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I am probably the biggest Maxy fan on this forum. I didn't want to come into this thread again after posting earlier. He gets so much undeserved hate.

If the players vote Maxy as captain, he will be captain.

By the way, I don't think Pendles is ready for captaincy yet. If not Maxy, Ball for at least one year n a Scott burns type situation.

Anyway, is it still up to the players. I know they love Maxy and there are worse players in our 22. I don't like mentioning names but guys like brown, goldy, blair, O'Brien get more credit than Maxy undeservedly. Even cloke doesn't do his job as well as Maxy imo.

If I could have one guy to play for my life from current pies side, it would be Maxy.

I might come back to this thread in a few days, as this post may cop abuse
 
Tbone McGraw said:
By the way, I don't think Pendles is ready for captaincy yet. If not Maxy, Ball for at least one year n a Scott burns type situation.
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Unless Luke Ball is planning on retiring at the end of 2014 that is in no way a "Scott Burns" situation.

The next captain will be Pendleury or it will be Ball. If its Ball it wont be in a caretaker capacity.
 
Yes the players can choose Maxwell as their preferred captain which is fine, but I think Bucks should step in if that's the case. You can't pick a captain if he is not in your plans for best 22.

I had reservations about Pendlebury being captain but his speech at Copeland had more authority in the way he spoke than he had before. I'm confident he will be able to step up when the time soon comes.
 

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I love this thread. Obviously bigfooty forum posters are miles ahead of the coaches and players on this issue. While the club steadfastly maintains its desire to keep Maxwell captain, the BF forum has rightfully decided that we would be at least a 10 goal better side if Maxwell was gone.... probably a 4 goal better side if he wasnt captain.

It makes you wonder what they are thinking at the club. I know the BF forum places far more importance on the success of the club than the coaches and the players. The people posting in the forum sit for endless hours in front of their computers dutifully typing out their messages..... while the coaches and the players spend most of their time running around in the park having fun kicking a few footballs.

There comes a time when the key people..... the ones really affected by the decision.... the ones that have all the information and the level-headedness .... for these people to take over the decision-making process and not leave it to people like the players and the coaches who only have a passing interest in the success of the club.

Until that change in made in the decision-making process, we are going to experience the frustration of situations like these. I can only say to my fellow posters in the BF forum that I empathise with your frustration and I can only suggest that you look forward to the day when the forum rightfully makes decisions like these, rather than leaving them to the current interlopers.
 
Tbone McGraw said:
I am probably the biggest Maxy fan on this forum. I didn't want to come into this thread again after posting earlier. He gets so much undeserved hate.

If the players vote Maxy as captain, he will be captain.

By the way, I don't think Pendles is ready for captaincy yet. If not Maxy, Ball for at least one year n a Scott burns type situation.

Anyway, is it still up to the players. I know they love Maxy and there are worse players in our 22. I don't like mentioning names but guys like brown, goldy, blair, O'Brien get more credit than Maxy undeservedly. Even cloke doesn't do his job as well as Maxy imo.

If I could have one guy to play for my life from current pies side, it would be Maxy.

I might come back to this thread in a few days, as this post may cop abuse
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I agree with you. Particularly about Ball being the next Captain for a year or two. I believe it makes imminently more sense than throwing at Pendles into the job now.
 
peter9789 said:
I agree with you. Particularly about Ball being the next Captain for a year or two. I believe it makes imminently more sense than throwing at Pendles into the job now.
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I disagree vehemently.

Total insult to Ball and to Pendlebury to have a "caretaker" arrangement.

. If Pendlebury isnt ready now, he'll never be ready. If Ball is best man for the job thats fine too.....but not as a short term "minding the fort basis".....the job should be his for as long as hes good enough to do it.

Bottom line Pendles will be Captain next year if its not Maxwell.
 
Its such a no-brainer. As just said if Pendlebury isn't ready now he never will be. Additionally this isnt a comment on Maxwells legacy and contribution at the club but he cannot justify his spot in the team- end of story. Please end the misery and spare me from having to watch him panic and grab a players jumper any time he's forced to play one on one.
 
Markfs said:
I love this thread. Obviously bigfooty forum posters are miles ahead of the coaches and players on this issue. While the club steadfastly maintains its desire to keep Maxwell captain, the BF forum has rightfully decided that we would be at least a 10 goal better side if Maxwell was gone.... probably a 4 goal better side if he wasnt captain.

It makes you wonder what they are thinking at the club. I know the BF forum places far more importance on the success of the club than the coaches and the players. The people posting in the forum sit for endless hours in front of their computers dutifully typing out their messages..... while the coaches and the players spend most of their time running around in the park having fun kicking a few footballs.

There comes a time when the key people..... the ones really affected by the decision.... the ones that have all the information and the level-headedness .... for these people to take over the decision-making process and not leave it to people like the players and the coaches who only have a passing interest in the success of the club.

Until that change in made in the decision-making process, we are going to experience the frustration of situations like these. I can only say to my fellow posters in the BF forum that I empathise with your frustration and I can only suggest that you look forward to the day when the forum rightfully makes decisions like these, rather than leaving them to the current interlopers.
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You have summed up the situation very accurately. There can be no doubt that bigfooty posters have a role to play in the administration of the club and its football team. Players are under enough pressure without their presence being required at yet another meeting to select on-field leaders for next year.

That it has taken an outsider like you to point this out is an indictment of the 'interlopers' at the club who have failed to analyse and change decision making processes. The sooner we assume a direct role in these processes the better the club will become through our input.
 
TheGreatGrundy said:
You have summed up the situation very accurately. There can be no doubt that bigfooty posters have a role to play in the administration of the club and its football team. Players are under enough pressure without their presence being required at yet another meeting to select on-field leaders for next year.

That it has taken an outsider like you to point this out is an indictment of the 'interlopers' at the club who have failed to analyse and change decision making processes. The sooner we assume a direct role in these processes the better the club will become through our input.
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The problem is that the club continues rely on current pack of hacks like Buckley etc to make crucial decisions like these, rather than taking the simple step of relying on the survey results of questions posed at BF. How hard can it be for the club to look at these survey results. In fact, the club should be putting questions to the BF fraternity to determine the answers to all the key questions. Why ignore such a potent intellectual force that has years of experience in football matters??? Instead of stumbling around in the dark looking for a new culture, the club should adopt the results-orientated methods of the BF forum. I think the problem is the current coaches and management of the club are too worried about how it would look to start taking directions from the BF forum. I tell them to just make the change and get on with it....
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
If only Leading Teams was more inclusive and allowed Bigfooty posters to be in the inner sanctum....imagine how much a better place Collingwood would be
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I think BF has rightly said that leading teams is full of shit ...and the decision to exclude BF is only confirmation of this. It's a waste to spend money on LT when the forum is willing to do the same job for free...
 

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theroach78 said:
No doubt Scott is reading all of this and becoming even more negative on himself. You're forcing his hand out of the captaincy, guys. :rolleyes:
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Well he could take the pressure off himself by simply making a media statement saying that will consider the captaincy when BF indicates that he is ready to do it...
 
Tbone McGraw said:
cloke doesn't do his job as well as Maxy imo.
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Oh dear God no!

TheWoodsOf72 said:
I would not over rate O'Brien. His defence was shocking this year and I am not expecting him to be better. If anything he'll be exposed.
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O'Brien didn't play in defence this year. He played on the wing and would have been in our best 2 or 3 players until he had his spat with Bucks. He had a really good year.
 

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Tbone McGraw said:
I am probably the biggest Maxy fan on this forum. I didn't want to come into this thread again after posting earlier. He gets so much undeserved hate.

If the players vote Maxy as captain, he will be captain.

By the way, I don't think Pendles is ready for captaincy yet. If not Maxy, Ball for at least one year n a Scott burns type situation.

Anyway, is it still up to the players. I know they love Maxy and there are worse players in our 22. I don't like mentioning names but guys like brown, goldy, blair, O'Brien get more credit than Maxy undeservedly. Even cloke doesn't do his job as well as Maxy imo.

If I could have one guy to play for my life from current pies side, it would be Maxy.

I might come back to this thread in a few days, as this post may cop abuse
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Rubbish. He's been ready for 2 years. Why do you think he's not ready?
 
didaksrightfoot said:
oh c'mon... harry was one of our best this year, and was 5th in the Copeland
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Harry has a brittle element to his disposal and his run, and a chink in his philosophical armour caused a meltdown that saw him miss a few games. At least he tries to make something happen, but it's a shame his disposal skills let him down. But 5th in the Copeland cannot be ignored. He should stay (unless .....). :cool:
 
I am more then happy for Nick to move on, in fact i think it's time now. We need to fix up our defence (now with Shaw exit as well) and get it well and settled. I think we start with Maxwell in Rd1. Then see where it goes, then make the hard calls in Rd6 or so. Even earlier perhaps. I am happy for his service to the club. But i am not content with his talent at the moment. I back Frost to take Maxwells place. Bring on the Frost!
 

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