Women's Footy Melbourne captain Daisy Pearce slams suggested changes to the AFLW fixture as ‘gimmicky’

Mar 16, 2007
13,851
11,711
Showers Stand
AFL Club
Essendon
The AFL are burdened with the task to make this competition more than just a marketing ploy, something that could have the potential to be self-sufficient in the future. If it can’t achieve that then it will always be a gimmick.
 

its free real estate

it's free real estate
Jul 30, 2018
11,782
15,176
AFL Club
Fremantle
The AFL are burdened with the task to make this competition more than just a marketing ploy, something that could have the potential to be self-sufficient in the future. If it can’t achieve that then it will always be a gimmick.
The issue is men's AFL competition is a marketing ploy, but it has 120 years of history and passion in it to cover the fact the AFL has * all idea about what it is doing with its product.

AFLW doesn't and their inept screwups are laid bare.

We have a great sport administered by clowns and parasites.
 

Ron The Bear

Up yer arse, AFL
30k Posts 10k Posts
Jul 4, 2006
35,845
36,723
Melbourne
AFL Club
Richmond
Who does Daisy Pearce propose should pay for the additional television coverage and other costs incurred by more matches?

Think the problem is rather that there are too many teams for the available talent pool. There's also the issue of more women wanting to be paid more money. The players are in too much of a hurry.
 
Jul 16, 2007
13,919
11,209
Melbourne
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Other Teams
MUFC, Storm, Rebels
I said this when they announced the details of season 1, the AFL were half arsing the competition.

They went overdrive in the marketing of it, but it wasn't a proper league. Felt like a carnival more than anything.

Season 3, if it is confirmed to be reduced rounds, only confirms the half arsing of the league.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
 
Do you really reckon the girls are doing it for the money?

Pays peanuts.

That poster obviously didn't bother to read Daisy's comments. As she pointed out, a shorter season doesn't mean you can just put your feet up:

“Players are training off their own back — so we’re not contracted at the moment — a lot of people are training so they can get to the line and be as elite and professional as they can.”

“We’re signed up as contracted players but they don’t kick in until November, so the contracts run from November to April.

“And outside of that, you’re an unpaid, uncontracted player. But you don’t just get to November and flick the switch that ‘oh, now I’m a professional athlete.’”
 

Ron The Bear

Up yer arse, AFL
30k Posts 10k Posts
Jul 4, 2006
35,845
36,723
Melbourne
AFL Club
Richmond
Don't televise every game. Problem solved.

OK, so they still need additional grounds, umpires, gatepeople, security, statisticians and probably a heap of others at every game. They all want to be paid, and the costs aren't covered by the gate, yet.
 
Aug 27, 2014
38,196
41,193
spacetime
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
there are no other teams worthy
Sadly for Daisy her main comp is gimmicky based on Gil's latest rant.
Clearly he sees the VFLW as a real home and away season and this is just a television product in quiet period for AFL to run a glorified women's tournament rather than full season. I feel for her and puts her heart and soul into it thinking it was going to be the real thing and now finds out Gil is not really giving players like her what they dreamed they were getting.
 

Hungdaddy

Senior List
Aug 13, 2011
171
240
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Not too long ago John McEnroe put forward an opinion stating that Serena Williams would be ranked 700ish if she was a he, and on the mens tour.
It's interesting when you think about it, because women's tennis has undergone similar fights recently in relation to getting equal pay, despite playing 3 sets, not 5.

To summarise: A former ex elite tennis player, has observed that the best women's tennis player, perhaps ever, would be ranked 700th if she was playing among the men. That's quite a vast difference in skill level and ability, and from a layman's perspective, I can't see why that level of difference wouldn't also be a reasonable expectation in other sports, like AFL. And given, also, that it's very unlikely, that the women of the AFLW have trained for the same time as those men in the AFL who have often played since under 10's (n.b professional men's and women's tennis players would pick up a racket when they're kids), it's likely that the top AFL woman would probably be ranked far less than 700 if pitched against men in AFL, VFL, WAFL etc.

I'll reiterate, all of that is based on John McEnroe's opinion - however - shouldn't the footballing community in Australia aim to promote a more realistic approach with such stark realities of skill and ability differential in mind?

The whole concept seems to have extended far beyond sporting equality and seems to exist merely as a political mouthpiece for the AFL to espouse it's liberal values, all the while creating an unfair level of cash injection into a code that hasn't earned it while AFL mad states that continue to develop A-grade footballers, such as Tassie and N.T continue to get shafted.
 
Jun 6, 2016
19,309
12,031
Perth
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Pines Football Club
Which should be applauded, but the expectation that the product will ever sit on the same pedestal as the men's product is very naive.

Don't think anyone is expecting that, it may have been stated by someone somewhere but you'd the question the soundness of mind of those who truly believe it would ever be on par with the AFL.
 
Dec 18, 2007
10,972
6,789
Counting premiership cups
AFL Club
Essendon
Other Teams
Non that play Essendon
OK, so they still need additional grounds, umpires, gatepeople, security, statisticians and probably a heap of others at every game. They all want to be paid, and the costs aren't covered by the gate, yet.

If they played as curtain raisers to the AFL then the cost would be greatly reduced as supporters would in effect be getting two games of footy for the price of one therefore making memberships better value.
 

Benny78

Cancelled
BeanCoiNFT Investor
Apr 4, 2016
8,847
7,061
Australia
AFL Club
Geelong
Other Teams
Ken Hinkley
Surely the premier competition for womens football in this country deserves a complete home and away season.

It sure does

If this means taking even more money out of grass roots development pathways, or charging more for punters to access the mens game, then this is what must be done.

Nope. No freaking way! Get rid of AFLW all-together before we do that.
 
New clubs never should have been admitted if the competition wasn’t viable enough to support each team travelling to play each other team at least once.

Daisy’s right, it’s a joke for them to propose such a ridiculous fixture. Fewer teams and allowing the competition to gain some traction in its existing form was the logical way to go about it.

They shouldn't have aligned the womens teams with the mens, because as soon as they did that they pretty much rapid expansion a certainty.
 
Aug 4, 2003
22,984
23,443
WA
AFL Club
West Coast
Pretty sure the FIFA World Cup reference will just be a precursor for an eventual Group Stage/Knock Out format for the Women’s league.

Which could work I guess?..

They clearly have about an 8 week window to work with here.
 
Back