Melbourne Gangs

[rdhopkins2]

The Apex gang and many other similar gangs are a blight on Melbourne. Stealing cars, assaults and riotous behaviour. What needs to be done to pull these thugs in to line?

Custodial sentences in juvenile detention or jail? If so, can we ensure they don't have luxuries or play stations to ensure they devote their time to rehabilitation and self improvement.

Getting these bored kids more involved in the community before they commit crime- better educational support, encourage them to join sporting clubs and the like.

Deportation for non citizens convicted of serious offences?

 

[Subutai]

i want to know what games they have in juvi. fifa / nba 2016?

the islander gang looks very imposing

 

[little graham]

What about the gangs in our justice system? Running drugs, hit squads, brothels, bank robberies ,pedophile gangs ect?

 

[Malifice]

From Dandenong.

It was 3174 back in my day.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

What about the gangs in our justice system? Running drugs, hit squads, brothels, bank robberies ,pedophile gangs ect?

Can't you ever stay on topic? If you want to discuss those things maybe you should make a thread about them.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

surprised it took this long for this thread to appear.

 

[Shane Hird]

So are we talking about mainly gangs of African males here?

That footage from the weekend horrified me. I grew up in Melbourne but haven't lived there for 25 years. To see footage of these gangs running around the streets in front of Flinders at station made me sick to my stomach.

What is going on?

I thought we had a problem here in Perth, but it seems mild compared to Whats going on in my old home town.

They all need a good kick up the arse.. As I saw one copper do.

 

[little graham]

Can't you ever stay on topic? If you want to discuss those things maybe you should make a thread about them.

You obviously have something to hide. This is a thread about Melbourne gangs and im talking about the most dangerous and violent of all Melbourne gangs.

Melbourne businessman and gangland criminal lawyer Joseph 'Pino' Acquaro has been shot dead in a targeted attack in the Melbourne suburb of Brunswick East

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-15/body-found-footpath-in-brunswick-east-homicide-squad/7246628

 

[Toump Ass]

I'll get worried about it when these kids start hanging outside of their ghettos more than once every ten years.

 

[Farm Boy]

The Apex gang and many other similar gangs are a blight on Melbourne. Stealing cars, assaults and riotous behaviour. What needs to be done to pull these thugs in to line?

Custodial sentences in juvenile detention or jail? If so, can we ensure they don't have luxuries or play stations to ensure they devote their time to rehabilitation and self improvement.

Getting these bored kids more involved in the community before they commit crime- better educational support, encourage them to join sporting clubs and the like.

Deportation for non citizens convicted of serious offences?

They need to know that if they break the law that there will be consequences. Break the law = lose your freedom. We need to make jail a less comfortable place for these offenders as well. The bottom line is that jail is not a great deterrence for these criminals. A lot of them look forward to going back to jail. I am all for rehabilitation in jail, so long as the broader environment in there isn't cushy. It needs to be uncomfortable, not have foxtel, pay tv, and better facilities than 90% of Australian's have access to.

 

[Present Not Past]

They need jobs. Youth unemployment is a disgrace in this country. And I don't mean office jobs either. A lot of these kids are uneducated with low IQ's. They just need something to do to keep them occupied during the day.

 

[Malifice]

So are we talking about mainly gangs of African males here?

Not exclusively no.

Southern Metro Assistant Police Commissioner Bob Hill said the gang, originally consisting of young men of Sudanese descent, had grown to up to 150 members from a variety of backgrounds and from across Melbourne.

He said the expansion came after Apex merged with another gang, YCW, which comprised young people from Caucasian, Pacific Islander, Maori, Afghan and Indian backgrounds.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/m...-apex-gang-20160314-gnima2.html#ixzz42wYEsuHI
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Back in the day, most low level street gangs were white (PFK, 3174, Dandy boys, Frankston boys etc) and the occasional Vietnamese gang, with the Bikies above them, and the Italian heavy hiters and certain 'elements' of VICPOL calling the shots from up above.

VICPOL has been largely purged of the worst elements, and the Italians have been quiet lately (however I note the recent slaying overnight that tells me something is going on). The Vietnamese elements have died down, and the bikies have been getting targetted heavily as a result, so its not surprsing (particularly having regards to the meth epidemic, new migrant groups being introduced and the recent recession) that street level gangs are starting to flourish again.

 

[Pie eyed]

Sharpies....

 

[The Lemon]

They need to know that if they break the law that there will be consequences. Break the law = lose your freedom. We need to make jail a less comfortable place for these offenders as well. The bottom line is that jail is not a great deterrence for these criminals. A lot of them look forward to going back to jail. I am all for rehabilitation in jail, so long as the broader environment in there isn't cushy. It needs to be uncomfortable, not have foxtel, pay tv, and better facilities than 90% of Australian's have access to.

Compared to the South Sudo death camps, prison is a breeze. Nothing will fix this problem.

They need jobs. Youth unemployment is a disgrace in this country. And I don't mean office jobs either. A lot of these kids are uneducated with low IQ's. They just need something to do to keep them occupied during the day.

Agree. Good luck though...These little campaigners wont work. They'll be on the prison rotation until they are killed.

 

[AM]

What about the gangs in our justice system? Running drugs, hit squads, brothels, bank robberies ,pedophile gangs ect?

Sort of a diversion there lg.

I'm with Andrews, I hope the courts come down hard on them to send a message.

 

[Maggie5]

They need jobs. Youth unemployment is a disgrace in this country. And I don't mean office jobs either. A lot of these kids are uneducated with low IQ's. They just need something to do to keep them occupied during the day.

Agree 25% in some areas and all the low skills jobs in manufacturing have disappeared.
Further goals aren't so much of a deterrent either since privatisation the most they have done is to take away their cigarettes.

 

[Present Not Past]

Agree 25% in some areas and all the low skills jobs in manufacturing have disappeared.
Further goals aren't so much of a deterrent either since privatisation the most they have done is to take away their cigarettes.

I used to think that they were the scum of the earth until I happened to come into contact with some due to helping out in juvenile detention. Then I realised that they are mostly just dumb kids who have failed at everything in life, or never a had a chance at all. Given a chance they could probably still make a life for themselves.

 

[Maggie5]

I used to think that they were the scum of the earth until I happened to come into contact with some due to helping out in juvenile detention. Then I realised that they are mostly just dumb kids who have failed at everything in life, or never a had a chance at all. Given a chance they could probably still make a life for themselves.

Sadly they then mix with the smartarses who make them welcome and then they belong.
Not sure what the answer is but it has to stop as it is not possible to make oneself 100% safe.

 

[Shane Hird]

Sharpies....

Sharpies rule man!

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

So are we talking about mainly gangs of African males here?

That footage from the weekend horrified me. I grew up in Melbourne but haven't lived there for 25 years. To see footage of these gangs running around the streets in front of Flinders at station made me sick to my stomach.

What is going on?

I thought we had a problem here in Perth, but it seems mild compared to Whats going on in my old home town.

They all need a good kick up the arse.. As I saw one copper do.

You'd have required a stomach transplant in the 70s and 80s then. Epic sharpie punch ons in and around Flinders Street. catchin' a red rattler home to the Western Suburbs on a Sat'dee night after the footy was allus frought with danger

 

[Shane Hird]

You'd have required a stomach transplant in the 70s and 80s then. Epic sharpie punch ons in and around Flinders Street. catchin' a red rattler home to the Western Suburbs on a Sat'dee night after the footy was allus frought with danger

Yeah I missed the whole sharpie thing. Born in early 70s and living in outer eastern suburbs I didn't really go into the city by myself or with friends until about 84-85.

I remember being in Scouts in about 1982 and they took us on this trip to St Kilda at about 11 o'clock at night. Can't remember what the hell we were doing there but I remember being quite nervous walking down the footpath with freaks everywhere.

I lived amongst the green leafy surrounds of Mt Dandenong and city life was far far away...

 

[Malifice]

I lived amongst the green leafy surrounds of Mt Dandenong and city life was far far away...

Dandenong had some of the better street gangs back in the 80's. Along with Frankston and Noble Park (honorable mentions to Hastings).

But yeah, not in the rural areas of Dandenong. Odd place - like they forgot to urbanise it. Farms with creeks, ferns and blackberry bushes just down the road from Dandenong central. My Grandparents used to live there, and its my earliest memories of Victoria.

But I digress.

 

[Shane Hird]

Dandenong had some of the better street gangs back in the 80's. Along with Frankston and Noble Park (honorable mentions to Hastings).

But yeah, not in the rural areas of Dandenong. Odd place - like they forgot to urbanise it. Farms with creeks, ferns and blackberry bushes just down the road from Dandenong central. My Grandparents used to live there, and its my earliest memories of Victoria.

But I digress.

I mean Mount Dandenong..Ferntree Gully way. No gangs out there in 70s..well none I saw anyway.

I lived a sheltered childhood

 

[ClokesShankedIt]

Just dish out deportations along the lines of the situation that dusty martin's father finds himself in currently. This isn't a difficult problem to solve.

 

[Subutai]

Just dish out deportations along the lines of the situation that dusty martin's father finds himself in currently. This isn't a difficult problem to solve.

Then the Catholics would start fighting the Protestants again