McDermott has NFI

[CaptainDangerfield]

You cannot say on one hand that Neil Craig has saved a number of current player careers (Massie, Stevens, Doughty, Bock and Rutten) with out at least considering he could have done the same thing to Brad Ottens.

2 first round pick was the asking price and that what Geelong paid. If Brad Ottens was with the AFC his fitness base and playing standard would be so different so them 2 first round pick could have looked like a god sent bargain.

I am getting fed up with this hatred of everyone who has a perceived biased against the Adelaide Football Club simply because they are willing to tell us the truth. Chris McDermott doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder or any hatred towards the AFC, he is just willing to say what’s actually happening with out adding a bit of sugar coating to appease the masses.

Neil Craig is under siege, the umpiring wasn’t bas last night and we don’t help the spectacle of the game when we slow it down.

yeah your right the umpriring wasn't bad last night, at one stage 16-4, in a close game isn't out of the ordinary .

As for the "slow it down" comment you and the old "kick it long/kick it long" ladies sitting behind me would gotten along fabulously. You don't think it makes it difficult to "kick it long" or "get it in quick" when you have 18 Collingwood players sitting in our forward line.

 

[Alex99]

yeah your right the umpriring wasn't bad last night, 16-4 in a close game isn't out of the ordinary .

As for the "slow it down" comment you and the old "kick it long/kick it long" ladies sitting behind me would gotten along fabulously. You don't think it makes it difficult to "kick it long" or "get it in quick" when you have 18 Collingwood players sitting in our forward line.

Of course it does, but the original question said that Adelaide were just as responsible as Collingwood for the negative, poor standard of the game and since we decided to play that way we have to take part of the responsibility of the spectacle of the game.

 

[Mad Dog]

Of course Neil Craig is a man under siege as we are sitting a game clear on top spot and he would be expected to take the club to it 3rd grand final appearance this year.

If we do not make the grand final now, major changes to the playing list should occur as well as questions asked about his ability to coach in finals. Last year it was easier to accept missing the grand final as it was unexpected but this year will be different. If we do not make the grand final, head should roll as this current group are obviously not up to playing in the crunch.

you're joking aren't you....

"Man under seige" ????

"Heads will Roll"..??

Port Power Board.....

 

[Mad Dog]

Comment made by both McDermott and Rucci that the premiership race was wide open. When was it ever closed? Adelaide's invincibility was a creature of the media and not of the AFCs making.
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exactly !

Those expecting that a premiership was going to be handed to us after Round 16 are the same Soft ***** who would more than likely try and nurse a 3 qtr time lead and end up losing the game.

In case anyone is confused - their are 15 other sides in the competition and the premiership will be won in September - not July or August.....

 

[Alex99]

you're joking aren't you....

"Man under seige" ????

"Heads will Roll"..??

Port Power Board.....

I am not saying Neil Craig should go as senior coach (far from it) but if we do not make the grand final from this stage of the season question have to be asked.

Maybe we have to take a step back and play the kids instead of the mid tier player (the Massie, Bode, Doughty, Shirley, Torney) so we can get a group of player that can perform in big games.

But I guess if we don’t make the grand final every thing will smell like roses and we will roll out the same 22 next year hoping for a different result, 3rd time lucky I guess.

 

[PrideOf]

On AA this morning, McDermott has categorically stated he doesn't hate the Crows and has absolutely no reason to.

I guess I'll take that at face value (although I would have thought been given his marching orders in no uncertain terms in October 1996 would be reason to ... if he did ... but he doesn't ... apparently).

So if he doesn't hate us, I guess he's taken a position where he tries to be unbiased to the point of coming across as anti-Adelaide.

 

[noddy]

Can't believe what i'm reading & hearing at the moment, so we got hammered by WCE last week & we struggled to beat a very competitive Collingwood last night & now apparently the sky is falling down.

McDermott is right in that we "do have problems that need to be addressed especially in our forward structure but he & Rucci also have their own agenda to run & that is to create headlines to further their own ambitions.

I can't recall too many Crow supporters laying claim that this years flag is in the bag & we only have to turn up at the G in september to claim our just reward some of the media tyros maybe but not many of us supporters were getting too carried away just yet.

 

[PrideOf]

I can't recall too many Crow supporters laying claim that this years flag is in the bag & we only have to turn up at the G in september to claim our just reward some of the media tyros maybe but not many of us supporters were getting too carried away just yet.

Or even the club. Neil's message over the past 2-3 months has been:

"We're nowhere near where I want us to be"
"We've got room for improvement"
"Our kids can play better"
"We're still learning how to play in the way I want"

And even last night, after a tough win:

"We're lucky, but we'll take it"

I know the media in its current state builds up stories simply so they've got something to tear down if it doesn't happen. That's what they've done with our season so far.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

you're joking aren't you....

"Man under seige" ????

"Heads will Roll"..??

Port Power Board.....

I must admit I was starting to get sick of Craigy trying too be politically correct in his after match media conference. Last night he was fantastic. He treated Rucci and others ridiculous questions with the lack of respect they deserved.

Strange isn't it. The more Port get closer and closer to their longest losing streak, the more critical Rucci gets of the Crows.

At least we can take comfort in the fact that thanks to Port Powers pathetic performances of this year, he is hurting badly. His hurt is splashed all over The Advertiser on a daily basis.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

I must admit - I got into the car last night and the first caller was from WA - and Huey, Duey, and Luey proceeded to talk about Fitzroy Crossing and some disco where she used to pick up men............

.............Mad Dog's temple's began to throb and he changed over to Triple M...

FiveAA - have turned the aftergame talkback time into a Discovery Channel phone in to see how many people in remote places around the planet listen to the call...

We're on the same wavelength Mad Dog. It drives me nucking futs listening to 5AA on the way home after a match when people ring from Saudi Arabia, London or Timbuk-****ing-tu. "So how long have you lived over there .... what's the weather like .... what time is it in XXX?". I guess talking about the football is out of the question.

As for McDermott, he's the biggest bandwagonner of all time. A couple of moderate efforts by the Crows and he reckons it's about time to jump off.

If the Crows happen to win the GF, you can bet McDermott will be the first bloke to proclaim he always knew they'd win it. He's a ****wit of the highest order.

His commentary skills are in line with his coaching record. Sh.ithouse.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

I must admit I was starting to get sick of Craigy trying too be politically correct in his after match media conference. Last night he was fantastic. He treated Rucci and others ridiculous questions with the lack of respect they deserved.

I got the sense Craig's patience is wearing a bit thin. You can bet Rucci will be on the phone to the Match Review Panel first thing Monday to make sure they assess the Ricciuto and Johncock incidents.

I think Rucci's efforts in regards to the Goodwin "stomping" incident with Everitt was the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

[Allefgib]

We're on the same wavelength Mad Dog. It drives me nucking futs listening to 5AA on the way home after a match when people ring from Saudi Arabia, London or Timbuk-****ing-tu. "So how long have you lived over there .... what's the weather like .... what time is it in XXX?". I guess talking about the football is out of the question.

As for McDermott, he's the biggest bandwagonner of all time. A couple of moderate efforts by the Crows and he reckons it's about time to jump off.

If the Crows happen to win the GF, you can bet McDermott will be the first bloke to proclaim he always knew they'd win it. He's a ****wit of the highest order.

His commentary skills are in line with his coaching record. Sh.ithouse.

I'm assuming you boys wouldn't appreciate if I called in from South Korea then after a game Been tempted to a few times given the way AA seems to be going for the international callers. I can understand how it ****s people but I think its a nice thrill to still be involved when you're far from home like some of the callers are.

 

[Mad Dog]

I am not saying Neil Craig should go as senior coach (far from it) but if we do not make the grand final from this stage of the season question have to be asked.

Maybe we have to take a step back and play the kids instead of the mid tier player (the Massie, Bode, Doughty, Shirley, Torney) so we can get a group of player that can perform in big games.

But I guess if we don’t make the grand final every thing will smell like roses and we will roll out the same 22 next year hoping for a different result, 3rd time lucky I guess.

These guys have been fantastic all year (apart from Torney) and are very much a part of the reason why we are 15 and 3 !!!

yes 15 and 3 - say it with me !!!!!!

Evolution will happen at our club - it has happened already in a "watershed year" that has seen us have our best Win/loss record so far.

Introductions of Porps, Maric, Vince - consolidation of Van Berlo.

Minor round footy is a bit different to the Major round - just ask West Coast and Sydney from last year - one struggled thru the year and got the ultimate prize - the other dominated all year and lost the GF........go figure ...

I just don't see why people want to burn the place down after 1 loss and a fighting win.... .......or maybe - as usual - it's a matter of having a whole bunch of opinions - so they can ultimately be right with one of them.....

 

[Mad Dog]

I'm assuming you boys wouldn't appreciate if I called in from South Korea then after a game Been tempted to a few times given the way AA seems to be going for the international callers. I can understand how it ****s people but I think its a nice thrill to still be involved when you're far from home like some of the callers are.

With all due respect buddy - I'm thrilled you're based in South Korea ATM - I really am... ..............but please if you ring up - talk footy - otherwise wait 'til Sunday mornings with Michael Keelan.....

 

[Allefgib]

With all due respect buddy - I'm thrilled you're based in South Korea ATM - I really am... ..............but please if you ring up - talk footy - otherwise wait 'til Sunday mornings with Michael Keelan.....

muuhahhaa.. the impression i get is that some folk want to talk footy but then the AA gang keep asking them distracting questions!

No point ringing up if you don't want to talk footy when its the after game call-back!!

I was thinking of calling up to say I was going to be in town for the Melb game and then the finals and SURELY you guys can help me out with some tickets

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Listening to 5AA on the way home from the game tonight (and I called in ) - according to Chris McDermott

1. The umpiring was OK.

2. Adelaide were just as responsible as Collingwood for the negative, poor standard of the game.

3. Neil Craig is "a man under siege".

I thought the umpiring was ok. The frees that we maybe could have got - Hentschel in marking contests (x3) and Bode's high tackle - were right in front of goal and it was the sort of tough, tight, low-scoring encounter where these sort of frees don't get paid. Very similar to finals.

Certainly Adelaide are partly responsible for the standard of the game. When the opposition has the ball, all our players are defenders - Total Football. This includes pushing numbers back. We can't blame other teams for doing the same. If both teams push numbers back you get what we saw in the 2nd and 3rd quarters last night - a stalemate. Neither team taking a risk.

"Man under seige" is a bit strong but Craig was certainly on edge in his press conference compared to other matches. He'd just sat through two hours of very tense football so pretty understandable. Whenever you hear a coach throw the question back at the questioner you know he's not at peace with the world.

Craig can be an ultra, ultra serious personality at times. Will this help the team relax and produce its best football in the finals?

 

[Von Douche]

Neil Craig is under siege, the umpiring wasn’t bas last night and we don’t help the spectacle of the game when we slow it down.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're easily the biggest bandwagoner on this site.

We lost one match (Admittedly very poorly) to a quality WC outfit on their home turf in a match that was season defining for their club and you go off and write us off as a premiership contender.

This week we come up against a club in turmoil. Four of their boys are making headlines for all the wrong reasons and one guy has just retired because he was at risk of becoming a cripple. We get over the line after they bottle it up as much as possible in a quality hard fought game and WE'RE IN CRISIS???

FFS get a grip of yourself. Neil Craig under siege? Club is in turmoil if we don't win the flag? Mid-tier players all need dropping?

We're 15-3: top of the ladder, effectively two games clear with our percentage and all but assured of a home final and an easier passage into the grand final (if we're good enough to make it) yet we're in turmoil? How's about a bit of perspective twat?

WC were absolutely flying last year after 12 rounds and with a similar percentage to what ours was at the same time - they had a slump at the end of the season (and earlier than this I might add) and yet still managed to make the grand final. Hold on, they didn't win it! Were/are they in turmoil?

Seem to be travelling alright to me. Get over yourself you handbag, if you want guaranteed success then perhaps you should start following Chelsea hardcore, at least you can buy your glory

 

[sworc36]

Johncock did punch that squib Broadie Holland in the guts (not enough to make any impact) but his clenched fist did head in a direction towards his mid rift and it appeared to make contact.

We had just won the last 8 game by an average winning margin of 64 points, the closes challenger was west coast who has just been belted by Collingwood. Every media scribe has every reason to suggest we were a lay down messier to win it all. After the West Coast lost gave 6 or 7 other club hope of winning it all.

How the **** does he has a chip on his shoulder, all he is doing is simply telling the truth and you just don’t like hearing it.

How many people here 2 weeks ago thought we were a laydown messier to win the GF this year? Anyone that knows anything about football knows that finals are a different ball game and that NO-ONE is a certainty. Although a lot of Eagles fans at the moment think its theirs already. But thats West Coast Supporters. As for last nights game. Yep wasnt the best display but considering we got steamrolled last week, have been trained pretty hard for the last couple of weeks, Collingwood being in the top 5, and how not many teams win after coming home from subiaco I think it was a good win. Every team has a lul period during the year i.e.WC hopefully this is ours and come finals time we will be up and firing again. As for Chris McDermott, he is very opinionated and its not a matter of not hearing the truth I just dont agree with his opinions. RE Not puting Roo in the middle. It was really evident last night that Roo made a difference.

 

[Scott Van Persett]

Neil Craig's interview on Channel 10 after the match was not one of a man under siege. He actually smiled and had a joke ! I think he gave Rucci the shortest answers possible due to the quality of questions. eg " What would your opinion be if one of your players was cited for a hit behind play?" When Neil Craig said he'd have to look at footage etc Rucci said "hypothetically speaking of course ? " Didn't ask Mick Malthouse about his attitude if one of his players was reported for tripping

Agree with the comments on McDermott-on the bandwagon when we're playing well and off it at the first signs of discomfort.

Darren Jarman's comments about Douglas were very interesting. Thinks his skills, decision making and poise under pressure are better than Bryce Gibbs

I thought Goldspink made a couple of bad decisions but in general was not too bad, Woodcock was good but the best I can say about Stevic is he suffers from colour blindness and can only see things in black and white-couldn't give a free kick in our forward line then pays the free to Tarrant at the end of the match.

I've heard that the Crows are being absolutely flogged on the track so I'm hoping that when the pressure is eased our form will improve. We have to get the first 3-4 goals and then teams will not be able to play the type of game Collingwood played. There's a fine line between a 10 point win and a 10 goal win

 

[tribey]

Neil Craig is under siege, the umpiring wasn’t bas last night and we don’t help the spectacle of the game when we slow it down.

And why did we slow it down? Because we were being flooded.

The only criticism I have of Rutten and Bassett is that they didn't take the spare time to build an ark.

There's an absolute screeching pineapple of a female behind me who loudly bleats whenever we go sideways or slow it down for lack of options - she's an absolute embarrassment to herself and our supporter base as a whole:

"C'mon Crows... NOOOOOO.... DON'T BE SO BLOODY STUPID"
"KICK IT... FOR GOD'S SAKE KICK IT"

Never mind that if you boot blindly to a contest you'll turn it over more often than not - as the defender always has the advantage in a pack situation. Always.

The attacker has to cleanly mark a bomb - a hard enough skill to execute on a dewy night anyway - whereas all the defender has to do is get something, anything, on the ball.

But nahhhh, let's just let loose a 50m bomb so a Fraser, Clement or Presti can punch down to a Licuria or Johnson who'll run 20m before kicking it 50m over our heads to Tarrant.

I want her beheaded and her coconut put on a pike in front of The Shed as a warning to all who might question the best defence in the league.

 

[sworc36]

Neil Craig's interview on Channel 10 after the match was not one of a man under siege. He actually smiled and had a joke ! I think he gave Rucci the shortest answers possible due to the quality of questions. eg " What would your opinion be if one of your players was cited for a hit behind play?" When Neil Craig said he'd have to look at footage etc Rucci said "hypothetically speaking of course ? " Didn't ask Mick Malthouse about his attitude if one of his players was reported for tripping

Agree with the comments on McDermott-on the bandwagon when we're playing well and off it at the first signs of discomfort.

Darren Jarman's comments about Douglas were very interesting. Thinks his skills, decision making and poise under pressure are better than Bryce GibbsI thought Goldspink made a couple of bad decisions but in general was not too bad, Woodcock was good but the best I can say about Stevic is he suffers from colour blindness and can only see things in black and white-couldn't give a free kick in our forward line then pays the free to Tarrant at the end of the match.

I've heard that the Crows are being absolutely flogged on the track so I'm hoping that when the pressure is eased our form will improve. We have to get the first 3-4 goals and then teams will not be able to play the type of game Collingwood played. There's a fine line between a 10 point win and a 10 goal win

Was it Darren or was it Rowey who said that they would pick RDouglas over BGibbs every single time? Im pretty sure it wasRowey but I could have been mistaken.

 

[Scott Van Persett]

Was it Darren or was it Rowey who said that they would pick RDouglas over BGibbs every single time? Im pretty sure it wasRowey but I could have been mistaken.

My apologies, it was Rowey. In any case, it was a big wrap for the kid

 

[macca23]

I am getting fed up with this hatred of everyone who has a perceived biased against the Adelaide Football Club simply because they are willing to tell us the truth. Chris McDermott doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder or any hatred towards the AFC, he is just willing to say what’s actually happening with out adding a bit of sugar coating to appease the masses.

Neil Craig is under siege, the umpiring wasn’t bas last night and we don’t help the spectacle of the game when we slow it down.

Stick with the facts.

McDermott was openly bitter about not getting an assistant coaching position when Blighty came and rissoled all of the old brigade. He DOES have a chip on his shoulder.

No, he doesn't add a bit of sugar to appease the masses. He adds a bit of lemon juice to sour it somewhat instead.

FFS, I thought we must have lost the way he carried on this morning. I ended up turning the radio off, and thank goodness didn't hear his feral rat comrade Rucci, who started his campaign to get Johncock suspended at the press conference last night.

If you were happy with the umpiring last night you are easily pleased. Most of Collingwood's frees were there - agreed.

BUT Hentschel was being mauled by a bloody octopus every time he went for the ball - arms wrapped all round him. Watch the replay, and then come back and tell me that he should not have had 4 to 5 frees right in front of goal. Then tell me that bode had his head wrencehd off and was still in the choke-hold when the umpire called the ball-up.

The umpiring was shyte, which is backed up by both stats and one's eyes.

If Neil Craig is under siege then Choco and coaches of other also-ran sides should be suicidal.

Get real!!

 

[macca23]

"Man under seige" is a bit strong but Craig was certainly on edge in his press conference compared to other matches. He'd just sat through two hours of very tense football so pretty understandable. Whenever you hear a coach throw the question back at the questioner you know he's not at peace with the world.

Craig can be an ultra, ultra serious personality at times. Will this help the team relax and produce its best football in the finals?

It wouldn't have helped having that treacherous feral Rucci trying to use the press conference to set one of your players up for a report.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

I'm assuming you boys wouldn't appreciate if I called in from South Korea then after a game Been tempted to a few times given the way AA seems to be going for the international callers. I can understand how it ****s people but I think its a nice thrill to still be involved when you're far from home like some of the callers are.

Mate, no problem with the people from o.s. ringing. Just wouldn't mind if the conversation centred around footy rather than foreign culture.