Mega Multi Thread

[danielz_23]

Parlays, Accumulators, Multiples... POST THEM HERE

After a poor result over the spring carnival and inspired by news of a big multi-bet win in recent weeks (read below) I am looking to throw up a few big multi bets for fun.

bet365 customer Cory K, from Canada, recently benefited from this great offer when he placed a $100 12-fold on American Football, which won him $199,306. Thanks to our 50% Parlay Bonus, he received a massive $99,603 on top of his original winnings!

Personally I won't be putting $100 on a 12-legger since the odds are probably the equivalent of winning Tattslotto but we'll throw a few small goes at this

With a wealth of sports currently in season it shouldn't be hard to find yourself a dozen or so legs that you like, "in season" sports include:

NFL Football
NCAA Football
NBA Basketball
English Premier League
... and if you're inclined, A-League and NBL... to name a "few"

$5 on 14-legs (at 1.90 each) is worth about $40,000... that sure beats "Back 10 $2.00 winners, win 20,000." or "Back 30 1.20 winners receive over $2000"

My first attempt to follow...

 

[danielz_23]

1. (NCAA) Utah -5.5 v Notre Dame L 3-28
2. (NCAA) Stanford -4.5 v Arizona State W 17-13
3. (NCAA) Virginia Tech -3.5 v North Carolina W 26-10
4. (NCAA) Iowa -10 v Northwestern L 17-21
5. (NCAA) Oklahoma State -5 v Texas W 33-16
6. (NBA) Orlando -6 W 91-90
7. (NBA) Utah -1.5 W 96-95
8. (NFL) Tennessee -1 L 17-29
9. (NFL) Detroit L 12-14
10. (NFL) Houston +1.5 L 24-31
11. (NFL) Pittsburgh -4.5 L 26-39
12. (NFL) Denver-Kansas City over 43 78 Total Points

$2,602.71 (per $1) LOSER

Shocking effort but lose the same as if I went 11/12

 

[Marklar_33]

Where do you find is the best place to Multi, dz23?

 

[The_Doctor]

NFL Multi

Super Line & Total Double - Pittsburgh +1.5 & Under 51.5 @ 1.77
Super Line & Total Double - Dallas +20.5 & Under 52.5 @ 1.91
Super Line & Total Double - Denver +7.5 & Under 51.5 @ 1.77
Super Line & Total Double - Chicago +6.5 & Under 46.5 @ 1.87
Super Line & Total Double - Miami +7.5 & Over 35.5 @ 1.73

Combinded Odds: $19.36


Also anchored these 5 with,

Gael Monfils vs Robin Soderling - Match Betting - Gael Monfils @ 2.05
Odds: $39.68
&
Abu Dhabi Formula 1 Grand Prix - Podium Finish - Jenson Button [McL] @ 3.25
Odds: $62.91

Then linked all 7 in a multi for odds of $128.97

Just a bit of fun but still pretty confident in most selections

 

[d0gs]

Can someone briefly explain the Parlay Formula for me? I have little understanding of it.
Cheers

 

[carn tigez]

Can someone briefly explain the Parlay Formula for me? I have little understanding of it.
Cheers

The basic one is say you put a parlay on 3 events paying $3, $4 and $5.

If the bet is $1, the way it works is you put $1 on the first event, winning $3. Then that $3 all goes onto the second event, so you have a $3 bet at odds of $4. Then if that wins, the $12 won all goes onto the third event, paying $5. So your profit would be $60. But if any of the 3 lose, you lose. This is used for horse racing as otherwise it would just be a multi bet.

This is the one I know and use, I'm not sure on the other variations you can get though.

 

[jayjones1]

multis are waste of time unless you only put in a few legs

 

[iluvparis]

The basic one is say you put a parlay on 3 events paying $3, $4 and $5.

If the bet is $1, the way it works is you put $1 on the first event, winning $3. Then that $3 all goes onto the second event, so you have a $3 bet at odds of $4. Then if that wins, the $12 won all goes onto the third event, paying $5. So your profit would be $60. But if any of the 3 lose, you lose. This is used for horse racing as otherwise it would just be a multi bet.

This is the one I know and use, I'm not sure on the other variations you can get though.

That is actually an all-up.

A parlay includes that all-up but also all possible combination of doubles:
$3 and $4
$3 and $5
$4 and $5

so if two of the three legs get up you still get something back.

The cost for $1 is $4 though.

 

[carn tigez]

That is actually an all-up.

A parlay includes that all-up but also all possible combination of doubles:
$3 and $4
$3 and $5
$4 and $5

so if two of the three legs get up you still get something back.

The cost for $1 is $4 though.

Ahk, yeah I knew there were variations like that you just mentioned, but not sure on specifics. What happens if there are 5 legs?

 

[iluvparis]

With you get:
- a 5 leg all up
- all possible combiantion of 4 leg bets
- all possible combiantion of 3 leg bets
- all possible combiantion of 2 leg bets

Can't remember off the top of my head how much it costs for $1

 

[carn tigez]

With you get:
- a 5 leg all up
- all possible combiantion of 4 leg bets
- all possible combiantion of 3 leg bets
- all possible combiantion of 2 leg bets

Can't remember off the top of my head how much it costs for $1

Ahk, got it now. Cheers. TAB have a few different options for parlays, I assume you get to choose whether to only have combos of 4 and 5 legs, or 3,4 and 5, etc.

 

[iluvparis]

Correct - the 'Formula' number is the number of legs you want to activate.

i.e. Formula 4 means you take all of the 4 leg combos.

 

[carn tigez]

Correct - the 'Formula' number is the number of legs you want to activate.

i.e. Formula 4 means you take all of the 4 leg combos.

Ah ok, cheers.

 

[danielz_23]

I would say it also depends on the country you are in... I threw in accummulators because you hear that too... and a parlay only paying the all-up is still perhaps referred to as a parlay in many places. Irrelevant so long as you know what your doing

How did you go Doc? On first glance Pittsburgh looked to be your only loss??

multis are waste of time unless you only put in a few legs

Depends on your perspective doesnt it.

 

[twarby]

i doubt you would have a strikerate of over 60% longterm with those sort of bets, the moment you add 1 leg to a bet, that winning % will drop to under 40%. and will continue to drop for each leg you do.

multis are a waste of time long term unless you bet on the brownlow, where your strikerate can easily be 90%+ and the odds are alot greater.

 

[Sasquatch]

i doubt you would have a strikerate of over 60% longterm with those sort of bets, the moment you add 1 leg to a bet, that winning % will drop to under 40%. and will continue to drop for each leg you do.

multis are a waste of time long term unless you bet on the brownlow, where your strikerate can easily be 90%+ and the odds are alot greater.

This.

I highly doubt people who solely do multis have a strikerate of more than 20%.

I know personally I am successful without doing multis.

But each to their own I guess.

 

[danielz_23]

This.

I highly doubt people who solely do multis have a strikerate of more than 20%.

I know personally I am successful without doing multis.

But each to their own I guess.

Are u guys serious or just slept through basic math...?

I'm not saying this is a proven path to riches (and if u know one let me know) but it is a given your strike rate would be lower with a multiple bet!

If you win 20% of your multi bets at 5.7/1 odds you'll still be at the same place if you win 60% single 1.90 bets.

 

[Sasquatch]

Forget percentages.

What we are trying to say is people who always put on multi bets will never make money. In fact, they will lose it.

Keep a record of your multi bets. Overtime you will see that you are losing and not winning. That's what we're trying to get across.

But I'm not trying to tell you how to gamble. All we're pointing out is that it is very very rare and unlikely that you would succeed doing things this way.

But at the end of the day what you do is up to you.

 

[twarby]

$5 on 14-legs (at 1.90 each) is worth about $40,000... that sure beats "Back 10 $2.00 winners, win 20,000." or "Back 30 1.20 winners receive over $2000"

My first attempt to follow...[/COLOR]

after your 5th failed multi, you would have already spent more than us attempting that challenge.

would much rather back 10 $2.00 winners in a row, than fluke a 14leg
like i said..bet on the brownlow if you want a multi.

8 leggers @ 1000/1 on 8 favourites is where its at

 

[danielz_23]

after your 5th failed multi, you would have already spent more than us attempting that challenge.

would much rather back 10 $2.00 winners in a row, than fluke a 14leg
like i said..bet on the brownlow if you want a multi.

8 leggers @ 1000/1 on 8 favourites is where its at

To be honest, how is it any different?

Placing your 10 selections at the one time and collecting one massive return is the same as placing each individual bet one at a time and reloading the winnings into the next...?

seriously correct me if I'm wrong...! what am I missing...

 

[twarby]

To be honest, how is it any different?

Placing your 10 selections at the one time and collecting one massive return is the same as placing each individual bet one at a time and reloading the winnings into the next...?

seriously correct me if I'm wrong...! what am I missing...

its no different at all. either way you win 20k..
its just my opinion on the matter..

sorry to bombard the thread, was mainly commenting on jayjones original post on multis.
keep us updated with your multis

 

[danielz_23]

its no different at all. either way you win 20k..
its just my opinion on the matter..

sorry to bombard the thread, was mainly commenting on jayjones original post on multis.
keep us updated with your multis

No need to apologise - I think it is a worthwhile discussion. Sets the thread up for the big wins to come

There is generally a negative view towards multiple bets (evident by Sasquatch, jayjones1 and yourself feeling the needing to voice them)... but I don't really have any prejudice against them.

Its low risk (outlay) with the possibility of high returns... not everyone is a hardened punter willing to place 1000 bets in a year and grind a 10% profit. I'm happy to work for a living and place 20 multis... maybe I hit one and end up in the same place... maybe I don't but can rest easy knowing I lost only $100 and not $1000... its an alternative and I dont think there is a right or wrong as some feel.

I'd say if your posting on here now your not a professional punter making big sweeping profits - because I'm sure there is a dog race on right now (or better places to be spending your time on research and insightful discussion)

* that isn't directed at you, just other big noting posters who float around

 

[danielz_23]

Forget percentages.

What we are trying to say is people who always put on multi bets will never make money. In fact, they will lose it.

Keep a record of your multi bets. Overtime you will see that you are losing and not winning. That's what we're trying to get across.

But I'm not trying to tell you how to gamble. All we're pointing out is that it is very very rare and unlikely that you would succeed doing things this way.

But at the end of the day what you do is up to you.

I'm not taking offense to it... just questioning the statement. It lacks any substantial logic.

Many people can record any old bets and they will be losing so that really isn't saying a lot. Some win, some lose... more often lose because I don't see a lot of broke bookies around. Although I do hear about a lot of winning punters.

I think anyone can win with good & lucky selections... if they are in a multi or single bets... doubles, quadrellas, place bets... at the end of the day it is all relative to the odds and risk, they are just twisted in different ways. Luck helps in every form and you can obviously improve your chances of success with measured approaches but to say if you bet multi's you will lose is a pretty generic and ignorant statement.

You cant forget the percentages - it is vital to measuring what we are talking about...

A 5-leg (1.90) = 24.76... so break-even is is 1 collect out of 24 bets... 4%... and more so you could get 5 out of 120 total selections correct and still break-even. Sure it is not realistic, but it is possible none the less. When you look at a less extreme view it is quite possible to be successful.

 

[twarby]

dont you worry sky racing is on

i think when everyone began betting for the first time, they would most likely have done multis as the their bets, and very rarely just done straight bets @ 1.90.

ive learnt to cut them out pretty much all together.. and since then ive finally made progress and are seeing consitent results.


whatever you feel makes you money though is the way to bet

 

[Sasquatch]

Yeah. I'll leave this thread alone. Just wanted to share my thoughts on multis. Sorry if I have derailed it. Good luck with it. Hope you win!