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Yes and once she is determined to be of no danger to the community, she will be out back in the community - if she hasn’t already been having supervised community outings we aren’t being told about.She hardly got a lighter sentence when you consider she has been committed for schizophrenia...
She's being monitored - what's your point? So far your topic has been disproved by many people. Now what are you trying to do? Just take pot shots at her because she's a woman and Freeman who PLEAD NOT GUILTY TO INSANITY is an innocent victim?Yes and once she is determined to be of no danger to the community, she will be out back in the community - if she hasn’t already been having supervised community outings we aren’t being told about.
Cy Walsh is already out and about, albeit under supervision
Meanwhile Arthur Freeman is in actual big boys jail doing a 30 year bit.
It does happen, I've seen it, but you rarely get to hear about it...Where's your proof? You keep saying this yet you have never provided any proof other than your anecdote.
Which is what we say when women commit horrfic acts but not when men do it.
Hit nail head.Which is what we say when women commit horrfic acts but not when men do it.
My view is none at all for deliberate child killers. Mental health can explain reasons for such actions but it doesnt excuse them. If we are a monster due to mental health issues then we are still a monster. Mental health just explains how we came to be a monster.Hit nail head.
When a father commits such an act, he is a vile, soulless, monster who confirms all our pre conceived internal bias’ that men are inherently violent and a threat to children. We see a million Op-Ed’s from the Rosie Batty’s and Van Banshee’s of this world, demanding something be ‘done’ to address Australia’s culture of toxic masculinity and violence against women and children. Etc etc etc.
These men must be locked up forever.
When a women commits such an act, the same voices will immediately ask what on earth could of driven a women and a mother to such an an act. Endless excuses will be made....poverty, mental health, the pressure cooker of being a single mum with 7 kids. Etc etc.
Put plainly, society and the media are more willing to empathise with female child murderers over there male counterparts.
Empathy towards these people is something that needs to swing both ways, or none at all.
Wait, are we talking about one case here or not? You seem to be flip flopping everywhere on this. One moment it's the ABC, next it's everyone else.. Then you're trying to compare two different cases.So PND is an excuse for murdering 8 children is it?
Curious, what headspace do you think Arthur Freeman was in when he decided to drop his child from the West Gate Bridge?
Men have suffered depression and schizophrenia. Many murderers have. Depression and schizophrenia does not absolve us of responsibility. Especially depression. The Jonestown leader who murdered 900 people became extremely depressed and schizophrenic in the months leading up to his massacre. His ailments do not absolve him.When have men suffered postnatal depression?
Of course they have, but in relation to children?Men have suffered depression and schizophrenia. Many murderers have. Depression and schizophrenia does not absolve us of responsibility. Especially depression. The Jonestown leader who murdered 900 people became extremely depressed and schizophrenic in the months leading up to his massacre. His ailments do not absolve him.
The fact you are trying to justify child killing based on depression makes me vomit inside. Its sickening. My wife suffered pre natal depression. Not once did the thought of harming her kids cross her mind let alone murdering them. That only crosses the mind of sick people. Depressioncan be the tipping point between thought and action and nothing more. Your post is seriously sick.
I don’t think it is the countries perception at all.A few articles isn't enough to change the country's perception that only men are violent towards women and children.
Just their mother? Sure....The left relishes blaming white men when it comes to serial killings, yet invariably behind every white man who kills a bunch of women is an abusive mother. Suddenly they lose their taste for identity bashing.
The insanity defence rests on a couple of points. Did the person understand what they were doing? And did they understand that it was wrong?It beggars belief that anyone could accept the mental illness narrative as being justification for less media attention or a lighter sentence. Every serial killer, spree killer, every true monster in society is "mentally ill". Anti-social personality disorder / psychopathy and what ever else. Sane people don't do this sh*t ffs.
Thaiday even likely contributed to her own illness via years of drug abuse.
I spent plenty of time throughout my 20s in psych wards, and they have sayings in the industry such as "Your illness is not your fault, but it is your responsibility". I'm all for mental health advocacy, but when a person does something so truly evil as Thaiday did, I don't believe mental illness should be a consideration in sentencing.
Next there'll be arguments that paedophilia is a mental illness and deserves lighter sentencing.