has all these bummer boys in a hissy fit

 

[The Flash]

lloyd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neitz

Hang on, dont attack me because I have an opinion.
Suggesting that flooding is the reason he hasnt kicked 100 in a year is plain stupidity.
Are you seriously saying that Lloyd is better than Modra?

 

[Mattlowry]

lloyd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neitz

See that annoys me. You are an essendon supporter so i wont go as harsh on you, but did he ever say Neitz was better? No he didn't. Neitz has nothing to do with this argument.


The game has changed, if it were still played like it was when Lloyd first started he would probably be closer to 850-900 by now.


Poor players dont kick 800+ goals.

 

[drewie_rama]

Hang on, dont attack me because I have an opinion.
Suggesting that flooding is the reason he hasnt kicked 100 in a year is plain stupidity.
Are you seriously saying that Lloyd is better than Modra?

yes
look at the facts, forwards getting close to a 100 goals in a year are long gone, aint plain stupid at all
and im seriously telling you lloyd is better than modra

 

[The Flash]

lloyd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neitz

As a captain-
Neitz>>>>>>>>Lloyd.

 

[drewie_rama]

As a captain-
Neitz>>>>>>>>Lloyd.

lol, you keep telling yaself that if it helps you sleep at night

 

[Mattlowry]

As a captain-
Neitz>>>>>>>>Lloyd.

Is that why the Demons have been such a successful team over his tenure?

 

[The Flash]

yes
look at the facts, forwards getting close to a 100 goals in a year are long gone, aint plain stupid at all
and im seriously telling you lloyd is better than modra

Yes these days they are. Going back 5-6 years flooding was no where near what it is today. Its only recent times that teams do this.
That is plain STUPID.

 

[diamond-don]

Hang on, dont attack me because I have an opinion.
Suggesting that flooding is the reason he hasnt kicked 100 in a year is plain stupidity.
Are you seriously saying that Lloyd is better than Modra?

your opinion suck ass mate, you said that lloyd will never been known as a great full forward, you sir are a idiot, and at there best modra shits all over lloyd, he also shits all over lockett at his best also, but your just clutching at straws, lloyd has kicked a shit load of goals and will go down as one of the great FF ever if you like it or not

 

[The Flash]

Is that why the Demons have been such a successful team over his tenure?

I have essendon mates who also think that Lloyd should never have been given the captaincy. As a footballer he is very good, as a captain he is rather average.
Neitz is prepared to put his body on the line at every occasion, break the packs open(not as much any more as his old body isnt upto it as much, but did on a couple of occasions today), and has the ability to fire hes team mates up.
I just dont see that from Lloyd.

 

[the dunnstown pope]

Our local school was donated a framed Matty Lloyd jumper and photo for a fund raising night. The auctioneers popped it up on the stage so people could inspect it throughout the night. After it had been there an hour or two, all of a sudden the frame lurched forward without anybody touching it. Everyone in the hall laughed when some wag yelled out that even a framed jumper and photo of Matty Lloyd was diving for a free kick. Also, it didn't raise much money, obviously not enough bomber supporters there.

 

[The Flash]

your opinion suck ass mate, you said that lloyd will never been known as a great full forward, you sir are a idiot, and at there best modra shits all over lloyd, he also shits all over lockett at his best also, but your just clutching at straws, lloyd has kicked a shit load of goals and will go down as one of the great FF ever if you like it or not

So now your saying that Lloyd is better than Lockett. and you call me an idiot? Get off the drugs ****head.

 

[Darealrath]

I have essendon mates who also think that Lloyd should never have been given the captaincy. As a footballer he is very good, as a captain he is rather average.
Neitz is prepared to put his body on the line at every occasion, break the packs open(not as much any more as his old body isnt upto it as much, but did on a couple of occasions today), and has the ability to fire hes team mates up.
I just dont see that from Lloyd.

Rubbish. He's on field leadership has been very good and off field I've only heard excellent things. The team has certainly improved.

He's a champion FF. He also contributes more than most other traditional FFs. Gets a lot of the footy and is willing to sacrifice his game to help the team exploit a matchup.

 

[drewie_rama]

Yes these days they are. Going back 5-6 years flooding was no where near what it is today. Its only recent times that teams do this.
That is plain STUPID.

yes you are correct, and lloyd kicked a hundred in both 2000, and 2001, albeit he kicked his 100th in the first final in 2000 and 2001. Lloyd has also been playing with lucas his whole career, who has kicked a fair share of goals himself, around 400 in fact. I cant recall modra playing with any other "gun" forwards who took the ball away from him. Modra kicked a hundred in 93 and 97, both very successful seasons for adelaide in a forward line which he dominated. Lloyd did it in 2000,2001, as well as kicking 96 in what was an average year in 2004