Max King

[MickG88]

Gold Coast wouldn’t pay his price, I would want at least 2 first rounds and a player like Noah Anderson.

With the spotlight going to be firmly on him from here on in in regards to his kicking at goal meaning he’ll be under immense pressure every time he has a simple shot, it might be worth him seeking a trade to the GC to play with his brother and getting out of the AFL fishbowl in Melbourne.

Much better chance at some genuine team success too instead of the messiah complex that’s been happening to him from saints supporters since being drafted.

 

[MickG88]

Alright mate everyone else is wrong and you’re right.

King is f***en s**t.

Can't handle a conversation? The attitude you are calling me out for is exactly what you have just done.

 

[PhatBoy]

Can't handle a conversation? The attitude you are calling me out for is exactly what you have just done.

No mate, I can’t handle the idiocy of people who’s entire posting method is to blame conspiracies and biases and generally tug themselves raw about issues that don’t actually exist.

King is getting a directly proportionate level of scrutiny to what he deserves.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Sorry, did you play in the AFL. You undersand the pressure of having to performance each and every week.

I think you missed my point.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I think you missed my point.

He has to do that in order to suit his pathetic and embarassing agenda(s).

 

[MickG88]

I think you missed my point.

Not at all, you were trying to say that because you can do it then why can't Max King.

 

[MickG88]

No mate, I can’t handle the idiocy of people who’s entire posting method is to blame conspiracies and biases and generally tug themselves raw about issues that don’t actually exist.

King is getting a directly proportionate level of scrutiny to what he deserves.

I have stated what I believe and you basically threw a hissy fit and now am trying to make it look like I have the issues when I have clearly rebutted you and you chose not to respond to mu points or maybe you just can't.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Not at all, you were trying to say that because you can do it then why can't Max King.

Yes, you missed my point.

Although I admit I brisitle a bit when people talk about Hudson and Lockett, and don't mention Lavender Bushranger - it's not about me.

My point is that King's goal kicking technique is badly flawed.

The more flawed a technique, the more susceptible it is to crumbling when the pressure is on.

My concern for King is that he's either getting bad coaching in regards to his kicking, or even worse, his coaches don't actually think there's a problem.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Yes, you missed my point.

Although I admit I brisitle a bit when people talk about Hudson and Lockett, and don't mention Lavender Bushranger - it's not about me.

My point is that King's goal kicking technique is badly flawed.

The more flawed a technique, the more susceptible it is to crumbling when the pressure is on.

My concern for King is that he's either getting bad coaching in regards to his kicking, or even worse, his coaches don't actually think there's a problem.

I think more likely he is just not applying his set shot routine when under pressure on match day. The guy can kick fine he just needs to get his routine repeating reliably. Much like a golf shot or bowling in cricket. He is often not following through properly, leaning back etc. Like a bowler falling away in his action and pushing it onto the batsman’s pads making his captain pull his hair out. The coaches would be studying his kicking action when it is failing and it would not be difficult to see what the issues are. And they would be telling him what to do and how to correct it, and he would be drilling the correct method. You would be shocked if that wasn’t happening.

It does surprise me many professional footballers haven’t got a set shot routine completely honed even before they play their first senior match. As I am sure you know if you have done it, it really isn’t that hard.

 

[netslave]

He has noted goal kickers offering assistance but the club is refusing, he is a game changer and they should be giving him all the help he needs to reach his potential. We'd love to have a chance to fix him up at the Dees.

 

[Dazb86]

King 100% only gets scrutinized because he plays for the Saints

 

[ChristianBoy]

Easier to teach a player to kick than to get the ball.

King is elite in the air and at 22 will sort out his goal kicking.

 

[RAPPA]

Unless they're trying to protect the reputation of Roughead or others who are working with King on his goalkicking, it seems bizarre that they are refusing external help. Part of the responsibility is on King, and the other part is on the Club if they are confining the type / level of available assistance.

 

[conrad_437]

I wish Max got the same amount of being "ripped to shreds" as JUH.


Because the Dogs fans started it and we all know that majority of media guys don't have an original thought of their own. Trawling twitter and Bigfooty so they can regurgitate someone else's point of view.

No they didn’t mate. Stop extrapolating facts you aren’t aware of. Articles as early as 2019 were claiming the Franklin comparison, much before 90% of Dogs fans knew of him. And after we started getting glimpses of him in u18s, the common consensus was that he realistically doesn’t play like him at all.

Get a grip

 

[Deadly Darcy]

I thought the Saints were a deadset certainly to get his brother down from GC? Send Ben forward, move Max back. Perfect set up.

 

[anchor man]

While you have tossers like David King, who spends all his spare time looking for things to criticise players about , there will always be these situations.
I am sure King David never ever made a mistake during his career.

 

[projectv]

It's pretty clear where he needs to improve. I expect he's hurting after that performance and I hope he's able to turn it around during the off season.

Tim Membrey

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Tim Membrey

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

went through an absolutely shocking period of goal kicking back in 2018, it was very similar to King this year. He was able to turn it around and is now one of our most accurate kicks at goal (which is not saying much, to be fair). So I am confident Max can come back better next year.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

It's pretty clear where he needs to improve. I expect he's hurting after that performance and I hope he's able to turn it around during the off season.

Tim Membrey went through an absolutely shocking period of goal kicking back in 2018, it was very similar to King this year. He was able to turn it around and is now one of our most accurate kicks at goal (which is not saying much, to be fair). So I am confident Max can come back better next year.

Membrey shat the bed again on Friday night too.

 

[projectv]

Membrey shat the bed again on Friday night too.

3.2 is a lot better than 0.5

Missed an easy one at the death but otherwise had a solid game.

Gets around the ground much more easily than Max does.

Don't think saying he shat the bed is accurate.

 

[Astro35]

He should move to the Gold Coast

 

[kozi]

Puzzling how one of the most accurate kicks for goal of all time in Matthew Lloyd has been crying out to help him for FREE and they're still actively disallowing it. King actually wanted to go see him last year for just a kick at the park and they said no.

Considering it's been 4 years and still nobody at the club has been able to fix him leaning back and not getting enough momentum through his action, it's got to be one of the more baffling cases of egos gone wrong to continue actively blocking him seeing a specialist from outside the club.

Is Lloyd going to kidnap him? What exactly do they have to lose here?

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Puzzling how one of the most accurate kicks for goal of all time in Matthew Lloyd has been crying out to help him for FREE and they're still actively disallowing it. King actually wanted to go see him last year for just a kick at the park and they said no.

Considering it's been 4 years and still nobody at the club has been able to fix him leaning back and not getting enough momentum through his action, it's got to be one of the more baffling cases of egos gone wrong to continue actively blocking him seeing a specialist from outside the club.

Is Lloyd going to kidnap him? What exactly do they have to lose here?

I'm not sure the Media's use of the words 'ego' and 'arrogant' are accurate.

Isn't it just a case of the club already having people in place actively working with King on this? And if so, supporting these people to do the job?
And as Cam Mooney pointed out, the worst thing that can happen is to have multiple voices in his ear.

I think if Ratten was being genuine in saying there is no issue (which he almost certainly wasn't), then he's a fool. Not arrogant, but just wrong.

 

[kozi]

I'm not sure the Media's use of the words 'ego' and 'arrogant' are accurate.

Isn't it just a case of the club already having people in place actively working with King on this? And if so, supporting these people to do the job?
And as Cam Mooney pointed out, the worst thing that can happen is to have multiple voices in his ear.

I think if Ratten was being genuine in saying there is no issue (which he almost certainly wasn't), then he's a fool. Not arrogant, but just wrong.

Not sure defending a club backing in those that have obviously failed is the right way to go. Unless you want to argue him still leaning back closer to 90 degrees than upright after 3 full seasons working with those in place is a glowing reflection on them.

At this point refusing him getting some fundamental pointers from an all time great is well and truly arrogance. Lloyd isn't going to make his action any worse. Not sure that's even really possible from where it currently is.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Not sure defending a club backing in those that have obviously failed is the right way to go. Unless you want to argue him still leaning back closer to 90 degrees than upright after 3 full seasons working with those in place is a glowing reflection on them.

At this point refusing him getting some fundamental pointers from an all time great is well and truly arrogance. Lloyd isn't going to make his action any worse. Not sure that's even really possible from where it currently is.

Not much is the be gained by publicly calling out your colleagues though.

As a footy fan, I'd love more honesty and transparency - buy from their perspective, it's incredibly rare for a coach or anyone to publicly shame someone.


Basically, you're arrogant and lose respect externally if you defend your guys, and an arseh*le who will lose respect internally if you don't.


I don't disagree that they're failing in coaching King's kicking. And I don't disagree that Lloyd may well be someone who could help, but I think the response from Ratten was more about good leadership than arrogance.

Either that, or he's just stupid.



Having said that, King was a shit goal kicker at school when Lloyd coached him. So I'm not sold that Lloyd is the answer anyway.

 

[kozi]

Not much is the be gained by publicly calling out your colleagues though.

As a footy fan, I'd love more honesty and transparency - buy from their perspective, it's incredibly rare for a coach or anyone to publicly shame someone.


Basically, you're arrogant and lose respect externally if you defend your guys, and an a-hole who will lose respect internally if you don't.


I don't disagree that they're failing in coaching King's kicking. And I don't disagree that Lloyd may well be someone who could help, but I think the response from Ratten was more about good leadership than arrogance.

Either that, or he's just stupid.



Having said that, King was a s**t goal kicker at school when Lloyd coached him. So I'm not sold that Lloyd is the answer anyway.

Only ones trying to make this all about Ratten are the media after his post game comments. The language they're directing at him ought to be aimed at the club. My comments had nothing to do with him - It's the club being arrogant here.

Coaches obviously have to publicly back club decisions whether right or wrong. Not sure what else they expect him to do.