Mavs,Suns,Celtics,Rockets have 2 more chances to get that elusive title

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Because from 2010 its going to be Blazer domination

They have the best group of talent put together in a long time and they are winning now.If they manage to win a play-off series this year it will propel them forward even quicker.

They have the perfect blend of youth at all the right spots inside and out.Roy,Aldridge,Webster then they have guys coming into their prime years soon like Outlaw,Jones,Frye and Jack.Przybilla is a decent big man

they can trade Miles who is due back soon for an experienced PG(possiibly Miller)and when they get rid of Lafrentz contract they will be able to improve again.You cant even mention Oden but if he can come in and play some games consistently their defence improves 10-fold.

Throw in a good coach and a mega rich owner and its a tough combination to beat

They only team that looks like it could match them in the future could be Orlando but lewis's contract will hurt them,Utah or maybe N.O but none of those teams have quite the spread of talent bar maybe utah.Lakers are improving quickly but kobe might have slowed in 2 years

Its downright scary thinking about it.
 

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Meh, I think you're overrating their talent.

Roy is an absolute stud, Aldridge is a nice talent...but other than those two they have a bunch of role players who are just very high on confidence atm. If Oden comes back 100%, then we can talk about their talent, but right now I think it's mostly momentum.

I reckon NO is the best bet - they're set for the next 5-10 years with Paul/West/Chandler.
Utah is in ok shape, but they need a real C. The Okur/Boozer frontline is sooo weak defensively.
Lakers should be right up there as well - Kobe should still be a great player in 2 years time, and Bynum will be a beast if he continues his development. Obviously they need Phil to stick around though.

Don't like Orlando at all - they still don't have a competent PG, and have locked themselves into horrible deals with Lewis/Nelson. But obviously they'll consistently be in the playoffs with Dwight.

The East is downright depressing - not only do they suck right now, the most talented young teams are all in the West as well.
 

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Hmm one or two more pieces, and I think the Atlanta Hawks could be fairly decent in the East in the future ...

Also getting rid of Zach Randolph in hindsight was a masterstroke.
Can't wait to see how they go with Greg Oden in that side :)
 

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I have to agree with jerry springer here, in a couple of years time, Blazers will be a dominant force, all things being equal.

If Oden fulfills his potential then we are talking. Roy is a stud, Aldridge and Oden would form a monster duo in the paint. Oden improves the interior defence and rebounding. Webster is more of a role playing long range shooter thats here nor there. I like Rodriguez and Jack is a solid PG to have on a roster. Plus they have some youngsters overseas learning thier craft.

What Blazers have done in the last 2-3 years has been remarkable. They assembled a lot of good young talent in a short period of time and have a great coach there to teach and lead them. Plus a super rich owner who is not afraid to open up his wallet. They also have multiple picks in this years draft.

Oden, Aldridge and Frye is probably as good a 3 man big roation as you would ever hope to assemble. The great thing about Frye here is that he can spell both Oden and Aldridge as he can play both PF and C.

I wish my Kings were in same situation as Blazers. They have the foundations for a MAJOR dynasty here. If Oden reaches his potential and recovers from the knee surgery, the other youngster continue to develop as expected, a couple of solid FA signings to fill the roles, a couple of trades to fill the needs and the Blazers are set for a good number of years.
 

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New Orleans really just need a couple of bench players and they're a genuine threat every year for the next 6 seasons and maybe more.

Not sold on Portland.
New Orleans also have Pedja's massive contract and no bench. Paul is due for an extension soon and that won't leave much money to throw around at players to fill their holes.

Who knows what Pedja will be like in 3-4 years time when his contract becomes monsterous. He is already showing signs of wear and tear.
 

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Oden, Aldridge and Frye is probably as good a 3 man big roation as you would ever hope to assemble. The great thing about Frye here is that he can spell both Oden and Aldridge as he can play both PF and C.
I have to disagree here.

Aldridge is a quality offensive player, but isn't a franchise guy.

Oden had micro-fracture surgery without playing an NBA game. Who knows how he'll come back, and exactly how injury prone he'll be through-out his career.

Completely disagree on Frye. I think there's a good chance he's out of the NBA in 3 years. At best, he might be able to be the 4th/5th big. But I don't like him at all.

New Orleans also have Pedja's massive contract and no bench. Paul is due for an extension soon and that won't leave much money to throw around at players to fill their holes.

Who knows what Pedja will be like in 3-4 years time when his contract becomes monsterous. He is already showing signs of wear and tear.
Pedja's got a large contract, but his replacement (if needed) won't need to. The Spurs have shown that you don't need to pay 10M/year for guys to camp out on the perimeter.

If NO can get some Brent Barry types on their bench (which won't cost them much at all), they're a legit threat. Right now they just have Pargo and B.Jackson, who are far too similar and inconsistent.

If you break it down, Paul>Roy and West>Aldridge. I doubt anyone would disagree there. And who knows about Chandler/Oden...but Chandler's no scrub, and plays a similar role to what Oden will in Portland.

The problem for NO is that Scott refuses to let young players play through mistakes. So he plays a guy like Ryan Bowen rather than letting Hilton Armstrong get better. Same goes for giving minutes to Julian Wright. The bench is potentially there. He just needs to trust it.
 

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although i love pierce cant stand garnett i mean anyone see his posturing, grabbing his jersey and pointing to it at one home game? wolves fans would be spewing.
 

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Blazers definately shouldn't let Miles back on the court. Trade away but who would take him?? maybe the knicks....
hahaha lol, yeah theyd take him on!

is this the worst ever first round (2000)?

Kenyon MartinStromile SwiftDarius MilesMarcus FizerMike MillerDerMarr JohnsonChris MihmJamal CrawfordJoel PrzybillaKeyon DoolingJérôme MoïsoEtan ThomasCourtney AlexanderMateen CleavesJason CollierHidayet T*rkoğluDesmond MasonQuentin RichardsonJamaal MagloireSpeedy ClaxtonMorris PetersonDonnell HarveyDeShawn StevensonDalibor BagarićJake TsakalidisMamadou N'DiayePrimož BrezecErick BarkleyMark Madsen
 

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Not only is there not much talent there, it seems that year produced several head-cases as well. What a terrible draft.
 

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that is a shocker of a draft.

i reckon the blazers will certainly be one of the best teams from 2010 onwards but im not sure about a domination. Who knows what Oden will be like when he gets back and plays his first NBA games. if he is good and they dont make dumb trades or singings then dont be suprised if they win a couple of titles from 2010-2015/16
 
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New Orleans also have Pedja's massive contract and no bench. Paul is due for an extension soon and that won't leave much money to throw around at players to fill their holes.

Who knows what Pedja will be like in 3-4 years time when his contract becomes monsterous. He is already showing signs of wear and tear.
Peja's role isn't hard to replace though, he isn't a key part of the team.

And Chris Paul is a better player than anyone in a Blazer's uniform. Big names win playoff games, and unless Oden reaches his potential, the Blazer's don't really have an out and out superstar.

And by the look of things, Oden is being groomed for a Chandler-esque role anyway.
 

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the Blazer's don't really have an out and out superstar.
I agree with you on most other things, but Roy is a superstar in the making. The only question mark with him is whether he can stay healthy.

IMO he's the second-best young PG in the league right now...and that's saying something given how highly I rate Deron.
 

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If they want a cheap outside shooter to replace/go with Peja they'll be probably able to get Kareem Rush next season as I doubt we'll be able to re-sign him. Shown some damn good form lately and Obie has had us go to small ball so he can start. Clutch too.
 

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Yikes!

Who'd go #1 if that was held in hindsight?

Miller? Hedo? Jamal Crawford?!
Well, Michael Redd went 43rd overall that year, and he'd be no.1 comfortably I'd think.

If we're talking about the first round only, then Miller or K-mart (if he can return to pre-injuries form)
 

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Well, Michael Redd went 43rd overall that year, and he'd be no.1 comfortably I'd think.

If we're talking about the first round only, then Miller or K-mart (if he can return to pre-injuries form)
Ah yes well Redd would be. I thought of K-Mart but lets face it his time at the top was short lived and he hasn't really looked like getting back up to the same level again.
 

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Best teams in the future, because of the spread in talent, will be the Blazers, and New Orleans. You guys have already talked about them.

But two other teams will be Orlando and the Cavs. The Cavs already made it to the finals thanks to LeBron, and he is the sole reason they will always be dangerous, assuming he stays, of course. What he can do for a team surpasses what anyone else can do for their team.

Look at their past dozen or so games with James, and then their games without James and whilst he recovered. If the Cavs didn't have so many bad contracts, they would be genuine contenders simply because of LeBron's superstar ability. And there's no reason for him to stop in the next few years either.

The other one is Orlando with the other super-young superstar in Dwight Howard, though Lewis's contract is really bad, already.

Seeing as they earn so much in sponsorship already, I reckon one of them should just take the minimum and join forces and wow... .. . :p :eek: :eek:
 

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Am I the only one around here who also thinks the Hawks have a fairly decent future, if they can stick together ???
you would like to think so,but they have sucked so badly for a very long period its hard to see them as guenuine threat.

They do have some nice pieces though
 

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i think the hawks need a superstar. they have nice pieces as CP said but have enough that a trade of a few wouldnt hurt too much. need a PG badly.
 

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i think the hawks need a superstar. they have nice pieces as CP said but have enough that a trade of a few wouldnt hurt too much. need a PG badly.
Their other problem is they have a lot of your typical "dumb athletes". Other than Horford, most of their players have low basketball IQ, it seems to me.
 

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I agree with you on most other things, but Roy is a superstar in the making. The only question mark with him is whether he can stay healthy.

IMO he's the second-best young PG in the league right now...and that's saying something given how highly I rate Deron.

Chris Paul destroys deron. no discusion there.
 
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