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McPhee
- Thread starter Gizza
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McPhee didn't necessarily cost us the game, but the only way we were going to win was through pure adrenalin and the crowd carrying the side. From 2-3 goals down in the third quarter, McPhee DIRECTLY made it blow out to 6-7 goals and it would have deflated the entire side and crowd.
The hysteria you speak of is not ridiculous, he was absolutely atrocious tonight.
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Sorry mate, cant agree with you.
The incident which lead to Broughton, I think, getting dumped because Mcphee didnt lay a sheppard was heartbreaking.
It's not like he needed to do anything special, one step to his right and Broughton was clear with time, instead he stood still, Broughton gets dumped, Collingwood take posession and goal.
I can appreciate the unluckyness of the marking contest, but the lack of sheppard, then to run into Fyfe's space was terrible.
Game was won and lost on a few plays where his incompetence lead to Collingwood goals.
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I think people are being a bit hysterical too. He had a pretty crap game, but we'll have a few embarrassed posters here once they watch the replay. I didn't think his game was a lot worse than some others .. ie Fyfe, Taz, Mayne, Ibbo. As for comments such as " worst game by an individual in a very long time", well all I can say is its obvious you don't have the opportunity to watch many games. I try and watch 8 games each weekend/week and i've seen worse every week (in this season alone).
I think this is an important point to make. It's not that he's playing consistently terribly (I thought his first half was OK, I also don't think that he can be expected to play on Cloke, given Cloke's size advantage), it is just that at crucial times he manages to change the momentum of the game by turning it into a 12 point play to the opposition(this is a fairly big exaggeration).
One particular occassion was when he dropped Pav's handball in the centre square (handball was a far way behind him) and I'm pretty sure they went and scored a goal. I think it is examples like this which is generating the dislike for McPhee when in fact his overall gameplay is not bad.
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Yep, worse than Fyfe's.
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Right. Because in order to win an AA jumper as you put it 'the loose man in defense', one would think that reading the play may perhaps be essential.
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- #62
The play has changed in six years.Right. Because in order to win an AA jumper as you put it 'the loose man in defense', one would think that reading the play may perhaps be essential.
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As i said, watch the St Kilda/Richmond/WC games again please.
One bad game in a month doesn't warrant this bullshit.
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- #65
What was good about the Richmond game? Or the Saints game?
He's had two-three passable matches in eight games. Not good enough from a player who can't learn any more.
What does he bring to the side that Grover doesn't?
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Oh, wow. Disposal efficiency.
Let's select everyone on that. McPhee should be put in the midfield ahead of Barlow, Palmer, Hill, etc, because he has 100% disposal efficiency.
Moron.
IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN
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- #67
Hahaha. Which part? Man on man contests, or zone defense, which that bastion of elite coaching intelligence, Robert Shaw, noted last week, had been around for 20 years.
You're mind is made up. No real need for anyone else to post
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Yeah, you're right. If your team mate has their opponent done for a mark in a one-on-one, coming over the top and spoiling them improperly has been dumb footy for 50 years. Good thing McPhee didn't do that.
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- #69
Fyfe's played 3 games.
Mcphee what 150 plus?
Mcphee also failed to do the team things when it mattered, he refused to lay a sheppard, he then ran his man into Fyfe's space leading to a turnover. He also spoiled Silvanghi, when there was no need.
Fyfe's game was not good, it was a real wake up call and eye opener I would imagine, but to compare the two is folly.
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I'm just putting his stats up against Fyfe's as an example of your hypocrasy, and the way you play your little faves. Give me some evidence as to why Fyfe's game, or Mayne's or Ibbo's was significantly better than Mcphee's?
OK so you don't think DE, clangers or tackles count for anything Einstein? let's just go on your 'vibe of it" then.
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Watch the games tit. Even you will notice the positives. I could point out that sick chain of handballs and then kick to Pav against Richmond, but there is no point. You don't want to see any positives, so you wont.
I'd rebut and say, he has had 2-3 bad games this season.
What does McPhee bring that grover doesn't? Run, which is a core reason for us doing so well this year.
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Hypocrite. You bag the shit out of a guy like Schammer for his disposal efficiency and believe he shouldn't get a game because of it, then when McPhee has 100% DE and other players are sub 50%, you cry that it's not all about DE........wtf?
Amazing how no true docker supporter can see this.
1 Mcphee on performances over the last 8 weeks is NOT in our top 22
2 Any other player performing like he has WOULD NOT be in the team.
3 Sets a shocking example for players who try hard and perform once given an opportunity (eg Kep)
4 Consistantly fumbles and turns it over.
5 Grover Kep Suban or dare I say it even Dodd would be a better option.
6 If he continues to be selected and plays the way he has, this ultimately could undo what has been a promising start to the season.
1 Mcphee on performances over the last 8 weeks is NOT in our top 22
2 Any other player performing like he has WOULD NOT be in the team.
3 Sets a shocking example for players who try hard and perform once given an opportunity (eg Kep)
4 Consistantly fumbles and turns it over.
5 Grover Kep Suban or dare I say it even Dodd would be a better option.
6 If he continues to be selected and plays the way he has, this ultimately could undo what has been a promising start to the season.
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It's spelled hypocrisy, moron.I'm just putting his stats up against Fyfe's as an example of your hypocrasy, and the way you play your little faves. Give me some evidence as to why Fyfe's game, or Mayne's or Ibbo's was significantly better than Mcphee's?
OK so you don't think DE, clangers or tackles count for anything Einstein? let's just go on your 'vibe of it" then.
And yes, I go off my own eyes, not stats. Fyfe's a young kid, who is learning the game.
There is nothing left to teach McPhee.
Ibbo's game was terrible, worst on ground for mine. Mayne's was better, but only slightly.
But all those three guys either have upside or have 100 games left for the club.
McPhee is a limited player. He needs to perform now. Being a complete chump is not good enough. He can't turn in the same performances as 18 year olds and expect an easy break.