MCG Ground invasion fine

[Maybenextyear]

I noticed at the MCG last night that the fine for stepping onto the MCG is $9.367.60.

Don't get me wrong as ground invaders are pointless ( cricket excluded ) but how on earth did the MCG come up with such an exact ridiculous amount? Five grand? ten grand? .....but no! $9,367.60.

How on earth is the 60 cents justified? Was some lucky red taped fool entrusted with the job of coming up with this amount? Whoever you are Bravo......for taking stupid to an entire new level and most probably being highly paid for doing it. I would actually pay to see the break down on the fine calculations.

 

[Gavin Excell]

I noticed at the MCG last night that the fine for stepping onto the MCG is $9.367.60.

Don't get me wrong as ground invaders are pointless ( cricket excluded ) but how on earth did the MCG come up with such an exact ridiculous amount? Five grand? ten grand? .....but no! $9,367.60.

How on earth is the 60 cents justified? Was some lucky red taped fool entrusted with the job of coming up with this amount? Whoever you are Bravo......for taking stupid to an entire new level and most probably being highly paid for doing it. I would actually pay to see the break down on the fine calculations.

Look its an important question and I'm glad you've raised it

 

[Maybenextyear]

Look its an important question and I'm glad you've raised it

Get in line and , jump the fence and pay your $9,367.60 fine .......sheep.

 

[Underarm]

It's based on Victorian fines being measure in 'units'. 1 unit = $157.67c or something wacko like that.

 

[M Malice]

 

[Russian Demon]

It's based on Victorian fines being measure in 'units'. 1 unit = $157.67c or something wacko like that.

So a penalty unit is $155.46 until June.

https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/fines-and-infringements/penalty-units

so that makes the fine... 60.2753 units. Which makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

In conclusion, i agree with the OP.

 

[Belnakor]

believe that is the maximum fine, previous fines have been much less than that.

 

[STFU Donnie]

It is a curiously precise number!

 

[Billy ray]

Probably started off as a round number and then a precise CPI figure was used to escalate it in year 2,3,4 etc

 

[Cicero]

Am I the only one who has read the Major Sporting Events Act 2009? Honestly people.

http://www.mcg.org.au/the-stadium/visitor-information/ground-regulations


I direct you to page 66:

"67 Entry into sporting competition space

(1) A person must not enter a sporting competition space within an event venue unless the person— (a) is participating in a match, game, sport or event held with the permission of the venue manager or event organiser; or (b) is engaged in the control or management of any such match, game, sport or event; or s. 65 Authorised by the Chief Parliamentary Counsel Part 4—Crowd Management Major Sporting Events Act 2009 No. 30 of 2009 67 (c) has the authorisation, or is a member of a class of person that has the authorisation, of the venue manager or the event organiser to enter or remain in the sporting competition space; or (d) is, or is a member of a class of person that is, otherwise authorised to enter and remain in the sporting competition space. Penalty: 10 penalty units.

(2) A person who is in the sporting competition space must not, without reasonable excuse, disrupt the match, game, sport or event. Penalty: 60 penalty units."


The penalty unit is, as stated above, $155.46. 60 Penalty units = $9327.60. This explains the 60 cents.

The $40 discrepancy means 1 of 3 things I can think of.

1 - OP muddled the numbers and was so enthralled with the 60 cents that he/she transposed another 6 into the figure.

2 - Signwriter sucks at his job.

3- MCG gettin a lil sumtin sumtin on top.

 

[LightTower4]

Includes GST?
Fine is $8516 which is the round number you would expect.
10% is $851.60
Equals $9367.60

 

[Benny78]

Wow fined to walk on the ground our grandfathers tax dollars built. If we can't walk on it then the AFL/Clubs and Ch7 should reimburse the families for the public costs back then.

 

[calaisking]

Below average AFL players are getting paid that a game to step on the MCG.

Amazing

 

[kickazz]

Wow fined to walk on the ground our grandfathers tax dollars built. If we can't walk on it then the AFL/Clubs and Ch7 should reimburse the families for the public costs back then.

Yeah it should be a ****ing free for all, no one wants a game without dickheads interrupting it.

 

[Benny78]

Yeah it should be a ******* free for all, no one wants a game without dickheads interrupting it.

I'm saying it either should be free admission. Or they can build the stadium.

I keep hearing nothing is free. Yet almost every example of infrastructure used by the private sector was funded by the public.

 

[Ron The Bear]

It's based on Victorian fines being measure in 'units'. 1 unit = $157.67c or something wacko like that.

At least call them "credits" and acknowledge they ripped off the idea from Demolition Man.

 

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

 

[The Joker]

Wow fined to walk on the ground our grandfathers tax dollars built. If we can't walk on it then the AFL/Clubs and Ch7 should reimburse the families for the public costs back then.

None of which actually made the law...

 

[my name was taken]

Includes GST?
Fine is $8516 which is the round number you would expect.
10% is $851.60
Equals $9367.60

A fine is neither a good or service

 

[_Mike_]

The MCG/MCC has no legal power to impose a fine in the same way the police do. It is a civil matter that you'd have to do to court for should you refuse to pay.

The criminal matter is trespass, which is different.

 

[Fuzzy Happy Poo]

I was going to invade the ground hand have the fine in cash ready to hand them, the've made it a lot difficult with these exact dollars and cents.
the exact figure is obviuosly to stop people carrying round $10,000 blocks of cash to pay the fine. it's now a lot harder to get the exact cash so it is no longer worth it.

 

[yodellinhank]

The MCG/MCC has no legal power to impose a fine in the same way the police do. It is a civil matter that you'd have to do to court for should you refuse to pay.

The criminal matter is trespass, which is different.

According to Cicero it is written into law. So an MCC security guard would make a citizens arrest and the matter would be dealt with by police.

 

[_Mike_]

According to Cicero it is written into law. So an MCC security guard would make a citizens arrest and the matter would be dealt with by police.

Not quite but I understand your intention. The criminal act applies to the act of trespass on crown land. An offence against the crown is subject to the penalty units imposed. trespass to personal property is a civil tort and you sue for damages as a breach of that civil right of ownership. It's not a criminal fine per se

AFAIK the MCG is not commonwealth land

 

[Cicero]

Not quite but I understand your intention. The criminal act applies to the act of trespass on crown land. An offence against the crown is subject to the penalty units imposed. trespass to personal property is a civil tort and you sue for damages as a breach of that civil right of ownership. It's not a criminal fine per se

AFAIK the MCG is not commonwealth land

You seem smart.

I am not.

But in my view I dont believe the money goes to the MCG/MCC? If it is an act of parliament then the fine would go to our supreme overlords as all other fines do?

As such that makes it a criminal matter? I know not.

 

[_Mike_]

As such that makes it a criminal matter? I know not.

It is a civil matter - trespass to persons, chattels or property under the Civil Liabilities Act.

What the MCC does is seek to impose damages in the sum of the nominated form for your breach of their civil right.

How it works

- your entry to the MCC is a contract subject to conditions indicated on the ticket, or elsewhere as nominated (collateral contract)
- your entry is revocable should you breach the conditions
- one of those conditions of the contract is that you do not trespass on the playing field without consent of the MCC and it's delegate authority (club officials, arena pass, auskick etc)

What the MCC seek to do is claim damages for civil trespass and breach of contract. If you don't pay their damages claim (contracted upon entry), they still have to take you to court and force an order.

Hope that helps with the understanding