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Opinion Medical Retirements, Concessions, & The West Coast Eagles

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In the wake of Harry Edwards’ second concussion in as many games this season, and not withstanding a medical miracle, he can likely expect to be sent to Melbourne to front an independent concussion panel to determine the future of his playing career.

If, heaven forbid, it is the case that he is forced into medical retirement it would amount to now 4 best 23 Eagles (Venables, Shep, McGovern, Edwards, not included but also retired being Luke Edwards) being retired due to circumstances beyond their or the club’s control. And of course other famous cases are to be made for clubs like Melbourne, Dogs, Pies, etc. for players retired due to concussion.

List management perspective of WCE specifically aside, as I could go on for days about the impacts of losing those 4 on the current side, what is the AFL to do about these cases in the modern era where a player’s future is (rightly) taken out of the hands of the clubs?

To that I pose:

1. Should the AFL provide D&T concessions for clubs who have a player medically retired moving forward?

2. Should the AFL retroactively provide D&T concessions for clubs who have had a player medically retired recently?

3. What should the D&T concessions be if so? And how should they be determined?

For the sake of exercise I suggest we use these 3 players as examples:

1. Jeremy McGovern, 33
19 games in 2024, 6 games before forced retirement in 2025. 2024 AA + B&F and one of the clubs top earners.

2. Aiden O’Driscoll, 18
Drafted with pick 55 in the 2023 draft and forced to retire after this first AFL practice match.

3. Nathan Murphy, 24
24 games in Collingwood’s Premiership season, and an important part of that defence.

All 3 were at different stages of their career, and perception of them as players completely different.

Would love to hear people’s thoughts.

Of course I believe, as a West Coast fan, that we should receive compensation from the AFL given we have had more than any other club while being in the midst of a rebuild. But I am more focused on the general idea(s)
 
Nah it’s too much of a slippery slope.
Why would it be limited to head knocks? What about knees?

But I do think if one club is having a problem with one specific injury type to their list, they are obliged to work through what the root cause is and work to rectify it. I’d be open to the AFL assisting with resources in doing this.
 
Nah it’s too much of a slippery slope.
Why would it be limited to head knocks? What about knees?

Because the AFL is the one making the call on the player's future, not the player/club.

But I do think if one club is having a problem with one specific injury type to their list, they are obliged to work through what the root cause is and work to rectify it. I’d be open to the AFL assisting with resources in doing this.

The root cause is getting hit in the head.
 
Nah it’s too much of a slippery slope.
Why would it be limited to head knocks? What about knees?

But I do think if one club is having a problem with one specific injury type to their list, they are obliged to work through what the root cause is and work to rectify it. I’d be open to the AFL assisting with resources in doing this.
I think it comes down to being out of the control of the player and the club. Jamie Cripps could try and come back from this ACL for example, if he really wanted to. A club wouldn’t pick him up, but ultimately he’s making the decision himself to retire if he does.

A player getting retired by the panel is completely independent of their wishes and that of their club.
 

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Because the AFL is the one making the call on the player's future, not the player/club.

They do this to take the duty of care call away from the clubs. It’s a shame they have to do this. Perhaps they don’t trust the club to make the right call for the player.

The root cause is getting hit in the head.
If that’s the case then it’s a whole lot of bad luck.
 
I think it comes down to being out of the control of the player and the club. Jamie Cripps could try and come back from this ACL for example, if he really wanted to. A club wouldn’t pick him up, but ultimately he’s making the decision himself to retire if he does.

A player getting retired by the panel is completely independent of their wishes and that of their club.
If West Coast had the final say on Edwards do you really think they’d let him keep playing?
 
If West Coast had the final say on Edwards do you really think they’d let him keep playing?
I am not saying that I think that clubs should be making the decision, I agree that the panel should step in.

It's about the impact on clubs. If Vlastuin got retired tomorrow, and Miller got retired this time in 2027, it would leave a massive hole in your side. I am saying that clubs should have help to deal with losing their players against their and the player's will.

If Edwards, or in the hypothetical Vlastuin or Miller, chose to step away of his own accord, then fair play and the club(s) would have to respect that, but that is very rarely the case.
 
Can my club get compensation for

Koby Stevens
Sean Dempster
Billy Longer
and #1 pick Paddy MCartin
also we had AA squad player retire due to a heart defect ( Dylan Roberton), is that included???

all in 4 years
 
Can my club get compensation for

Koby Stevens
Sean Dempster
Billy Longer
and #1 pick Paddy MCartin
also we had AA squad player retire due to a heart defect ( Dylan Roberton), is that included???

all in 4 years

In reality does it matter what caused an early retirement on medical grounds?

Really need to see all up which clubs have been hit the worse.

Not just for concussions, the treatment and changed protocols on concussions has certainly made a notable impact on numbers of early retirements.
 
Can my club get compensation for

Koby Stevens
Sean Dempster
Billy Longer
and #1 pick Paddy MCartin
also we had AA squad player retire due to a heart defect ( Dylan Roberton), is that included???

all in 4 years
It does bring up interesting points related to age, whether they chose to retire or were forced into it by the independent panel, and the specific reasons for medical retirement.
 
Can't recall off the dome prior to this year, but he has now had 3 in roughly less than 12 weeks
Bombers supporters could correct me but i think Reid has had 8 concussions , I remember reading it somewhere and not sure if its correct but you would think the kid should be really concerned. Pretty sure Vlastuin has had 3 in the last 12-18 months
 

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Bombers supporters could correct me but i think Reid has had 8 concussions , I remember reading it somewhere and not sure if its correct but you would think the kid should be really concerned. Pretty sure Vlastuin has had 3 in the last 12-18 months
I am almost 100% of the belief that he will be retired by the panel, based off nothing but gut feel and the frequency in such a short time.

I feel for the guy, he played incredibly the back half of last season after interning under 2 premiership backs for so long.
 
I am almost 100% of the belief that he will be retired by the panel, based off nothing but gut feel and the frequency in such a short time.

I feel for the guy, he played incredibly the back half of last season after interning under 2 premiership backs for so long.
Shame to see a young kids dreams end
 

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