News Media Thread, 2023: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

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bzparkes

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Wooshaaaa

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Harley Reid could, and probably will, make millions playing football at the highest level. You can’t argue that if he doesn’t want to enter the draft he can go play state league footy where the maximum pay is a tiny fraction of that. You’re massively, massively limiting his earning potential doing that. That’s not a genuine choice he has.

The law is that restraints are allowed provided they’re reasonable. Otherwise, denying workers their choice of employer is an unreasonable restraint of trade. You can’t tell a top med student who could make big coin working in a big private hospital that, too bad, he’s needed in a poor rural hospital on the other side of the country, and if he doesn’t like it he can just go work in a local doctor’s surgery. No other industry works that way.

The argument that the AFL would run, if anyone took it to court, is that draft is a reasonable measure in order to promote the evenness of the competition.

The counter to that is that other competitions seem to do reasonably well in the evenness stakes without a draft. The NRL, for example, has a decent spread of recent premiers and finalists. You have teams that are perennially up the pointy end and teams that are perennially struggling, but so do we. So is the draft really adding anything?

It’s all a moot point because no one is challenging it any time soon, but it’s a clear restraint and arguably not a necessary one.

"You can’t tell a top med student who could make big coin working in a big private hospital that, too bad, he’s needed in a poor rural hospital on the other side of the country, and if he doesn’t like it he can just go work in a local doctor’s surgery"

That's exactly what happens to med students when they graduate...a lot. It's called an internship.and they do it for 2 yrs. They rarely get to choose the hospital and often are forced into the rural regions. When you graduate from ambulance service, the first job is assigned to you by the employer (state govt) and if you refuse you go to the back of the que.

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bzparkes

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"You can’t tell a top med student who could make big coin working in a big private hospital that, too bad, he’s needed in a poor rural hospital on the other side of the country, and if he doesn’t like it he can just go work in a local doctor’s surgery"

That's exactly what happens to med students when they graduate...a lot. It's called an internship.and they do it for 2 yrs. They rarely get to choose the hospital and often are forced into the rural regions. When you graduate from ambulance service, the first job is assigned to you by the employer (state govt) and if you refuse you go to the back of the que.

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Funnily enough, a lot of rural GPs get paid more than their big-city counterparts.

Also doctors have to keep studying and passing exams quite regularly if they want to hit the bigger pay packets.

You're bang on about them moving around after graduating though, friend of mine did an internship in Townsville, came to Brisbane for a year and had to move hospitals 3 times, before getting sent back to Townsville to complete her first couple of years.

She's in pediatrics and it takes around 12 years of study all up to manage your own department at a hospital, provided you're passing your exams.
 

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"You can’t tell a top med student who could make big coin working in a big private hospital that, too bad, he’s needed in a poor rural hospital on the other side of the country, and if he doesn’t like it he can just go work in a local doctor’s surgery"

That's exactly what happens to med students when they graduate...a lot. It's called an internship.and they do it for 2 yrs. They rarely get to choose the hospital and often are forced into the rural regions. When you graduate from ambulance service, the first job is assigned to you by the employer (state govt) and if you refuse you go to the back of the que.

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Hah. Maybe that was a bad example then. I should have gone with a law example, or something else I would’ve vaguely known what I was talking about :eek:
 

ROO DOGG

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"You can’t tell a top med student who could make big coin working in a big private hospital that, too bad, he’s needed in a poor rural hospital on the other side of the country, and if he doesn’t like it he can just go work in a local doctor’s surgery"

That's exactly what happens to med students when they graduate...a lot. It's called an internship.and they do it for 2 yrs. They rarely get to choose the hospital and often are forced into the rural regions. When you graduate from ambulance service, the first job is assigned to you by the employer (state govt) and if you refuse you go to the back of the que.

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MrWoollie

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There's actually a lot.
Especially where the employer pays for training. Expects a return for the investment.
Air Force pilot - finish the course and you have a Return of Service Obligation (ROSO) of 10 years. And you go where they want you.
Qantas pilot cadetships was another.
Virgin and Jetstar used to train FO's on a contracted payback basis. Don't know if they still do.

Guy I went to school with had his accountancy degree partially paid for. Firm had a right to recruit him on graduation.
 

KERRPOW

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There's actually a lot.
Especially where the employer pays for training. Expects a return for the investment.
Air Force pilot - finish the course and you have a Return of Service Obligation (ROSO) of 10 years. And you go where they want you.
Qantas pilot cadetships was another.
Virgin and Jetstar used to train FO's on a contracted payback basis. Don't know if they still do.

Guy I went to school with had his accountancy degree partially paid for. Firm had a right to recruit him on graduation.
Main roads used to do an engineering cadetship (dunno if they still do).

From memory they paid your 3rd and 4th years off, paid vac work and also a fortnightly allowance during uni.

There was a payback of 4 years from memory, but the salary was pretty low.

The company where i worked as a VAC student offered me a graduate position and a 5k 'scholarship'. The catch was i had to work there for 12months.

This was a long time ago (13 years)
 

Big_Birdy

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"You can’t tell a top med student who could make big coin working in a big private hospital that, too bad, he’s needed in a poor rural hospital on the other side of the country, and if he doesn’t like it he can just go work in a local doctor’s surgery"

That's exactly what happens to med students when they graduate...a lot. It's called an internship.and they do it for 2 yrs. They rarely get to choose the hospital and often are forced into the rural regions. When you graduate from ambulance service, the first job is assigned to you by the employer (state govt) and if you refuse you go to the back of the que.

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The analogy isn’t correct though. You are getting to the employer you want to get to, who also wants to employ you, knowing the rules of that employer.

The draft stops you from going to the employer you want to be employed by, who also wants to employ you, by a third party.
 
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The draft stops you from going to the employer you want to be employed by, who also wants to employ you, by a third party.
There's a simple fix to that: contracts are registered to the AFL. All players become employees of the AFL, and are assigned to work locations (ie the teams) per the AFL's rules and conditions of employment.
 

Big_Birdy

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There's a simple fix to that: contracts are registered to the AFL. All players become employees of the AFL, and are assigned to work locations (ie the teams) per the AFL's rules and conditions of employment.

This is actually what I thought was the case. Until I was advised otherwise by a friend in the industry
 

Bleedblueandgold

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No different to what the Eagles have mostly experienced since their inception.
Surprised that anyone would even be surprised about it.
In away games they barrack against us.
In home games Pav barracks against us.
It's what we have always come to expect.
 

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Speaking of incompetent social media team. solid fail on this one - 'Friday' (actually saturday) 30th of September



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