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Hi all, first time posting on this board. Hopefully this thread is okay - I scrolled for a while and didn't see anything related and I know this isn't the most active board.

I'm a big fan of true crime and have an interest in Australian organised crime. Unfortunately, media about it is often highly sensationalised (7 and 9 view it as a sort of soap opera, and Underbelly is trashy), and books written about it are often poorly written and include a lot of unsubstantiated gossip.

Something I find annoying is the lack of detail available for the sticky-beaks like myself about specific locations. If you go to any forum about the NYC mob you can find exact addresses for the old houses of people like Paul Castellano, etc. But when it comes to Aus crime, it's sparse and requires a fair bit of detective work to match pics in news articles to Google Street View.

For example, everyone knows Alphonse Gangitano was killed in his Templestowe house. Does anyone know exactly where in Templestowe? Back in 1978, Les Kane was killed in his Wantirna unit - does anyone know where this unit was?

Would love if anyone has any details along these lines.

Plus general discussion on the Melbourne Gangland stuff too I guess.

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Once I was with my mother coming back from a Specialists appointment in Glenroy and were going through Strathmore, near Bulla Rd., through a slip road near the shops...suddenly I had to yell "stop !! stop!!" my mother braked heavily at the unseen zebra as a bloke was crossing...he flinched, just a little... it was Carl Williams, carrying what looked like some meat from the butchers. :oops:
 
MauroFogheri said:
Once I was with my mother coming back from a Specialists appointment in Glenroy and were going through Strathmore, near Bulla Rd., through a slip road near the shops...suddenly I had to yell "stop !! stop!!" my mother braked heavily at the unseen zebra as a bloke was crossing...he flinched, just a little... it was Carl Williams, carrying what looked like some meat from the butchers. :oops:
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Doubt Carl would be strong enough to carry Roberta.
 
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Stephenson St Richmond was the location of the house where the infamous Dennis Allen committed murders
 
_Mike_ said:
Stephenson St Richmond was the location of the house where the infamous Dennis Allen committed murders
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It lends itself to that as it is very secluded. Rumour has it the West Indies cricket team went though one of Kath Pettingills knock shops in that street. There are other "half" streets like that (houses one side, open on the other) where I know shenanigans have taken place - Cross St, West Footscray for one, Brentwood Drive Avondale Heights.
 

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MauroFogheri said:
Once I was with my mother coming back from a Specialists appointment in Glenroy and were going through Strathmore, near Bulla Rd., through a slip road near the shops...suddenly I had to yell "stop !! stop!!" my mother braked heavily at the unseen zebra as a bloke was crossing...he flinched, just a little... it was Carl Williams, carrying what looked like some meat from the butchers. :oops:
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Not crime related, but years ago took a girl home one night (well, she took me to hers on Bulla Road) and I instantly recognised the house next door as being the one Graham Kennedy walked out of in his role as Ted Parker in the movie 'The Club'.
Had me in stitches for hours, albeit she never saw the film and never got my interest.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
This is Mark Moran’s house, where he met his demise in 2000 - Carl Williams was outside waiting for him and shot him dead.

Really nice place, though it has been extensively renovated in the 20-odd years since, not sure what it was like at the time.

https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-vic-aberfeldie-124212246
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Great house, not such a fan of the all-paved all-dark coloured 'garden'. Very harsh, must be unbearable in summer.

Bunk Moreland said:
And this one is Graham Kinniburgh’s house, where he was shot dead by hitmen in 2003. Another really nice place with a grisly past.

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Love this one, looks like a lovely home all round.
 
craffles said:
NSW thread pls
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Article in The Aus Magazine this weekend doesnt limit itself, it Aus wide, with international links:

Mob rule: Calabrian mafia’s reign of terror in Australia​

The ’Ndrangheta mafia organisation has a long and bloody history in Australia. Can a federal police investigation finally make a dent in it?'


'A hundred years ago, the ship Re d’Italia (King of Italy) arrived in Australia from Genoa with about 1000 mainly Italian migrants. Landing in Fremantle on December 18, 1922, the ship would go on to Port Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. In the passenger lists held at the National Archives most are described as farmers or labourers, although the Re d’Italia also brought tailors, “housewives” and some whose occupation was listed simply as “commerce”. Among those disembarking to begin a new life in Australia were three men – Domenico Antonio Strano, Antonio “The Toad” Barbaro and a third whose name remains uncertain – with strong links to the ‘Ndrangheta or “Honoured Society” in Calabria.

The three set about founding ‘Ndrangheta units – locali – in Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney. Strano was already a feared standover man when he moved from Sydney to north Queensland in the mid-1920s, his presence there coinciding with a decade-long reign of terror conducted by so-called “Black Hand” gangs to extort money from Italian canegrowers.'

The article goes through 'crime by crime' to the modern day:
'A second wave of Calabrian immigration took place in the 1950s after a catastrophic flood in the town of Platì, a ‘Ndrangheta stronghold. According to Dr Anna Sergi, professor of criminology at the University of Essex and an expert on Italian organised crime, the flood in Calabria delivered an “economic boom” for the ‘Ndrangheta in Australia.'

'In 2007, the ‘Ndrangheta demonstrated its “simple criminal entrepreneurism” by importing 4.4 tonnes of ecstasy tablets into Port Melbourne in a shipment of canned Italian tomatoes. The bust by customs and AFP officers prompted one of the AFP’s biggest ever criminal investigations. Electronic intercepts and surveillance led police to Pasquale Barbaro, the son of Francesco “Little Trees” Barbaro, who had been identified by the Woodward Royal Commission as a money launderer and drug trafficker. Barbaro, the gang’s ringleader and its main contact with ‘Ndrangheta bosses in Calabria, was sentenced to life in jail after pleading guilty. More than 30 gang members were eventually convicted and jailed for a total of nearly 300 years.'

Several alleged ‘Ndrangheta members were among those arrested last year in Operation Ironside, the Australian arm of an international sting designed to catch organised criminals using the AN0M phone encryption app. According to the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission, more than 700 warrants were executed and 311 people charged. More than 6.3 tonnes of illicit drugs and 139 weapons were seized, together with $50 million in suspected proceeds of crime. Those arrested included lawyers, accountants, baggage handlers, cargo controllers and other officials able to help organised criminals in the distribution of drugs and the laundering of profits.

Last month, on the anniversary of the first AN0M arrests, the AFP revealed it was investigating 51 Italian organised crime clans, of which 14 were confirmed as ‘Ndrangheta. According to the AFP’s Assistant Commissioner Crime Command, Nigel Ryan, law enforcement had charged a number of ‘Ndrangheta members, “some of whom were taking their orders from bosses in Calabria”.'

Well worth reading the article behind the paywall.
 
Kwality said:
Article in The Aus Magazine this weekend doesnt limit itself, it Aus wide, with international links:

Mob rule: Calabrian mafia’s reign of terror in Australia​

The ’Ndrangheta mafia organisation has a long and bloody history in Australia. Can a federal police investigation finally make a dent in it?'


'A hundred years ago, the ship Re d’Italia (King of Italy) arrived in Australia from Genoa with about 1000 mainly Italian migrants. Landing in Fremantle on December 18, 1922, the ship would go on to Port Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. In the passenger lists held at the National Archives most are described as farmers or labourers, although the Re d’Italia also brought tailors, “housewives” and some whose occupation was listed simply as “commerce”. Among those disembarking to begin a new life in Australia were three men – Domenico Antonio Strano, Antonio “The Toad” Barbaro and a third whose name remains uncertain – with strong links to the ‘Ndrangheta or “Honoured Society” in Calabria.

The three set about founding ‘Ndrangheta units – locali – in Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney. Strano was already a feared standover man when he moved from Sydney to north Queensland in the mid-1920s, his presence there coinciding with a decade-long reign of terror conducted by so-called “Black Hand” gangs to extort money from Italian canegrowers.'

The article goes through 'crime by crime' to the modern day:
'A second wave of Calabrian immigration took place in the 1950s after a catastrophic flood in the town of Platì, a ‘Ndrangheta stronghold. According to Dr Anna Sergi, professor of criminology at the University of Essex and an expert on Italian organised crime, the flood in Calabria delivered an “economic boom” for the ‘Ndrangheta in Australia.'

'In 2007, the ‘Ndrangheta demonstrated its “simple criminal entrepreneurism” by importing 4.4 tonnes of ecstasy tablets into Port Melbourne in a shipment of canned Italian tomatoes. The bust by customs and AFP officers prompted one of the AFP’s biggest ever criminal investigations. Electronic intercepts and surveillance led police to Pasquale Barbaro, the son of Francesco “Little Trees” Barbaro, who had been identified by the Woodward Royal Commission as a money launderer and drug trafficker. Barbaro, the gang’s ringleader and its main contact with ‘Ndrangheta bosses in Calabria, was sentenced to life in jail after pleading guilty. More than 30 gang members were eventually convicted and jailed for a total of nearly 300 years.'

Several alleged ‘Ndrangheta members were among those arrested last year in Operation Ironside, the Australian arm of an international sting designed to catch organised criminals using the AN0M phone encryption app. According to the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission, more than 700 warrants were executed and 311 people charged. More than 6.3 tonnes of illicit drugs and 139 weapons were seized, together with $50 million in suspected proceeds of crime. Those arrested included lawyers, accountants, baggage handlers, cargo controllers and other officials able to help organised criminals in the distribution of drugs and the laundering of profits.

Last month, on the anniversary of the first AN0M arrests, the AFP revealed it was investigating 51 Italian organised crime clans, of which 14 were confirmed as ‘Ndrangheta. According to the AFP’s Assistant Commissioner Crime Command, Nigel Ryan, law enforcement had charged a number of ‘Ndrangheta members, “some of whom were taking their orders from bosses in Calabria”.'

Well worth reading the article behind the paywall.
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Fascinating. I was just being facetious btw no malice intended :)
 
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