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Meek, attempting to spoil slightly late causes Lipinski to get subbed off for concussion
Will the MRO double down after Pearce last week, or will they correct course?
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Meek, attempting to spoil slightly late causes Lipinski to get subbed off for concussion
Will the MRO double down after Pearce last week, or will they correct course?
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3 weeks you’d assume just clumsy but that’s the going rate
The fact that it will get 3 weeks demonstrates the game is losing its mind.
1 week at the most.
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1 week at the most.
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It should be 1 week or nothing.
Past precedent says 3 weeks.
But MRO chook raffle means it could be anywhere from 0-4
Past precedent says 3 weeks.
But MRO chook raffle means it could be anywhere from 0-4
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Well if we're punishing the outcome he'll get three.
If we're punishing the act it's a clumsy hit so probably one down to zero.
The fact that it's a binary 3 or 0 based on whether Lipinski has his brain rattled enough shows the system is broken.
Newcombe did a German suplex last week and got nothing because the player was unscathed.
If we're punishing the act it's a clumsy hit so probably one down to zero.
The fact that it's a binary 3 or 0 based on whether Lipinski has his brain rattled enough shows the system is broken.
Newcombe did a German suplex last week and got nothing because the player was unscathed.
That should not even be considered. Meek came into spoil and was just fractionally late.
Clumsy??
It was as blatant a 'make him earn it' act as you'll ever see. There was nothing clumsy about it.
He did precisely what he intended to do.
Made him earn it.
The problem was that even though it was very well executed in the sense that he did in fact hurt him and didn't get him high - his head hit the ground.
Sidebar...At the risk of victim blaming, I really think that AFL players don't really expect to get pollaxed these days - so they don't brace and prepare for it and protect themselves. There is no way Lipinski would have allowed that incident to result in his head hitting the ground if he expected someone to make him earn it.
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Even if he did expect it, at the time of the impact his arms are up for the ball and his feet are off the ground. There's really not much he could do to protect himself when someone as ... bulky as Meek comes in at top speed
That's my point. Putting yourself in that situation is not something you did back in the day - because you expected someone to smash you from behind. And they did.
I notice it a lot in junior footy too, and in the AFLW. It freaks me out.
It's about angles, balance, knowing how to reduce force, and protecting your landing technique.
It's sort of how batsmen play shots these days because they wear helmet and have padding everywhere, compared to 60 years ago when you didn't even wear batting gloves, let alone helmets. Batting technique included self protection by default back then.
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Doubt Meek directly caused any concussion, and there was no meaningful head-high contact. However, this was clearly a late hit whereby he had zero chance of a legitimate spoil. Given that the current penalties around tackling and duty of care, i reckon it gets a week.
Imagine he puts his knee in Christian Petracca's back like that and sends him to hospital and puts him out of the game for three months. Would not be great.
FWIW I agreed with Pearce getting off.
Imagine he puts his knee in Christian Petracca's back like that and sends him to hospital and puts him out of the game for three months. Would not be great.
FWIW I agreed with Pearce getting off.
I watched this a couple of times this morning, as I couldn't get past how Lipinski allowed himself to face plant into the turf. It didn't make sense that he didn't protect himself.
And my conclusion is that Meek DID make high contact, which momentarily stunned Lipinski enough to not be able to protect himself. He basically went prone for a second and made no attempt to brace himself or use his arms to protect himself from impact on the ground.
If he had senses with him, that left arm would have instinctively stuck out to soften his landing. But it didn't..it just stayed motionless underneath him.
How ?
Lipinski has his arms up to take the mark and Meek hits him in the head, he has no chance to protect himself
Remember when Lobb hit Cox in the face while attempting to spoil"and got nothing for it? It was also slightly late.
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Haha, 2 months is a long time in football,
Remember when Lobb hit Cox in the face while attempting to spoil"and got nothing for it? It was also slightly late.
MATCH REVIEW: Lobb learns fate for Magpie strike
The match review findings for Friday night's game between Footscray and Collingwood are in
What you miss from that is that Lobb's fist actually did come off the ball before deflecting to the face of Cox
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no it didnt.
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HAWTHORN ruck Lloyd Meek has escaped suspension for his big hit on Patrick Lipinski in the Hawks' loss to Collingwood on Friday night.
Meek arrived late and crashed into Lipinski, who was about to mark, during the third quarter of Hawthorn's 51-point loss at the MCG.
Lipinski kicked a major from the goalsquare but was then substituted due to concussion.
The Match Review Officer said Meek "made a genuine attempt to spoil the ball, that his actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances and that he took reasonable care to avoid making forceful high contact to Lipinski in the marking contest".
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You get the feeling that had there not been an overturned decision very recently then he would have got the standard 3 weeks. Or maybe I'm just being cynical
Meek arrived late and crashed into Lipinski, who was about to mark, during the third quarter of Hawthorn's 51-point loss at the MCG.
Lipinski kicked a major from the goalsquare but was then substituted due to concussion.
The Match Review Officer said Meek "made a genuine attempt to spoil the ball, that his actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances and that he took reasonable care to avoid making forceful high contact to Lipinski in the marking contest".
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You get the feeling that had there not been an overturned decision very recently then he would have got the standard 3 weeks. Or maybe I'm just being cynical
Interesting finding.
Whilst I agree he took reasonable care to avoid forceful high contact - he clearly did his best to ensure he did make forceful body contact. And it was the forceful body contact that ultimately caused a concussion.
Given it was late, it's not a stretch to argue that it wasn't reasonable at all
its in line with the Lobb decision. If lobb had got weeks then meek should get weeks. but neither got weeks for similar acts.
it was a fraction of a second late. look at the time stamp on the replay.
Yeah, agree. But it was 'officially' late.
