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Racing Melbourne Cup 2018 and all Cup Day discussion.(Posting of bets after the race will be carded)

Discussion in 'Punting Board' started by Viva la Mattner, May 23, 2018.

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The winner is.....

Poll closed Nov 6, 2018.
  1. 1.Best Solution(6) $13

    5.4%
  2. 2.The Cliffsofmoher(9) $15

    3.8%
  3. 3.Magic Circle(17) $10

    15.4%
  4. 4.Chestnut Coat(4) $34

    3.8%
  5. 5.Muntahaa(13) $10

    9.2%
  6. 6.Sound Check(16) $34

    3.1%
  7. 7.Who Shot The Barman(18) $67

    0.8%
  8. 8.Ace High(22) $51

    0.8%
  9. 9.Marmelo(10) $15

    6.2%
  10. 10.Avilius(11) $12

    8.5%
  11. 11.Yucatan(23) $4.80

    14.6%
  12. 12.Auvray(1) $67

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. 13.Finche(15) $21

    4.6%
  14. 14.Red Cardinal (5) $67

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. 15.Vengeur Masque(2) $67

    0.8%
  16. 16.Ventura Storm(7) $21

    1.5%
  17. 17.A Prince Of Arran(20) $17

    4.6%
  18. 18.Nakeeta(3) $81 19.Sir Charles Road(14) $81 20.Zacada(24) $151

    0.8%
  19. 21.Runaway(12) $34

    0.8%
  20. 22.Youngstar(8) $15

    5.4%
  21. 23.Cross Counter(19) $11

    6.9%
  22. 24.Rostropovich(21) $26

    3.1%
  1. Turnover

    Turnover Team Captain

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    Onya bike then.
     
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  2. smasha

    smasha Premium Platinum

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    Been on that bike for a long time.
    Many more will join.
     
  3. Turnover

    Turnover Team Captain

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    Ok. Good for you and them.
     
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  4. FallingLiefs

    FallingLiefs Brownlow Medallist

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    Well there’s the problem like every other person, you’ve been told what happens. Nothing to back it up with any concrete facts about how it actually works.

    Take no interest in it for 364 days and then MC rolls around and say “tut tut you shouldn’t do that” before waiting to next year to even think about it again.
     
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  5. Jugada

    Jugada Norm Smith Medallist

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    Racehorses would get looked after better than most other animals on the planet. The 4min youtube video you watched on what happens to horses probably made you less informed than you were to begin with
     
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    FallingLiefs Brownlow Medallist

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    i am looking forward to the "profilers horse" in 5 years.

    NH 3yo, hasn't started for a month plus, first start in Aus, Official Rating 112-116.

    can't do anything about it unless carpenter starts increasing them purely off this basis.

    that said. best horse won so it may not be a problem.
     
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  7. iluvparis

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    I expect 40-50k to see the mighty Royal Request go around!
     
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    FallingLiefs Brownlow Medallist

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    am not looking forward to the complete reverse on the tote though. goodbye hard overs of $16 rekindling $12 Cross Counter.
     
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    Yup

    Might need to switch to the Finche types - first/second up from overseas but running for a local trainer.
     
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  10. GreyCrow

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    Yep smashed my profile for sure. I do think it is changing and time to re-assess a lot of myths
     
  11. FallingLiefs

    FallingLiefs Brownlow Medallist

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    in 50 years profiling may work, probably not but it may. 50 years ago it probably worked too. we are in a complete transition stage though. the goal should always to predict future trends not current ones. NH 3yo will likely be a good one but might be unders as early as next year.
     

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  12. GreyCrow

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    Maybe the Ebor then ;)


    :D
     
  13. iluvparis

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    No need to start panicking ;)
     
  14. FallingLiefs

    FallingLiefs Brownlow Medallist

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    yeah i'm pretty confident profiling won't involve big handicap winners winning again in a big handicap.
     
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  15. Jack Gun Cyril Stun

    Jack Gun Cyril Stun All Australian

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    Obviously an exercise bike
     
  16. HeathComeBack

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    Just cos 2 lightly raced 4yos won in consecutive years doesn't mean its a trend. After all Marmelo was a hardened stayer and almost won. Take away the wet track this year and we might have had a totally different result.
     
  17. Ron The Bear

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    What made the takeover of the internationals tolerable was being able to put a line through those without a lead-up here. That's out the window after the past two runnings.

    Didn't fancy the winner, but disappointed that Avilius was taken out by the dead horse after Rostropovich backed up the Cox Plate form with a solid 5th.
     
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    Rostro looked a much better staying prospect than Avi though
     
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    Maybe. I've done OK backing certain horses to get the trip first time. We'll probably never know, now.
     
  20. Jugada

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    The worst thing about Cliffs breaking down is all these Avilius backers giving themselves an excuse for getting beat 70 lengths
     
  21. TheJanuaryMan

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    Congratulations to the connections of Rostropovich. They now know they have a horse that will get 4000m with ease. It ran it strongly yesterday.
    Jockey Wayne Lordon said "he ran very well". Sure did. Perhaps he was expecting a 6v4v3v2v1 protest or something.
     
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    Wasn’t far off third the first two gapped the field. Thought it was a super run.
     
  23. smasha

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    I’m not gonna hate on those who like horse racing and I know the horses get looked after when in the racing game but I just hope there is a duty of care for horses who retire especially the ones who finish last.

    Always feel sorry for those horses who finish last.
     
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    I hope you are right,magnificent beasts who should be treated the same way in retirement.
     
  25. Hamingja

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    The unders argument based off the fixed odds was why I went around it for the win this year :p

    For those that like back fitting data for shits n gigs I decided to add the dosage indicators to my spreadsheet.

    The top 6 in racebook order - Magic Circle, Marmelo, Yucatan, Finche, A Prince of Arran, Cross Counter.

    Solid year for the DI ;)
     
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