Racing Melbourne Cup Day 2019 (after the results posting of bets will get a ban)

[come on oliver]

10’s Melbourne Cup field

 

[iluvparis]

Gator

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[FFB1]

Cross Counter won the Gordon Stakes last year, keen to see how Spanish Mission goes tonight against O’brien.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Cross Counter won the Gordon Stakes last year, keen to see how Spanish Mission goes tonight against O’brien.

Hopefully runs well but not too well to crunch it’s price in
Still unknown to most punters let’s keep it that way

 

[TBellicious]

Cross Counter won the Gordon Stakes last year, keen to see how Spanish Mission goes tonight against O’brien.

Should have won for mine

 

[plays tall 1]

Nice run Spanish Mission. Looked like he didn’t get clear till about the 200m mark, then took a while to balance up. Ran on strongly. Gave the winner weight. Beat the winner comprehensively last start.

 

[iluvparis]

Should have won for mine

Yup - almost perfect (except I backed it last night). Wins that on a flat track I think but in missing out last night hopefully gets a kilo less

 

[FFB1]

Yup - almost perfect (except I backed it last night). Wins that on a flat track I think but in missing out last night hopefully gets a kilo less

Owner wants to win the cup, convincing the trainer to bring him down is an issue (and not change his mind).

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Yup - almost perfect (except I backed it last night). Wins that on a flat track I think but in missing out last night hopefully gets a kilo less

Have requested odds with Ladbrokes
Have a boost available so hoping they put something juicy up and will snap it up

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Didn’t realise that Rostropovich had transferred to Hayes x2 and Tabernig

Chances?
Ran ok last year

 

[FFB1]

Have requested odds with Ladbrokes
Have a boost available so hoping they put something juicy up and will snap it up

Good luck with that - e.g. they’ve got Mugatoo $41, it’s ten times the price on betfair. 365/sportsbet/BetEasy/ have Spanish $26 - reckon you’re more than likely not going to get that price when they put it up. I got $51 on the fair (sorry Paris..), still $40 available there. Nice odds if it comes, probably those to actually come.

Let’s hope it comes. Donation otherwise.

 

[FFB1]

Didn’t realise that Rostropovich had transferred to Hayes x2 and Tabernig

Chances?
Ran ok last year

Goes against my ‘never back something that couldn’t win it previously’, so it’s a no from me

 

[iluvparis]

Didn’t realise that Rostropovich had transferred to Hayes x2 and Tabernig

Chances?
Ran ok last year

Change of trainer has to be worth about 10-15 lengths...on the negative side

If you don't win it the first time...etc etc

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Change of trainer has to be worth about 10-15 lengths...on the negative side

If you don't win it the first time...etc etc

Was my thoughts too
H,H&T not the best choice for staying types these days...

Fiorente only one really who bucked that trend

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

Didn’t realise that Rostropovich had transferred to Hayes x2 and Tabernig

Chances?
Ran ok last year

Was ridden terribly last year too, wouldn't rule it out - but yes, goes against the "doesn't win it first time, then..." philosophy.

 

[TBellicious]

Mirage Dancer on its way, will do Caulfield Cup as well after being sold to Aus connections

 

[HeathySure]

Mirage Dancer on its way, will do Caulfield Cup as well after being sold to Aus connections

Im always wary of these horses "being sold to Australian connections". To me its like, there's a sucker born every minute. Besides Lloyds horses ( and he has the cash to buy the good ones) and Fiorente has there been any semi decent one?

 

[FallingLiefs]

Im always wary of these horses "being sold to Australian connections". To me its like, there's a sucker born every minute. Besides Lloyds horses ( and he has the cash to buy the good ones) and Fiorente has there been any semi decent one?

the GOAT won back in 2014 after being sold to aus connections.

 

[HeathySure]

the GOAT won back in 2014 after being sold to aus connections.

before or after?

 

[iluvparis]

It's the training not the ownership that matters - this one sounds like it will be here more than early enough for Trent and Natalie to butcher it.

Basically if they start here in Australia for a local trainer before either Cup they normally don't go any good.

 

[FFB1]

Mirage Dancer on its way, will do Caulfield Cup as well after being sold to Aus connections

Cox Plate appears to be the main aim (reiterating appears). More a CC horse you’d think.

 

[FallingLiefs]

It's the training not the ownership that matters - this one sounds like it will be here more than early enough for Trent and Natalie to butcher it.

Basically if they start here in Australia for a local trainer before either Cup they normally don't go any good.

Zzzzzz profiling.

shoot me now.

bring back the old "they can't win it without a start here first"

 

[iluvparis]

Zzzzzz profiling.

shoot me now.

bring back the old "they can't win it without a start here first"

By all means feel free to keep backing imported stayers at poison unders that go backwards 15 lengths when switched from their trainers then

If you aren't using profiling when it comes to the major Cups you are just burning money - you see it on here every year time and time again.

 

[FallingLiefs]

By all means feel free to keep backing imported stayers at poison unders that go backwards 15 lengths when switched from their trainers then

If you aren't using profiling when it comes to the major Cups you are just burning money - you see it on here every year time and time again.

“The profile” changes every year or few. It’s better to find the next profile than the last one.

 

[FallingLiefs]

Even NH 3yos will have increased weight this year for all we know, that could stop that profile.