Roast Media/McClure Misrepresenting Mental Mess on Mindful Camp

[Sanders]

So do you have anything new to add other than your habitual derogatory smart-ass comments?

Just happy to help

 

[Godallblighty]

It's funny cos it's true.
https://www.titusoreily.com/afl/the-worst-ideas-of-afl-season-2018

Adelaide’s Preseason Camp
Entering this year, the Crows were coming off a season in which they almost made it to a Grand Final. Hopes were high, then came the preseason camp run by Collective Mind in which the players endured the sort of torture usually reserved for refugees seeking asylum in Australia.The resulting angst, division and media speculation saw the Crows season marred by injury, rumours and players wanting out. Apparently, the players were put through all sorts of ‘mental strength training’, which seemed to result in them all having a collective breakdown. It also seemed to take time away from training for football, which it turns out is fairly crucial for a football side.

Adelaide Crows hold a media conference on a Saturday
If having Collective Mind run your preseason camp wasn’t bad enough, the Crows handling of it was arguably as bad. After denying anything was wrong with the camp to media and fans, the Crows buckled under the pressure of facts and conducted a weirdly timed (Saturday afternoon with footy about to start) and bizarre media conference to concede the camp was a massive failure. This was another terrible idea. Adelaide’s head of football Brett Burton and coach Don Pyke conceded things had gone poorly but were pretty light on details and seemed not too keen to accept much of that annoying responsibility. Well, not in the sense that it came with any actual consequences. People are quite happy to say ‘I take full responsibility’ if they know nothing will happen to them. Burton even tried to defend the fact Collective Mind had no relevant credentials by stating:

“These guys are not psychologists; they don’t profess to be psychologists. They’re mental skills coaches.”

Burton seemed to miss the fact that his statement wasn’t a defence but the point everyone critical of the club was making. We already knew they didn’t have any credentials because ‘mental skill coaches’ isn’t a real thing.

Collective Mind media conference
Learning nothing from the Crows shambolic response, Collective Mind decided to also hold a media conference but waited until after the end of the regular season to do so. This meant it just kept the issue going long past the point anyone cared anymore. To think they probably paid some PR agency to provide them with this terrible advice. The media release announcing the Collective Mind conference claimed it would ‘clear the air’, but you’d be surprised to learn that it didn’t. In a rambling, corporate speak filled performance, the collective minds at Collective Mind said the camp had been a complete success, and they had had no negative feedback and that business was now going great, thank you very much. It meant that either the Crows were lying, or Collective Mind were or (probably the clubhouse favourite) both were. The whole media conference was a mess and made you realise that if the Crows hierarchy fell for these guys, then changes need to be made.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Bullseye on every front

 

[John Who]

Just read on an article from random browsing. The article notes a pattern of media bias attacking the Crows after the 2017 GF loss:
https://www.footyalmanac.com.au/footy-media-watch-why-does-everyone-hate-the-crows-all-of-a-sudden/

Started with Lever wanting to join Melbourne, and somehow the AFC are shown by some of these media asses, to be in a disharmonious state. This set a trend for the media to be attacking the club all throughout the summer between 2017 and 2018.

 

[John Who]

It's funny cos it's true.
https://www.titusoreily.com/afl/the-worst-ideas-of-afl-season-2018

It almost seems like a summary of all the main points by BigFooty Crows board!

There were a few mis-truths in the quoted article above. Examples:
“Players wanting out” - actually only one - McGovern. A player who was so traumatised by the Camp that he’s going to the best club possible to avoid further traumas - Carlton.

“ ‘mental skills’ coaches aren’t a real thing” - actually it is. Here’s a relevant article:
https://www.bustle.com/p/what-is-a-...major-events-like-the-winter-olympics-8233421

 

[Elite Crow]

You felt like all this needed to be rehashed John? Perhaps you should have started a thread, oh wait you bumped one of your threads.

 

[FR0GGY]

And people think the media don’t let things go!

 

[John Who]

Sorry can’t help myself. *evil laugh*

 

[Sanders]

Sorry can’t help myself. *evil laugh*

Yeah, *evil*

 

[spenze]

Yeah, *evil*

Do I need to read this thread for Johns outstanding medical opinion of the camp?

 

[Sanders]

Do I need to read this thread for Johns outstanding medical opinion of the camp?

I reckon you could probably make a pretty good guess and save the time

 

[vaughany]

Will the truth about the camp now be revealed?

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[Johnny Rutten]

Will the truth about the camp now be revealed?

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What camp?

 

[Mismatched]

Will the truth about the camp now be revealed?

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Its been revealed, just not by the club.

Just read on an article from random browsing. The article notes a pattern of media bias attacking the Crows after the 2017 GF loss:
https://www.footyalmanac.com.au/footy-media-watch-why-does-everyone-hate-the-crows-all-of-a-sudden/

Started with Lever wanting to join Melbourne, and somehow the AFC are shown by some of these media asses, to be in a disharmonious state. This set a trend for the media to be attacking the club all throughout the summer between 2017 and 2018.

I think those Media asses might have been onto something there John...

 

[ad victoriam]

Just read on an article from random browsing. The article notes a pattern of media bias attacking the Crows after the 2017 GF loss:
https://www.footyalmanac.com.au/footy-media-watch-why-does-everyone-hate-the-crows-all-of-a-sudden/

Started with Lever wanting to join Melbourne, and somehow the AFC are shown by some of these media asses, to be in a disharmonious state. This set a trend for the media to be attacking the club all throughout the summer between 2017 and 2018.

More like started when the Crows started putting pressure on Rucci, and he railed his mates

 

[Crow till I die]

Adelaide chairman admits infamous pre-season camp has "dogged" club

“It’s been distracting.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[John Who]

Its been revealed, just not by the club.



I think those Media asses might have been onto something there John...

It doesn’t take a journalistic Einstein to know a club from being a Grand Finalist to being 2 seasons outside the top 8 thereafter, to come up with an idea that there will be angst amongst club, players and fans.

Basically, I’m asking these so called journos “what exactly went on for you to call it a debacle/disaster?” The onus is on them to quantify what they mean, since they’re the ones reporting such horrible news.

 

[John Who]

One thing’s for sure, McAdam isn’t afraid to crash into packs.

 

[John Who]

Oops sorry, wrong thread.